EPTPerformance Enhancing Drug in Starcraft 2? Yes. - Page 10
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Heraklitus
United States553 Posts
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above
United States71 Posts
On April 06 2011 22:49 Heraklitus wrote: Unless you're going to start drug testing players, this is totally unenforceable and not worth trying to do, whatever you may think of the merits of stuff like this. Well said. | ||
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lunick
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On another topic, I don't see why people want to allow drugs because it leads to better games. I've seen two people this thread already saying it, and there's honestly no good logic behind it. Suppose adderall improves concentration and lets you play better. But doesn't this lower the skill ceiling artificially, similarly to adding auto mining and MBS? Instead of everyone using drugs, why not make the game just a bit easier then? I guess there are more ways to look at this, but for me I'm not sure if it makes a lot of sense. It depends on your actual definition of what are 'good games', maybe, but that's hard to define in a few words, if at all. | ||
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
I do know that in Korea, pharmacy drugs are rather lax compared to the United States. But, I do think that there was some changes now, where they won't allow drugs to be dispensed without a doctor's prescription. Since before pharmacists were allowed to dispense alot of drugs ( most are private pharmacies). | ||
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Scrubington
Canada475 Posts
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Sami`
89 Posts
The important question is whether the substance is legal or not, if it is legal then it should be allowed, if its not then it shouldn't be. | ||
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DruidzHistory
Sweden231 Posts
According to wikipedia | ||
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quiggy
Canada58 Posts
The issue is the availability of these drugs to non-prescription patients. You can't restrict these drugs from people who really need them. What needs to happen is stricter government enforcement on prescription drug abuse. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
It's not like steroids, you don't shoot up before going into a sports game~ | ||
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Svartstol
Sweden171 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On April 06 2011 23:22 vicariouscheese wrote: Even if tournaments were to go about enforcing this, I'm not sure it would even help... couldn't people just piss clean and then take some pills right before matches? It's not like steroids, you don't shoot up before going into a sports game~ Simple solution, test 30 minutes before the match and then immediately after the matches finish... Of course I don't really care, I say just let it be. Obviously the performance increase is not to the point where once you take it you become unstoppable. On April 06 2011 23:36 Svartstol wrote: WOuld you count Ritalin and such as performance enhancers aswell? People who use it for medication in the regular lifes? That's why you can't test for it... People have normal needs for these medications so trying to test everyone at major tournaments would give you people who fail and then get disqualified even though they need it for health reasons. These are not steroids, these are actual medications that benefit people unlike growth hormones that only have a purpose for ones vanity. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
Of course you can't catch everyone who violates such a rule, but that's no reason not to set a clear standard that it's unacceptable. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
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xLethargicax
United States469 Posts
1. I think it's really disrespectful to a player like HuK to blindly insinuate he was on adderral. Think about where he was, 4 hours of sleep, and an hour or so before huge career matches. If I was in his position I would have chugged the fuck out of some coffee. Whether he did anything or not isn't even what I mean to touch on, but the fact someone would blindly, and callously say he was on adderall is so absurd. 2. I do not have personal experience with Adderral, as the drug really scares me, but I have some friends that take it for recreation every now and again. I'm always interested in how a person feels on drugs so I have vicariously explored the drug through them, and I feel like I could say this with authority; I do not believe Adderall would help playing Starcraft at all. EVERY single one of my friends who have taken Adderall while trying to game have told me it's near impossible. They've all told me it's too easy to focus on a game and they feel like they have spare brain power to use so it feels wasteful to play. Generally they write essays while cleaning and shit. That drug is crazy. | ||
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Gobbles
Canada91 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On April 06 2011 23:44 Lysenko wrote: Enforceability is irrelevant. The community should make clear that it's not acceptable to use controlled substances to enhance performance without an MD signing off on the medical necessity. Of course you can't catch everyone who violates such a rule, but that's no reason not to set a clear standard that it's unacceptable. Ok so let us say that the community does say that the frown upon people who use PED's... What then? Since you say that enforcability is not an issue then what is the purpose of the community making it clear that they are against PED use? I've tried adderral for studying purposes and it works wonders, if I wanted to be top tier in SC2 I would definitely take it before tournaments and such, a community frowning upon its use would not make me change that... and how would they find out anyway if nobody is enforcing it? | ||
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