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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 31 2011 21:28 GMT
#41
Lots of misconceptions here. Your voice doesn't change this much from smoking.

If you have experience with the entertainment industry, you know that this is commonplace damage caused by doing a show while having a sore throat for extended periods of time and not resting. It would be unthinkable for an opera singer to perform with any sort of throat infection due to the (subtle) impact it could/would have on pitch. "Lesser" singers can afford to do gigs with infections since they're able to rest their voice later and recuperate but Nick has been casting every day for extended periods of time with colds, never allowing his [vocal] system to recover.

Obviously, if you combine this with an active nightlife where you shout at the top of your lunges to make yourself heard in a club with loud music, you've got a recipe for a "smokey" voice. Smoking itself doesn't help of course but it's hardly the main cause of the changes.

I think both his tones are great for casting and he's completely done away with his slight lisp. He really was the ultimate shoutcaster and could be once more if he decided to follow the development of code S level builds a bit closer (although i hardly blame him for not doing so given the fickle nature of SC2, the constant patches and the apparent success of simply brute forcing in so many cases).

<3 Tasteless.
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
March 31 2011 21:30 GMT
#42
Taslesless smokes over 500 cigarettes a day and brushes his teeth with whisky.
God is dead.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
March 31 2011 21:30 GMT
#43
I've been smoking for a couple years and there are days where my voice does get a little raspy. I would assume tasteless smokes a decent amount because he does cough a lot during casts.
blah blah blah...
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
March 31 2011 21:31 GMT
#44
Uhh, people.

Tasteless said while casting the GSL that it's not smoking, it's the talking. "I don't smoke that much."

Please stop purporting it as a fact. You need to smoke for decades to cause that.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
March 31 2011 21:33 GMT
#45
And lets get one thing straight here guys. His voice is much, much better for casting now.
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leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
March 31 2011 21:34 GMT
#46
He said it was because he has done so many commentary since wcg 05 so its changed his voice.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
March 31 2011 21:34 GMT
#47
I believe he's also mentioned that he got some coaching from professional broadcasters about changing your voice slightly to decrease the strain, so that could be another factor.

Also, most peoples' voices still change until they're like 30ish- just nowhere near as quickly as through puberty- and then again later in life due (although pretty sure that one is just due to muscle deterioration)
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 21:40:05
March 31 2011 21:38 GMT
#48
On April 01 2011 06:24 btx0 wrote:
http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/vod/257 (skip to minute 3).

Its like this video has the exact moment of his voice change. It changes at about 3 min.
Although in the beginning its already quite different from the voice in the OP.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 31 2011 21:42 GMT
#49
In some bits of the WCG 2005 footage, Tasteless sounds like the way he does now, especially at the part where he says that he's going to talk to the guy about going to Singapore to cast the grand finals. Maybe he just got done doing some casting and it strained his voice?
bwally
Profile Joined December 2010
United States670 Posts
March 31 2011 21:42 GMT
#50
On April 01 2011 06:34 leungwk01 wrote:
He said it was because he has done so many commentary since wcg 05 so its changed his voice.


It seems to change during 2008 to what it basically is now so I doubt anything before that matters.
sc2olorin
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
March 31 2011 21:46 GMT
#51
On April 01 2011 06:28 Thrill wrote:
Lots of misconceptions here. Your voice doesn't change this much from smoking.

If you have experience with the entertainment industry, you know that this is commonplace damage caused by doing a show while having a sore throat for extended periods of time and not resting. It would be unthinkable for an opera singer to perform with any sort of throat infection due to the (subtle) impact it could/would have on pitch. "Lesser" singers can afford to do gigs with infections since they're able to rest their voice later and recuperate but Nick has been casting every day for extended periods of time with colds, never allowing his [vocal] system to recover.

Obviously, if you combine this with an active nightlife where you shout at the top of your lunges to make yourself heard in a club with loud music, you've got a recipe for a "smokey" voice. Smoking itself doesn't help of course but it's hardly the main cause of the changes.


So do you know whether the damage to his voice/throat would be permanent? Or would it be able to recover given an extended resting period? Just wondering.
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
March 31 2011 21:47 GMT
#52
On April 01 2011 06:46 sc2olorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 06:28 Thrill wrote:
Lots of misconceptions here. Your voice doesn't change this much from smoking.

If you have experience with the entertainment industry, you know that this is commonplace damage caused by doing a show while having a sore throat for extended periods of time and not resting. It would be unthinkable for an opera singer to perform with any sort of throat infection due to the (subtle) impact it could/would have on pitch. "Lesser" singers can afford to do gigs with infections since they're able to rest their voice later and recuperate but Nick has been casting every day for extended periods of time with colds, never allowing his [vocal] system to recover.

Obviously, if you combine this with an active nightlife where you shout at the top of your lunges to make yourself heard in a club with loud music, you've got a recipe for a "smokey" voice. Smoking itself doesn't help of course but it's hardly the main cause of the changes.


So do you know whether the damage to his voice/throat would be permanent? Or would it be able to recover given an extended resting period? Just wondering.


Voices are complicated; overuse can often cause permenant damage. I suspect he'll never sound like he once did, even with a great deal of rest.
RedusK
Profile Joined December 2010
United States37 Posts
March 31 2011 21:47 GMT
#53
On April 01 2011 06:24 btx0 wrote:
What happened between Aug 10, 2008 and Sep 21, 2008?
Check out http://www.gomtv.net/classic/vod/249 (skip to minute 6) and http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/vod/257 (skip to minute 3).


This nails it. No way smoking or aging or partying or anything explains that big a difference over just 1 month and 11 days. He just started making a conscious effort to deepen his voice because it sounds more attractive to people. Simple as that.
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 31 2011 21:50 GMT
#54
Well a lot of casting does take a toll on the voice
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Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
March 31 2011 21:52 GMT
#55
Although I found his current voice a bit 'americanesque' over the top at first, I actually really like his voice now. He has a lot of power in it, which really comes to use when casting epic matches.

Much of voice development is practise. I don't think smoking or drinking has made that much of a difference... I'd say it's practise indeed.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 31 2011 21:56 GMT
#56
I think it's a combination of regular smoking and the good ol' voicebox being stressed out. I hope quitting is on his mind for his own sake.
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dlax
Profile Joined June 2010
United States37 Posts
March 31 2011 21:56 GMT
#57
Wow... smoking..... uh no. This is not the result of smoking and ppl posting that as an explanation are just making themselves look foolish. Talk a lot and uh it wears on your vocal chords. Tons of casting=raspy voice.... not smoking.
"It is what it is."
Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 22:09:59
March 31 2011 22:09 GMT
#58
On April 01 2011 06:05 SecretA5DC wrote:
Smoking.


cock?

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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 22:13:35
March 31 2011 22:12 GMT
#59
Smoking shouldn't affect it that much, at least not from what I have seen. He kind of reminds me of death metal singers who didn't quite have the right technique at first, gets the throat quite a bit. I imagine casting could have the same effect, especially during prolonged periods.

Here's a pretty exaggerated example.

Obviously much, much worse but you can hear the similarities.
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
March 31 2011 22:15 GMT
#60
tasteless always tweets about drugs and smokin -_- its so obvious he overdoes it
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