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Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
March 31 2011 21:04 GMT
#1
Could anyone tell me what happened to Tasteless' voice? I only know him from the GSL and always thought he had a really strange voice (not in a bad way). Then I saw this:



How did that happen?
SecretA5DC
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)225 Posts
March 31 2011 21:05 GMT
#2
Smoking.
Durn
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada360 Posts
March 31 2011 21:05 GMT
#3
Yeah, he's been an avid smoker for like 4~ years now.
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TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
March 31 2011 21:06 GMT
#4
I like his new voice better tbh
stephls
Profile Joined December 2010
United States241 Posts
March 31 2011 21:06 GMT
#5
Puberty?
I think you voice might just get deeper with age..
Or maybe he purposely has a "TV voice"
djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
March 31 2011 21:06 GMT
#6
Probably happens when your full time job is to talk/shout relatively loudly for several hours a day.
TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
March 31 2011 21:07 GMT
#7
smoking + commentating + aging ( a combination of it in no particular order )
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CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
March 31 2011 21:07 GMT
#8
Sounds so much younger with this voice. I kind of like this one.
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
March 31 2011 21:07 GMT
#9
Yea, despite the smoking and its many downfalls. It makes tasteless even more of a badass to listen too.
Dwell
dogmeatstew
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada574 Posts
March 31 2011 21:07 GMT
#10
Oh god the nostalgia...

and smoking indeed.
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
March 31 2011 21:09 GMT
#11
On April 01 2011 06:06 stephls wrote:
Puberty?
Haha!

Also, Im not sure if the smoking had that big effect on his voice.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
March 31 2011 21:09 GMT
#12


Is this video only 1 year later than the one OP posted? His voice really changed quite a lot in just one year if so.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
March 31 2011 21:09 GMT
#13
-_- Come on.
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Hellie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden94 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 21:10:30
March 31 2011 21:09 GMT
#14
Sadly, the above statements are true. While I love his current raspy, manly "day after" voice, it's not as smooth and clean to listen to as his old BW-persona had.
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ICA
Profile Joined January 2011
498 Posts
March 31 2011 21:10 GMT
#15
Nick Tasteless Plott, your commentary's getting me so hot.
Sounds like smoking for sure, don't believe this is due to puberty.
Keep it going dude.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 31 2011 21:11 GMT
#16
Back when I was a teen, my voice got kinda raspy as well. I guess this is the time where Tasteless' body is undergoing changes to become a man.
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
March 31 2011 21:12 GMT
#17
I know many people whove been smoking for 5+ years and your voice doesnt just change that drastically. It's more likely that the change in his voice is a result of growing up rather than smoking.
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CyberPitz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States428 Posts
March 31 2011 21:13 GMT
#18
This is not smoking....this is the same thing that happens to singers in a band when they have to scream/talk very loudly for hours and hours a day.
DocHolliday
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom51 Posts
March 31 2011 21:15 GMT
#19
Does everyone that says its because (or partly because) of smoking even know if this is true? or are these just assumptions?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
March 31 2011 21:17 GMT
#20
On April 01 2011 06:15 DocHolliday wrote:
Does everyone that says its because (or partly because) of smoking even know if this is true? or are these just assumptions?

It's widely known among... well, anyone who's been here for a while.
:)
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
March 31 2011 21:17 GMT
#21
On April 01 2011 06:15 DocHolliday wrote:
Does everyone that says its because (or partly because) of smoking even know if this is true? or are these just assumptions?


He does smoke, if that's what your asking. I don't know how anyone could know for a fact why his voice is different unless they were his doctor or something, though.
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
March 31 2011 21:17 GMT
#22
Does anyone know if he's still smoking?
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Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
March 31 2011 21:17 GMT
#23
He mentioned in a GSL game not too long ago that people think its the smoking but its because he is a caster, and that changed his voice over time.
Hadron.
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway104 Posts
March 31 2011 21:18 GMT
#24
It's because he's smokingly handsome. Such levels of handsomeness has its strain on a body, even his.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 31 2011 21:18 GMT
#25
He should ask Artosis if he could massage his vocal cord. Not sure how it would be done but god darn it it have to be possible!
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 21:19:55
March 31 2011 21:19 GMT
#26
During a GSL cast, Tasteless said it wasn't from smoking, but that it was from casting so much
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
March 31 2011 21:19 GMT
#27
On April 01 2011 06:06 stephls wrote:
Puberty?
I think you voice might just get deeper with age..
Or maybe he purposely has a "TV voice"

no he is an avid smoker.
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
March 31 2011 21:20 GMT
#28
He denied that it was smoking that changed his voice on the basis that he really doesn't smoke that much (paraphrasing here).

Alternative theory: lots and lots of partying
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 31 2011 21:20 GMT
#29
Smoking =P
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Theo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States151 Posts
March 31 2011 21:21 GMT
#30
It has to be from casting. I know multiple smokers who have been smoking for much longer than him and have no change to their voice. The guy was SOLO casting for extremely long hours for Gom. Takes a toll on your voice. I like his current voice, makes him a gnarly bad ass. His old voice is more boyish.
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Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
March 31 2011 21:21 GMT
#31
shouting too much during gotmv casts? smoking/partying/aging, but it's still quite a change.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
March 31 2011 21:21 GMT
#32
Two things. Holy crap he was young in that one. Second I wish he still had that voice. I like it SOOO much better than his current smokers voice. Only started watching GSL a lot this past months GSL season so I only knew him as the smoker voice up till now and seeing the you tube vid. Sad that smoking can destroy so much.
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 31 2011 21:22 GMT
#33
<3 the GSI, my first starcraft tournament!

Thanks for going and being our English SC caster, Nick!

I've watched him cast over the years and never noticed the difference, but going back now it's almost unrecognisable lol
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
March 31 2011 21:23 GMT
#34
From experience casting really wears out your voice though. After a series you'd feel quite terrible
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Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
March 31 2011 21:24 GMT
#35
Uh guys. Smoking doesn't change your voice in the course of a couple years. He's gotten that voice mainly from doing avid casting, a little bit from growing up, and the smallest portion is from smoking.
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btx0
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany184 Posts
March 31 2011 21:24 GMT
#36
What happened between Aug 10, 2008 and Sep 21, 2008?
Check out http://www.gomtv.net/classic/vod/249 (skip to minute 6) and http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/vod/257 (skip to minute 3).
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 21:27:35
March 31 2011 21:26 GMT
#37
damn BW Tasteless is a whole lot better than SC2 Tasteless and I'm not talking about his voice

his knowledge and passion just seems to come through a whole lot more while watching him talk about BW players
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Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
March 31 2011 21:26 GMT
#38
I'd say it's a combination of all of the above (casting, smoking, aging, maybe other factors). Tasteless is the only caster I have ever seen that has this problem. Day 9 casts quite a bit as well and he seems to be fine, Artosis casts a lot and he is fine. Sports casters who have been doing it for decades are fine as well so i'm sure that isn't it.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 31 2011 21:28 GMT
#39
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AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 21:29:22
March 31 2011 21:28 GMT
#40
yea it is just an over worked voice in my honest opinion if you lose your voice to many times, you can end up doing permanent damage
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
March 31 2011 21:28 GMT
#41
Lots of misconceptions here. Your voice doesn't change this much from smoking.

If you have experience with the entertainment industry, you know that this is commonplace damage caused by doing a show while having a sore throat for extended periods of time and not resting. It would be unthinkable for an opera singer to perform with any sort of throat infection due to the (subtle) impact it could/would have on pitch. "Lesser" singers can afford to do gigs with infections since they're able to rest their voice later and recuperate but Nick has been casting every day for extended periods of time with colds, never allowing his [vocal] system to recover.

Obviously, if you combine this with an active nightlife where you shout at the top of your lunges to make yourself heard in a club with loud music, you've got a recipe for a "smokey" voice. Smoking itself doesn't help of course but it's hardly the main cause of the changes.

I think both his tones are great for casting and he's completely done away with his slight lisp. He really was the ultimate shoutcaster and could be once more if he decided to follow the development of code S level builds a bit closer (although i hardly blame him for not doing so given the fickle nature of SC2, the constant patches and the apparent success of simply brute forcing in so many cases).

<3 Tasteless.
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
March 31 2011 21:30 GMT
#42
Taslesless smokes over 500 cigarettes a day and brushes his teeth with whisky.
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slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
March 31 2011 21:30 GMT
#43
I've been smoking for a couple years and there are days where my voice does get a little raspy. I would assume tasteless smokes a decent amount because he does cough a lot during casts.
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
March 31 2011 21:31 GMT
#44
Uhh, people.

Tasteless said while casting the GSL that it's not smoking, it's the talking. "I don't smoke that much."

Please stop purporting it as a fact. You need to smoke for decades to cause that.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
March 31 2011 21:33 GMT
#45
And lets get one thing straight here guys. His voice is much, much better for casting now.
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leungwk01
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1260 Posts
March 31 2011 21:34 GMT
#46
He said it was because he has done so many commentary since wcg 05 so its changed his voice.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
March 31 2011 21:34 GMT
#47
I believe he's also mentioned that he got some coaching from professional broadcasters about changing your voice slightly to decrease the strain, so that could be another factor.

Also, most peoples' voices still change until they're like 30ish- just nowhere near as quickly as through puberty- and then again later in life due (although pretty sure that one is just due to muscle deterioration)
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 21:40:05
March 31 2011 21:38 GMT
#48
On April 01 2011 06:24 btx0 wrote:
http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/vod/257 (skip to minute 3).

Its like this video has the exact moment of his voice change. It changes at about 3 min.
Although in the beginning its already quite different from the voice in the OP.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 31 2011 21:42 GMT
#49
In some bits of the WCG 2005 footage, Tasteless sounds like the way he does now, especially at the part where he says that he's going to talk to the guy about going to Singapore to cast the grand finals. Maybe he just got done doing some casting and it strained his voice?
bwally
Profile Joined December 2010
United States670 Posts
March 31 2011 21:42 GMT
#50
On April 01 2011 06:34 leungwk01 wrote:
He said it was because he has done so many commentary since wcg 05 so its changed his voice.


It seems to change during 2008 to what it basically is now so I doubt anything before that matters.
sc2olorin
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
March 31 2011 21:46 GMT
#51
On April 01 2011 06:28 Thrill wrote:
Lots of misconceptions here. Your voice doesn't change this much from smoking.

If you have experience with the entertainment industry, you know that this is commonplace damage caused by doing a show while having a sore throat for extended periods of time and not resting. It would be unthinkable for an opera singer to perform with any sort of throat infection due to the (subtle) impact it could/would have on pitch. "Lesser" singers can afford to do gigs with infections since they're able to rest their voice later and recuperate but Nick has been casting every day for extended periods of time with colds, never allowing his [vocal] system to recover.

Obviously, if you combine this with an active nightlife where you shout at the top of your lunges to make yourself heard in a club with loud music, you've got a recipe for a "smokey" voice. Smoking itself doesn't help of course but it's hardly the main cause of the changes.


So do you know whether the damage to his voice/throat would be permanent? Or would it be able to recover given an extended resting period? Just wondering.
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
March 31 2011 21:47 GMT
#52
On April 01 2011 06:46 sc2olorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 06:28 Thrill wrote:
Lots of misconceptions here. Your voice doesn't change this much from smoking.

If you have experience with the entertainment industry, you know that this is commonplace damage caused by doing a show while having a sore throat for extended periods of time and not resting. It would be unthinkable for an opera singer to perform with any sort of throat infection due to the (subtle) impact it could/would have on pitch. "Lesser" singers can afford to do gigs with infections since they're able to rest their voice later and recuperate but Nick has been casting every day for extended periods of time with colds, never allowing his [vocal] system to recover.

Obviously, if you combine this with an active nightlife where you shout at the top of your lunges to make yourself heard in a club with loud music, you've got a recipe for a "smokey" voice. Smoking itself doesn't help of course but it's hardly the main cause of the changes.


So do you know whether the damage to his voice/throat would be permanent? Or would it be able to recover given an extended resting period? Just wondering.


Voices are complicated; overuse can often cause permenant damage. I suspect he'll never sound like he once did, even with a great deal of rest.
RedusK
Profile Joined December 2010
United States37 Posts
March 31 2011 21:47 GMT
#53
On April 01 2011 06:24 btx0 wrote:
What happened between Aug 10, 2008 and Sep 21, 2008?
Check out http://www.gomtv.net/classic/vod/249 (skip to minute 6) and http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/vod/257 (skip to minute 3).


This nails it. No way smoking or aging or partying or anything explains that big a difference over just 1 month and 11 days. He just started making a conscious effort to deepen his voice because it sounds more attractive to people. Simple as that.
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 31 2011 21:50 GMT
#54
Well a lot of casting does take a toll on the voice
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Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
March 31 2011 21:52 GMT
#55
Although I found his current voice a bit 'americanesque' over the top at first, I actually really like his voice now. He has a lot of power in it, which really comes to use when casting epic matches.

Much of voice development is practise. I don't think smoking or drinking has made that much of a difference... I'd say it's practise indeed.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 31 2011 21:56 GMT
#56
I think it's a combination of regular smoking and the good ol' voicebox being stressed out. I hope quitting is on his mind for his own sake.
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dlax
Profile Joined June 2010
United States37 Posts
March 31 2011 21:56 GMT
#57
Wow... smoking..... uh no. This is not the result of smoking and ppl posting that as an explanation are just making themselves look foolish. Talk a lot and uh it wears on your vocal chords. Tons of casting=raspy voice.... not smoking.
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Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 22:09:59
March 31 2011 22:09 GMT
#58
On April 01 2011 06:05 SecretA5DC wrote:
Smoking.


cock?

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vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 22:13:35
March 31 2011 22:12 GMT
#59
Smoking shouldn't affect it that much, at least not from what I have seen. He kind of reminds me of death metal singers who didn't quite have the right technique at first, gets the throat quite a bit. I imagine casting could have the same effect, especially during prolonged periods.

Here's a pretty exaggerated example.

Obviously much, much worse but you can hear the similarities.
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
March 31 2011 22:15 GMT
#60
tasteless always tweets about drugs and smokin -_- its so obvious he overdoes it
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
March 31 2011 22:18 GMT
#61
well part of it too is having to do commentating does take it's toll on your voice. If you watched any of his live casting during the original GOM tournaments, by the end of some nights, he'd literally have no voice, and force out a very raspy voice and you could see him straining in pain as he'd do it because he can't just have a whispered commentary.

I think that more than the smoking or the aging or whatever that made his voice this way, but hey as long as he's comfortable with it, tasteless is tasteless, raspy voice or not!
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 31 2011 22:18 GMT
#62
On April 01 2011 07:09 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 06:05 SecretA5DC wrote:
Smoking.


cock?

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IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
March 31 2011 22:20 GMT
#63
Wow his voice sounded a lot different back then. Still think I like how he sounds now but maybe that's because I never got to hear him commentate on any games back then.
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BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
March 31 2011 22:20 GMT
#64
Well since he does a lot of talking due to casting and he's done it for so many years, the only logical and medical explanation is that his throat/vocal muscles are so buff and in shape, that it increases the badass-ness (or badassity if you live in the UK) of the sound of his voice.
R A V
Profile Joined November 2009
United States217 Posts
March 31 2011 22:22 GMT
#65
Wow I had forgotten how different he used to sound :O
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 31 2011 22:24 GMT
#66
WOAH thats a pretty crazy difference.. I remember listening to him back then but since ive been a listener to him since GomTV's first events, I didnt notice how much his voice has changed..

Maybe I should start smoking.. i hate my voice, might make it more manly lol
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Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
March 31 2011 22:25 GMT
#67
I like his old voice waaaay more for talking, but I can't decide which would be better for casting, as I just started watching him cast in GSL Jan
Motion
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany183 Posts
March 31 2011 22:26 GMT
#68
Too much rock and roll baby, tasteless has an tattoo. What did you expect, wearing child voice for ever ?
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hidiliho
Profile Joined September 2004
Canada685 Posts
March 31 2011 22:28 GMT
#69
On April 01 2011 06:17 Vod.kaholic wrote:
Does anyone know if he's still smoking?


Who knows. Hopefully he doesn't become Voiceless.
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Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
March 31 2011 22:30 GMT
#70
im 90% sure that its less related to smoking and more related to him having casted so many games
Ncage
Profile Joined October 2009
United States91 Posts
March 31 2011 22:36 GMT
#71
The male voice doesn't finish developing until the age 25, sometimes later depending on the depth of the person's voice (the lower the voice usually the longer it takes to mature). So that's a huge factor.

On top of that though, if your job is shoutcasting for numerous hours every day, it is going to affect your voice unless you have a near obsessive mentality to attempt to keep it pristine. Drinking, smoking (I don't actually know if Nick smokes but everyone seems to think he does), and yelling are only going to further affect speaking range and quality.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
March 31 2011 22:41 GMT
#72
Proof that Tasteless smokes: http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/vod/1262
Notice the smoke during the first minutes of the cast.
CoFran
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada342 Posts
March 31 2011 22:41 GMT
#73
video in OP sounds and looks like clark kent
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
March 31 2011 22:42 GMT
#74
On April 01 2011 07:18 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 07:09 Roxy wrote:
On April 01 2011 06:05 SecretA5DC wrote:
Smoking.


cock?

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You're an idiot.

lol, he probably couldn't figure out how to make it red.

it's even funnier because the mods gave him a temp for it, with the real mod font:
On April 01 2011 07:09 Roxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 06:05 SecretA5DC wrote:
Smoking.


cock?

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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
March 31 2011 22:44 GMT
#75
On April 01 2011 07:28 hidiliho wrote:
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On April 01 2011 06:17 Vod.kaholic wrote:
Does anyone know if he's still smoking?


Who knows. Hopefully he doesn't become Voiceless.


During one of his casts THIS season, he talked about the small coke cans and how perfect they were, gave some commentary about obesity in america and excessively large drinks, and mentioned that he smokes regularly but he feels he's healthier than a 400 lb man. He then spent a day defending his smoking habits on twitter.
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PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
March 31 2011 22:47 GMT
#76
He sounds much more intelligent with his old voice.
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
March 31 2011 22:49 GMT
#77
if he hasnt yet he should definitely get voice preserving lessons.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
March 31 2011 22:49 GMT
#78
Seriously, I remember first hearing him on Intel-Avatec and compared to now, it sounds like he went through a second puberty.
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
March 31 2011 22:49 GMT
#79
i i smoked and my voice didn't change, it's more liekly from talking so much and maybe drinking/vomitting/etc =]
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 31 2011 23:00 GMT
#80
ever heard Kurt Cobain sing?
he strained a vocal chord...
that, or lilsusie is a vocal-chord-succubus

I'll let you decide.
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entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 23:34:17
March 31 2011 23:03 GMT
#81
hmm let's see, he's a smoker who defends his smoking habits and claims it's not affecting his body or health. gee, sounds like the vast majority of smokers out there.

the "talking too much from casting, not from smoking" excuse that tasteless gave last month is BS and nothing but an excuse from a smoker who's in heavy denial (like most smokers are).

consider the following:

1) Tasteless took a very, very long break between BW casting and SC2 casting. yet the first thing people noticed on Day 1 of GSL Open Season 1 was how shitty his voice had become. he had been unemployed and not actively casting for months and months, so surely his voice would have had the proper rest. instead it got worse. i wonder what could possibly have caused it?

2) Pull up a VOD of that GSL Day 1 cast (back on September 4th). Compare it to a recent VOD. has his voice gotten worse in those 7 months of active casting? no. voice degradation from too much talking is clearly not the issue. of course talking that much can't help, but it's clearly not the primary factor at work here.
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
March 31 2011 23:05 GMT
#82
The difference between my voice now, and 5 years ago when I was 20 is quite different. I don't smoke or commentate period, but it is definatly groggier and raspier. It comes with age, I'm sure the smoking contributes a bit, but it's mostly age.
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Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
March 31 2011 23:10 GMT
#83
I think tasteless should grow a scruffy beard and let his hair grow out while lowering the tone of his voice and start acting like the Manliest Man in the World from the XX commercials.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 23:13:42
March 31 2011 23:11 GMT
#84
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...
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rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 31 2011 23:15 GMT
#85
new voice is sexier
HunterStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
March 31 2011 23:16 GMT
#86
With or without smoking, I think he has a fine voice for casting and overall he's simply a great caster. Maybe not as knowledgeable as other SC2 commentators but a top notch entertainer nonetheless. I hope to meet him soon!
abominable
Profile Joined March 2011
101 Posts
March 31 2011 23:17 GMT
#87
someone answered already...

he had an extreme cold/cough and carried on casting for weeks, as a result he's never recovered from the croaky sound.

i think a few weeks rest might give him some improvement, but it sounds very much like a combination of a bad cough and the casting that's caused damage to his vocal chords.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
March 31 2011 23:17 GMT
#88
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

Flash wasn't anywhere near as dominant as he is now. He was a decent player infamous for his cheesy wins vs Bisu, but no one would've though he was Bonjwa material. Meanwhile Anytime was pretty much a beast. Seems very reasonable.
Gov
Profile Joined November 2010
United States121 Posts
March 31 2011 23:24 GMT
#89
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

You are assuming that he had the information he would have today back when he made those predictions, I'm sorry but time doesn't work like that
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ReacH.
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland333 Posts
March 31 2011 23:24 GMT
#90
Wow, he used to sound so much like Sean, I never realised quite how much all the shoutcasting has affected his voice
PowerKock
Profile Joined March 2011
46 Posts
March 31 2011 23:29 GMT
#91
Anabolic Steroids made my voice sound way powerfull!. No jokes..... Hair grew where I never knew hair could grow. my voice now sounds like macho man randy savages. OHHH YEAHH!

No jokes. I do use steroids. and voice change is a side effect.
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
March 31 2011 23:31 GMT
#92
Seriously a thread to discuss Tasteless' voice? I think it sounds better now anyway.
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RoarMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada745 Posts
March 31 2011 23:35 GMT
#93
I.. don't... understand..
All the pros got dat Ichie.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 23:42:32
March 31 2011 23:40 GMT
#94
its a widely known assumption

edit: his voice is sexier now. Noone likes high pitched male vocals. BE A MAN
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 31 2011 23:46 GMT
#95
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...


uploaded by MickeyToss on Mar 13, 2008
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Tingles
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia225 Posts
March 31 2011 23:49 GMT
#96
Ahh i don't think you can smoke even 2 packs a day for a year and have your voice alter that much ... smoking is awful but it doesn't' have such a fast effect.
I smoked a pack a day for 2 years and continued half a day after that for 1.5 more and my voice didn't change any more than it would just by general growth.
It's probably a combination of smoking / casting / being the most bad ass mother fucker ever.
byce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States98 Posts
March 31 2011 23:50 GMT
#97
On April 01 2011 06:17 synapse wrote:
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On April 01 2011 06:15 DocHolliday wrote:
Does everyone that says its because (or partly because) of smoking even know if this is true? or are these just assumptions?

It's widely known among... well, anyone who's been here for a while.

3000+ posts means you're always right!

... Smoking and drinking just doesn't destroy your voice like that in such a short period of time, even if you're smoking two packs a day. Every day, you watch him talk nonstop for 2-5 hours and you wonder why his voice is shot? He seems like the kind of person that's pretty talkative in life outside of work, too. Some people are implying that he has a lot of partying in his past, and that just doesn't even matter: it wouldn't do this to your voice. It's from casting.
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
March 31 2011 23:52 GMT
#98
It's just from commentating so much. He's been a commentator for ever and he talked nearly all day and pretty loudly too. He's said on the stream it's the commentating.
EpicQQ
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada154 Posts
March 31 2011 23:54 GMT
#99
His current voice sounds like Seth Rogen, so I can't complain. :3
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pookychoo
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
March 31 2011 23:56 GMT
#100
So I guess the gig is up on Tasteless' secret deepthroating obsession.... + Show Spoiler +
lol, jk I love tasteless and he is a totally legit baller for reals
Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
March 31 2011 23:58 GMT
#101
On April 01 2011 08:03 entlassen wrote:
hmm let's see, he's a smoker who defends his smoking habits and claims it's not affecting his body or health. gee, sounds like the vast majority of smokers out there.

the "talking too much from casting, not from smoking" excuse that tasteless gave last month is BS and nothing but an excuse from a smoker who's in heavy denial (like most smokers are).

consider the following:

1) Tasteless took a very, very long break between BW casting and SC2 casting. yet the first thing people noticed on Day 1 of GSL Open Season 1 was how shitty his voice had become. he had been unemployed and not actively casting for months and months, so surely his voice would have had the proper rest. instead it got worse. i wonder what could possibly have caused it?

2) Pull up a VOD of that GSL Day 1 cast (back on September 4th). Compare it to a recent VOD. has his voice gotten worse in those 7 months of active casting? no. voice degradation from too much talking is clearly not the issue. of course talking that much can't help, but it's clearly not the primary factor at work here.

What you haven't consider is that he also did allot of voice over work in Korea besides casting starcraft and I assume that what his job was between his BW casting and SC2 casting.
snapski
Profile Joined January 2011
Croatia70 Posts
April 01 2011 00:01 GMT
#102
Smoking weed or cig? :0
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CodECleaR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States395 Posts
April 01 2011 00:02 GMT
#103
On April 01 2011 09:01 snapski wrote:
Smoking weed or cig? :0


I'm curious.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
April 01 2011 00:03 GMT
#104
Voices traveling from Korea to anywhere else in the world through the internet get distorted a bit. It's called the KR-phenomenon. No one knows why, there are some theories about the Earth's magnetic field affecting the signal but I don't buy it.
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leser
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia239 Posts
April 01 2011 00:03 GMT
#105
smoking for 4 years would change his voice much less than full time casting for 4 years.
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MavercK
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2181 Posts
April 01 2011 00:05 GMT
#106
he said on gom live he doesn't smoke. his voice is just a result of casting for aslong as he has.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 00:07:45
April 01 2011 00:06 GMT
#107
It comes from having to talk (loudly) so much for his job. My uncle has the same type of voice. He's an auctioneer who sounds quite similar to Tasteless. Your vocal chords can only handle so much before something gives. My uncle's vocal chords got so swollen that he was forced to have surgery done, and take over a month off with minimal talking to let them rest so he wouldn't cause even worse damage to his voice.

Also, look at Rachael Ray(I know she's terrible but it's an example), she was known for practically yelling on her show and she ended up having to have surgery and taking vocal lessons to help with the damage caused.

It's part of any profession where you have to talk like that.
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Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
April 01 2011 00:18 GMT
#108
Does anyone else think Tasteless sounds a lot like Frank Zappa now? If you've heard Zappa's non-singing voice it's pretty crazy how similar they are, right down to the way they pronounce certain words. I think it's awesome personally.
RedMosquito
Profile Joined September 2010
United States280 Posts
April 01 2011 00:24 GMT
#109
This may be a long shot but i know some people whose voice changed after getting their tonsils removed. I dont know but I really doubt its smoking because ive been smoking for several years now and my voice sounds largely the same. Unless he smokes like packs a day i dont think his voice could change that much.
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 00:32:17
April 01 2011 00:24 GMT
#110
On April 01 2011 08:58 Zerum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:03 entlassen wrote:
hmm let's see, he's a smoker who defends his smoking habits and claims it's not affecting his body or health. gee, sounds like the vast majority of smokers out there.

the "talking too much from casting, not from smoking" excuse that tasteless gave last month is BS and nothing but an excuse from a smoker who's in heavy denial (like most smokers are).

consider the following:

1) Tasteless took a very, very long break between BW casting and SC2 casting. yet the first thing people noticed on Day 1 of GSL Open Season 1 was how shitty his voice had become. he had been unemployed and not actively casting for months and months, so surely his voice would have had the proper rest. instead it got worse. i wonder what could possibly have caused it?

2) Pull up a VOD of that GSL Day 1 cast (back on September 4th). Compare it to a recent VOD. has his voice gotten worse in those 7 months of active casting? no. voice degradation from too much talking is clearly not the issue. of course talking that much can't help, but it's clearly not the primary factor at work here.

What you haven't consider is that he also did allot of voice over work in Korea besides casting starcraft and I assume that what his job was between his BW casting and SC2 casting.


key word being assume. unfortunately your assumption is wrong.

if you followed his twitter or saw any of the interview videos of him artosis put up on scforall in the period between when gom classic got axed (september 2009; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101934 ) and gsl (september 2010), you would know that he was literally unemployed doing nothing. when the sc2 beta came out in spring, that's all he did, and he said so as much on his twitter & interviews. well, i guess you could count peddling his t-shirt website as being self-employed, but that hardly entails any voice work.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
April 01 2011 12:15 GMT
#111
On April 01 2011 08:24 Gov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

You are assuming that he had the information he would have today back when he made those predictions, I'm sorry but time doesn't work like that


On April 01 2011 08:17 teamsolid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

Flash wasn't anywhere near as dominant as he is now. He was a decent player infamous for his cheesy wins vs Bisu, but no one would've though he was Bonjwa material. Meanwhile Anytime was pretty much a beast. Seems very reasonable.


On April 01 2011 08:46 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...


uploaded by MickeyToss on Mar 13, 2008


As far as I know this was in 2008. At that time Anytime was nowhere near being a favorite against either Flash OR Mind. Anytime was still "ok" but he had his prime in 2006 iirc. Furthermore 2008 was the year of sAviOr's slump. He was not the favorite in this group, and I'm saying that as a huge sAviOr fan.

Boxer in 2008, as much as I respect him for what he's done for the scene, was just plain bad in comparison to his competition. NaDa was a little better, but he too was boasting a 42% win rate in 2008, not what you would call "group of death" material. While Much certainly had his moments, he was never really good over an extended period of time. Apart from that his PvZ was always pretty terrible and he had Jaedong in his grp...

So, defend him as much as you like I guess, but I think I'll stick to my humble opinion that his analysis of those groups was wrong.
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ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
April 01 2011 12:18 GMT
#112
its probably a combination of things really

smoking + casting so much for years + age + not enough tea
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
April 01 2011 12:18 GMT
#113
Regardless of the cause, he should see a speech therapist and get advice.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 01 2011 12:41 GMT
#114
I'm really curious what Tasteless drunk Karaoke sounds like now.
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MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
April 01 2011 12:46 GMT
#115
Wow how can he not predict flash.. That;s a no brainer.. I guess it was a while ago but damn anytime > flash LOL
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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 01 2011 12:50 GMT
#116
For 4 years of smoking to affect your voice you'd have to smoke ALOT.
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
April 01 2011 12:52 GMT
#117
Tasteless did zero casting for a huge amount of time between BW and SC2. His rasp isn't from casting too much...

I've seen this rasp come from simply smoking in many people IRL. It's not uncommon.
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goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 01 2011 12:55 GMT
#118
Casting/Smoking/Drinking/Age are all probably to blame.

His new voice is perfectly fine, though :/
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
April 01 2011 12:58 GMT
#119
On April 01 2011 21:15 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:24 Gov wrote:
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

You are assuming that he had the information he would have today back when he made those predictions, I'm sorry but time doesn't work like that


Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:17 teamsolid wrote:
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...

Flash wasn't anywhere near as dominant as he is now. He was a decent player infamous for his cheesy wins vs Bisu, but no one would've though he was Bonjwa material. Meanwhile Anytime was pretty much a beast. Seems very reasonable.


Show nested quote +
On April 01 2011 08:46 udgnim wrote:
On April 01 2011 08:11 Mooncat wrote:
Sorry for derailing but... wtf is with his analysis of the first two groups?(didn't watch the rest of the video)

Predicting Anytime over Flash & Mind!? o.O Predicting sAviOr to be the one to dominate the group?
Calling a group with Much, NaDa and Boxer the "group of death"!?

I think the question is not how long he has been smoking but WHAT has he been smoking...


uploaded by MickeyToss on Mar 13, 2008


As far as I know this was in 2008. At that time Anytime was nowhere near being a favorite against either Flash OR Mind. Anytime was still "ok" but he had his prime in 2006 iirc...


Anytime made it to the semi though.
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HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
April 01 2011 12:59 GMT
#120
Wow didn't know he use to sound like this either, I see some people said he is an avid smoker if this is true I would bet my money it has something to do with it.
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Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
April 01 2011 13:01 GMT
#121
I think he was on partymode big time under the time he did no casting.
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DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
April 01 2011 13:10 GMT
#122
On April 01 2011 09:06 Ben... wrote:
It comes from having to talk (loudly) so much for his job. My uncle has the same type of voice. He's an auctioneer who sounds quite similar to Tasteless. Your vocal chords can only handle so much before something gives. My uncle's vocal chords got so swollen that he was forced to have surgery done, and take over a month off with minimal talking to let them rest so he wouldn't cause even worse damage to his voice.

Also, look at Rachael Ray(I know she's terrible but it's an example), she was known for practically yelling on her show and she ended up having to have surgery and taking vocal lessons to help with the damage caused.

It's part of any profession where you have to talk like that.


Yeah this, most likely also combined with talking loudly (commentating) while having an infection. Smoking might be a factor but hardly the biggest one, know plenty of people who smoke a ton and no one has had any noticeable voice change in that short a time.

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MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
April 01 2011 13:17 GMT
#123
I'll take Seth Rogen Tasteless over virgin Tasteless anyday.
TimeSpiral
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1010 Posts
April 01 2011 13:21 GMT
#124
I don't have experience with smoking, but I do have experience with vocal fatigue.

There are control techniques one must use in order to preserve their vocal mechanisms when doing things like singing, lecturing, or in this case, casting, on a regular basis. If the techniques are not implemented, or you're using destructive methods, it can wreak havoc on your voice, for real.

Additionally, there are certain things you cannot do if you want to maintain optimal vocal clarity and endurance. One of those things is smoking. Obviously this is not a catch all, and you'll see ridiculously awesome singers that smoke, but they are exceptions (Layne Staley comes to mind, of course.)

I thought I remembered hearing Day9 mention that his brother was attending a vocal coach to help preserve his voice. I don't recall precisely, but if that is true, that is an excellent move.
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OldBamboo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 16:02:03
April 01 2011 13:28 GMT
#125
I went back in time and deleted what I said because it was stupid.
Ohdamn
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany765 Posts
April 01 2011 13:42 GMT
#126
you guys remember him at the gsl season 1 finals where he was "sick"?

http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/vod/1148 (you have to jump to about 20min)

so funny :D
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kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 15:09:37
April 01 2011 15:06 GMT
#127
On April 02 2011 00:06 kellymilkies wrote:
I can't believe all the jobbers who are talking bad about Nick in this thread considering how much he spend his time casting and bringing us great games.

He does NOT take drugs. It's just smoking cigarettes. And it is not like he is an addict who has one stuck between his lips all the time.
Stop exaggerating things and making a big deal out of nothing.

And his voice is so husky and deep not because of smoking (though I make fun of him about it all the time) but simply because he has been commentating for so long.
It's called shout-casting for a reason and for a period of time his voice was so evidently strained.

TBH Nothing wrong with his voice now. Sure it is different but his voice is still AlmightyTasteless.

Show nested quote +
Old Bamboo: I'd switch to smoking hookah

-No. That kills your voice. Tried and tested more than 3 times.
Your voice dies if you are casting the next day and you do Hookah. Plus he doesn't like it lol.

Peace.

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kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 15:09:28
April 01 2011 15:09 GMT
#128
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
April 01 2011 15:11 GMT
#129
Thank you, Kelly. Honestly, so many people in this thread don't understand how smoking works.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 15:14:49
April 01 2011 15:12 GMT
#130
On April 02 2011 00:06 kellymilkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 00:06 kellymilkies wrote:
I can't believe all the jobbers who are talking bad about Nick in this thread considering how much he spend his time casting and bringing us great games.

He does NOT take drugs. It's just smoking cigarettes. And it is not like he is an addict who has one stuck between his lips all the time.
Stop exaggerating things and making a big deal out of nothing.

And his voice is so husky and deep not because of smoking (though I make fun of him about it all the time) but simply because he has been commentating for so long.
It's called shout-casting for a reason and for a period of time his voice was so evidently strained.

TBH Nothing wrong with his voice now. Sure it is different but his voice is still AlmightyTasteless.

Old Bamboo: I'd switch to smoking hookah

-No. That kills your voice. Tried and tested more than 3 times.
Your voice dies if you are casting the next day and you do Hookah. Plus he doesn't like it lol.

Peace.




It's most likely due to multiple factors, and there's no need to isolate just one of them.

Yes, long-term smoking will damage your vocal cord and most likely make your voice deeper and hoarse, but it's not always a clear-cut case. There will be people whose voice don't change much even after years of smoking.

Same with long-term casting/commentating. Years of speaking loudly for hours each day can change your voice, but there are also plenty of people whose voice don't change. An example is many of those Korean BW casters who have been yelling louder than most western casters for years and still managed to retain their voice.

Repeatedly getting respiratory infections can also permanently change your voice for obvious reasons. You could just have a weak immune system or you could not be taking a good care of yourself.
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 01 2011 15:13 GMT
#131
I remember seeing someone comment about Tasteless's voice, saying his voice is more a result of lots of rough use without using proper voice maintenance for someone who is constantly talking and shouting as often as he does.
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Neino
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway295 Posts
April 01 2011 15:16 GMT
#132
I got be completely honest and say that I thought there were two different tasteless' in the starcraft world, could not recognize his voice in the GSL casts whatsoever <.<
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
April 01 2011 15:18 GMT
#133
Well if you watch the vods of his old casts, it's quite often he talks about how he lost his voice or he has to drink hot water to keep his voice going. Add several years of this with few breaks and add the fact that his voice was maturing at the same time, it's no wonder he has a much different voice now. Honestly I don't care how he sounds, as long as he keeps being a baller.
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kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
April 01 2011 15:18 GMT
#134
On April 02 2011 00:13 FezTheCaliph wrote:
I remember seeing someone comment about Tasteless's voice, saying his voice is more a result of lots of rough use without using proper voice maintenance for someone who is constantly talking and shouting as often as he does.


He uses his diaphragm to cast. A method he has also very kindly taught to me.
That means he does not damage his throat while he is casting (Most of the time) and that's how most high-level shoutcaster survive... or they wouldof died by now.
Good example of casters who uses diaphragm to cast would be TotalBiscuit.
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
April 01 2011 15:22 GMT
#135
On April 02 2011 00:18 kaztah wrote:
Well if you watch the vods of his old casts, it's quite often he talks about how he lost his voice or he has to drink hot water to keep his voice going. Add several years of this with few breaks and add the fact that his voice was maturing at the same time, it's no wonder he has a much different voice now. Honestly I don't care how he sounds, as long as he keeps being a baller.


Tasteless will not answer my question about how to achieve his level of baller-ness. It's very disheartening.

But I like his voice now. It's got a lot of character to it.
TimeSpiral
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1010 Posts
April 01 2011 15:56 GMT
#136
On April 02 2011 00:18 kellymilkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 00:13 FezTheCaliph wrote:
I remember seeing someone comment about Tasteless's voice, saying his voice is more a result of lots of rough use without using proper voice maintenance for someone who is constantly talking and shouting as often as he does.


He uses his diaphragm to cast. A method he has also very kindly taught to me.
That means he does not damage his throat while he is casting (Most of the time) and that's how most high-level shoutcaster survive... or they wouldof died by now.
Good example of casters who uses diaphragm to cast would be TotalBiscuit.


What she means by this is that they are using a vocal technique that pushes and controls the airflow with your abdominal muscles as opposed to your chest or your throat.

Good singers will do this to help preserve endurance, sonic consistency, and maintain proper pitch. Most singers who are untrained will strain their voice A LOT by using improper breathing and airflow techniques by "pushing and pulling" the notes from the chest and throat ...


bah. This is too hard to explain :/

*fail*
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 01 2011 15:58 GMT
#137
Wow he would sound like Artosis's brother if not for his current voice :<
Vash2940
Profile Joined December 2010
United States13 Posts
April 01 2011 16:01 GMT
#138
On April 01 2011 22:28 OldBamboo wrote:
It looks like he's lost some weight, too. Anyone else notice that?

He needs to take better care of his voice if he expects to keep doing this.

I'd switch to smoking hookah (no tar and less nicotine than cigarettes) and start chewing Airwaves gum before commentating.



Oh man I hope this is an April's Fools post. A hookah session is wayyyy worse then smoking cigs. The amount of smoke you inhale is so much more, and if you think there is no nicotine or tar in there you are mistaken. Also, because it is water filtered, it is NOT healthier. Please look this up on google before you tell more people about this. Hookahs are on par, if not worse then cigs.
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Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 16:10:50
April 01 2011 16:08 GMT
#139
Yes I don't think smoking for a few years will change your voice significantly.

I know people who have smoked for 30+ years and their voices don't have the hoarseness (a word?) of Tasteless'.

I would guess the reason with Tasteless is just insane amounts of casting with incorrect use of speaking voice. I think I read somewhere that he's taking lessons now to learn the proper techniques regarding how to use his voice so that's a good thing.
xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
April 01 2011 17:23 GMT
#140
I always assumed his coughing during the casts was in fact due to smoking (sounds just like me lol), but never knew he actually was a smoker... but I don't know if that could cause such a drastic change. I think Tasteless just wanted a baller voice and so he got one.
Demonzii
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands180 Posts
April 01 2011 17:30 GMT
#141
This is all lame.

We all know that tasteless just wanted chuck norris his voice.

Thats the story, chuck would gladly give it to him, in exchange of nerdism
tomoe251
Profile Joined January 2011
United States9 Posts
April 01 2011 20:50 GMT
#142
I hope this isn't an April Fools' joke But someone should reach out to him. I've seen patients with laryngeal cancer and one of the hallmark signs is sudden voice change . .

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003054.htm

Not sure if anyone discussed this since there are 8 pages here already, but it's a real concern. It could be nothing or it could be major.
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
April 01 2011 21:09 GMT
#143
On April 01 2011 22:17 MilesTeg wrote:
I'll take Seth Rogen Tasteless over virgin Tasteless anyday.


Indeed sir, indeed!
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 01 2011 21:22 GMT
#144
On April 02 2011 00:18 kellymilkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 00:13 FezTheCaliph wrote:
I remember seeing someone comment about Tasteless's voice, saying his voice is more a result of lots of rough use without using proper voice maintenance for someone who is constantly talking and shouting as often as he does.


He uses his diaphragm to cast. A method he has also very kindly taught to me.
That means he does not damage his throat while he is casting (Most of the time) and that's how most high-level shoutcaster survive... or they wouldof died by now.
Good example of casters who uses diaphragm to cast would be TotalBiscuit.


Haha that's funny to read, I play a metal(core) band and I know that vocalists that scream/grunt also 'sing' from their diaphragm in order to not fuck up their voice.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 01 2011 21:30 GMT
#145
LOL' ppl still arguing about Nick's voice.
Seriously I liked it before and I like it now.
Its alright as far as he keeps talking. I think this is what he does best.
He is doing a great job anyways. GOGO Tasteless Fighting !!!!
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ZUR1CH
Profile Joined February 2011
United States108 Posts
April 01 2011 21:37 GMT
#146
Smoking does not make your voice change that quickly. Cigarettes change your voice over decades, not five years. I've smoked for 7 years and no one has ever said my voice has changed. More than likely it was a natural change or due to the amount of casting he was doing and this straining his vocal chords (yelling, speaking rapidly, etc).
trancey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany729 Posts
April 01 2011 21:56 GMT
#147
On April 02 2011 06:22 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 00:18 kellymilkies wrote:
On April 02 2011 00:13 FezTheCaliph wrote:
I remember seeing someone comment about Tasteless's voice, saying his voice is more a result of lots of rough use without using proper voice maintenance for someone who is constantly talking and shouting as often as he does.


He uses his diaphragm to cast. A method he has also very kindly taught to me.
That means he does not damage his throat while he is casting (Most of the time) and that's how most high-level shoutcaster survive... or they wouldof died by now.
Good example of casters who uses diaphragm to cast would be TotalBiscuit.


Haha that's funny to read, I play a metal(core) band and I know that vocalists that scream/grunt also 'sing' from their diaphragm in order to not fuck up their voice.

http://www.ehow.com/video_2385244_sing-diaphragm.html mystery solved. what a voice change
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
April 01 2011 21:58 GMT
#148
On April 02 2011 00:06 kellymilkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 00:06 kellymilkies wrote:
I can't believe all the jobbers who are talking bad about Nick in this thread considering how much he spend his time casting and bringing us great games.

He does NOT take drugs. It's just smoking cigarettes. And it is not like he is an addict who has one stuck between his lips all the time.
Stop exaggerating things and making a big deal out of nothing.

And his voice is so husky and deep not because of smoking (though I make fun of him about it all the time) but simply because he has been commentating for so long.
It's called shout-casting for a reason and for a period of time his voice was so evidently strained.

TBH Nothing wrong with his voice now. Sure it is different but his voice is still AlmightyTasteless.

Old Bamboo: I'd switch to smoking hookah

-No. That kills your voice. Tried and tested more than 3 times.
Your voice dies if you are casting the next day and you do Hookah. Plus he doesn't like it lol.

Peace.


I honestly don't think people are talking bad about Nick, who can? It's just people are concerned for his well being and are expressing it. Whether they are expressing it properly and are being understood properly, thats a different matter.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
Better than IdrA
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 22:01:18
April 01 2011 22:00 GMT
#149
LOL when Kelly was asked what Tasteless smells like she answered: cigarettes.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
April 01 2011 22:01 GMT
#150
On April 01 2011 06:13 CyberPitz wrote:
This is not smoking....this is the same thing that happens to singers in a band when they have to scream/talk very loudly for hours and hours a day.


It's true, even in that interview they say he was casting non-stop for long periods of time. It just happens some times.
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 01 2011 22:03 GMT
#151
Tasteless sounds fine.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44321 Posts
April 01 2011 22:05 GMT
#152
I'd assume that it's a mix between smoking and constant casting of games.
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speakerbox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada453 Posts
April 01 2011 22:05 GMT
#153
Smoker voice is just so badass. Just fits him better
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-01 22:35:33
April 01 2011 22:11 GMT
#154
While it probably is a contribution from smoking, I do think there is more to it, such as a lot of commentary, aging, and different methods of speaking/casting; likely all of the above at the same time. Like someone on the first page posted, his voice changed a lot between [the video in the OP] and [that Artosis interview] in only a year.

I like his new voice better anyway. His voice was really smooth, but I do enjoy the deeper pitch of his current voice.

Plus if he still had his old voice his laugh would sound way too much like Day9's and I'd get more lol'y than I already do when he laughs hard enough that they sound the same.
HentaiPrime
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada85 Posts
April 01 2011 22:14 GMT
#155
lol @ smoking

do you guys think jason lee always talked the way he does now?
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IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
April 01 2011 22:19 GMT
#156
Maybe Tasteless just tries to get the same voice as Vin Diesel
ZUR1CH
Profile Joined February 2011
United States108 Posts
April 02 2011 03:50 GMT
#157
On April 02 2011 07:14 HentaiPrime wrote:
lol @ smoking

do you guys think jason lee always talked the way he does now?


Great example -- love me some Jason Lee in the Mallrats era. People who think smoking caused his voice to change that dramatically clearly are not smokers themselves. They'd realize how ridiculous it is to presume smoking makes your voice change that dramatically in one year. Completely silly assumption. As I said, smoking alters your voice over decades, not a handful of years. Having a profession that is based on constant talking and yelling, however, will certainly damage your vocal chords in a short amount of time.
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
April 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#158
Tasteless said he doesnt smoke it was just a lot of years of casting and yelling.
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Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
April 02 2011 04:50 GMT
#159
Tasteless smokes and knows how to party. Years of that combined with nonstop casting and yelling at Artosis will have an effect on your voice.

That said, its not a bad thing at all... a voice like that gives character. I don't mind it one bit
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 02 2011 04:59 GMT
#160
His voice is better now. Sounds more manly.
RHMVNovus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
April 02 2011 05:04 GMT
#161
27:10 in Game 8 of GSTL1

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gstl1/vod/60831

I'm aware he had been casting for a while before that. A healthy fatigued voice is hoarse, yes. But not that hoarse.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
April 02 2011 05:08 GMT
#162
On April 02 2011 00:06 kellymilkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 00:06 kellymilkies wrote:
I can't believe all the jobbers who are talking bad about Nick in this thread considering how much he spend his time casting and bringing us great games.

He does NOT take drugs. It's just smoking cigarettes. And it is not like he is an addict who has one stuck between his lips all the time.
Stop exaggerating things and making a big deal out of nothing.

And his voice is so husky and deep not because of smoking (though I make fun of him about it all the time) but simply because he has been commentating for so long.
It's called shout-casting for a reason and for a period of time his voice was so evidently strained.

TBH Nothing wrong with his voice now. Sure it is different but his voice is still AlmightyTasteless.

Old Bamboo: I'd switch to smoking hookah

-No. That kills your voice. Tried and tested more than 3 times.
Your voice dies if you are casting the next day and you do Hookah. Plus he doesn't like it lol.

Peace.



This quote needs to be posted more. Thanks kelly for the clarification.
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badwater
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada77 Posts
April 02 2011 06:11 GMT
#163
They're actually talking about his voice on GOM's stream. They're saying because ofnall the shouting in his cast he did for GOM.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
April 02 2011 06:11 GMT
#164
Bam, Tastosis just talked about it on stream

Artosis, "People talk about is, saying its from smoking, thats actually not true, it is from shouting"
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 02 2011 06:13 GMT
#165
he really needs to fix his voice >< makes all his casts sound like he's commenting in the middle of a football game with a tornado blowing through, on black friday!!!
Basileus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States103 Posts
April 02 2011 06:14 GMT
#166
I bet artosis saw this thread ^^
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
April 02 2011 06:15 GMT
#167
Is there a way to improve his voice though? or will he have to live with it forever?
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10340 Posts
April 02 2011 06:16 GMT
#168
wow, it sounds very different, but his new voice isn't bad or anything

that deepness and sometimes the gruffness present in his voice these days are fitting for a casters' job; you got to sound manly/epic/aggressive, etc. during intense parts of a match
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 02 2011 06:19 GMT
#169
On April 02 2011 15:15 Garnet wrote:
Is there a way to improve his voice though? or will he have to live with it forever?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_therapy_(transgender)#See_also
this is all i could find. I used to know a girl who went to a 'voicologist' or voice therapist because her voice was going through what tasteless sounds like while growing up, but I couldn't find what that was.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 06:29:25
April 02 2011 06:20 GMT
#170
Ouch... Tasteless' voice is really hoarse tonight. Sounds like he has lung cancer when he laughs
henreiman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States407 Posts
April 02 2011 06:21 GMT
#171
Watching live right now, and it sounds very scratchy/throaty. Might just be sick or something, but remembered this thread and thought it was kinda odd.
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
April 02 2011 06:22 GMT
#172
He does like all Code A and Code S...always working that involved practically screaming is going to wear down your voice a little... It's fine.
Try another route paperboy.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
April 02 2011 06:22 GMT
#173
Tasteless voice is super raspy tonight its really painful to listen too
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Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
April 02 2011 06:26 GMT
#174
He used to sound a lot more like Day[9], for obvious reasons. I think he really needs a small holiday. Not just because of his voice, but because he obviously works hard.
applejuice
Profile Joined October 2010
307 Posts
April 02 2011 06:39 GMT
#175

Smoking absolutely aggravated it. Smoking will cause inflammation of the vocal cords. Which I guess is not going to help his voice recover!!! Just a thought!!!
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
April 02 2011 06:41 GMT
#176
On April 02 2011 15:39 applejuice wrote:

Smoking absolutely aggravated it. Smoking will cause inflammation of the vocal cords. Which I guess is not going to help his voice recover!!! Just a thought!!!

I don't think anyone would disagree with you there. Smoking definitely doesn't help. But after it from the man himself it's definitely not the central cause as to why his voice is the way it is.
"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 02 2011 06:52 GMT
#177
I like the contrasting high and low combo of their voices.
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
April 02 2011 07:03 GMT
#178
This is one of those threads I do not understand why is open still ><
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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
April 02 2011 07:13 GMT
#179
Smoking may not be the main factor,but it definitely wont help his voice/health at all as time passes.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 02 2011 07:17 GMT
#180
It is more from getting excited and shouting during tense moments than smoking
I wish people would quit bringing up smoking
his voice is like a manly flowing river of awesome
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
April 02 2011 07:24 GMT
#181
So...for like a year or two Tasteless did almost no casting, and now his voice is more hoarse because he started casting again? Don't buy it, it's the smoking. I like Tasteless and he was what got me into pro BW on GOM back in the day, but I really miss his more alert humor and smoother voice from the old days.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
April 02 2011 07:26 GMT
#182
All of you should try teaching in front of a class for a couple of hours a day. Believe me, your voice will not be the same at the end of the week if you're not used to it. I personally don't teach (a lot of people in my family do), but I do have to give aikido class from time to time. My voice gets hoarse after an hour and a half. Hell, when I go to a party I can barely speak the day afterwards from having to shout above the music.. Tasteless has to cast for hours at an end, and tends to shout a lot. This will obviously put a lot of strain on his voice.
etceteraetcetera
Profile Joined June 2009
United States38 Posts
April 02 2011 08:00 GMT
#183
it seems more like he has a tv voice. smoking doesn't change your voice so much until you've been smoking for way longer than he has.

skip to past about the halfway mark, and you'll hear him talk, and this was a year ago. I remember watching the wcg from i think 2009 when he was commentating and I actually didn't know who he was but remembered his voice when I watched the GSL because he speaks so deeply when he's on the air.
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
April 02 2011 08:15 GMT
#184
Unless he smokes infrequently it most assuredly is a contributing factor. Ever hear a screamo band after a few years? There's a Swedish band called Blindside that I grew up listening to thanks to my mom buying one of their albums for me on accident.

1997:
+ Show Spoiler [ warning screamo] +

2002:
+ Show Spoiler +




What I heard (and unfortunately can't confirm) was that the lead singer even had to go to the hospital after straining his voice to much during a performance. I don't know if they smoke or not but I do know they don't sound like a 60 year old chain smoker even after performing for years. I can't imagine that Tasteless is putting more stress on his voice then these guys yet he still sounds horse all the time now, maybe some damage was caused by casting while sick, but still they'res just no way that smoking doesn't have any influence.

I love Tasteless, i just hope he takes care of himself before he end up like Dick Vitale.
Clawlock
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia29 Posts
April 02 2011 12:39 GMT
#185
he got the black lung, pop.

but srsly i could swear he has emphysema developing. such a shame since his voice is the tool he needs most to do his job well.

he might also need voice training/therapy. thats what i had because I've a pissweak larynx and needed to re-learn to speak from my diaphragm to avoid chronic laryngitis.
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Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
April 02 2011 12:46 GMT
#186
I think smoking must play a role in the way his voice has turned out to be honest. On some days, it sound decent enough but on others, it sounds rough to say the least. However, tasteless is 1 of my 3 favourate commentators along with Day9 and Artosis so I dont really care what his voice sounds like as long as I can understand him.
CoMMoDuS
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany507 Posts
April 02 2011 12:47 GMT
#187
after nada's body and tasteless' voice iam really looking forward to the "idras eyesight" thread.
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mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 13:01:31
April 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#188
All these smoking comments are driving me INSANE!!!

I've been smoking for like 16 years now and my voice is, if anything, a tad on the higher side...

The effect that smoking has on a voice is ridiculously small! Almost non-existent! So stop talking shit without knowing anything... Then again, this is the internet, home of talking about everything without knowing anything...

Having said all that I would like to know what DID change his voice so drastically. That's a pretty extreme shift!

But: Chicks dig it, so more power to him. Also having a distinctive voice as a commentator is hardly a bad thing, isn't it?
sinjitsu_
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia196 Posts
April 02 2011 13:06 GMT
#189
yes smokers do get raspier voices.
Cwall
Profile Joined September 2010
United States64 Posts
April 02 2011 13:08 GMT
#190
Tasteless confirmed during a recent cast that his voice has changed only due to casting for so long. He even went to say that he doesn't even smoke, I believe.
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
April 02 2011 13:09 GMT
#191
Tastless is a cyborg and has been replaced many times.
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SundeR.
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 15:00:15
April 02 2011 14:59 GMT
#192
He has stated on air that he does voice acting classes.

He is clearly talking out of his chest. Announcers everywhere do this, it's to give it a deeper tone, that's louder and clearer. It's called projecting.

This thread is creepy.
BalZer
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 15:25:39
April 02 2011 15:06 GMT
#193
On April 02 2011 23:59 SundeR. wrote:
He has stated on air that he does voice acting classes.

He is clearly talking out of his chest. Announcers everywhere do this, it's to give it a deeper tone, that's louder and clearer. It's called projecting.

This thread is creepy.



quote.
his new voice is just the result of the diaphragm use in the range of chest voice.
this sometimes may result in a deeper but hoarse voice in some subject who smoke and talk/scream a lot.
but if he would use his "throat-and non acting" voice, he would sound clear like the older videos.
so, yea, definitely just acting.

in fact:

On April 01 2011 06:24 btx0 wrote:
What happened between Aug 10, 2008 and Sep 21, 2008?
Check out http://www.gomtv.net/classic/vod/249 (skip to minute 6) and http://www.gomtv.net/classics2/vod/257 (skip to minute 3).


it's impossible that a voice can change like this in just 1 month, unless some serious injury happen, however is definitely possible to learn how to breathe and speak with diaphragm in just 1 mont.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
April 02 2011 17:01 GMT
#194
Its just casting with high volume level for so long as he said on AIR that made his voice like that, I feel like he needs a long vacation. Hes voice was today even worse than normally.
DestroManiak
Profile Joined December 2010
257 Posts
April 02 2011 19:09 GMT
#195
a little off topic but it really bothers me that tasteless is standing up when he is on camera on the new gsl set
I feel very bad for him
he shouldn't have to stand up whenever we see him
Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
April 02 2011 19:33 GMT
#196
Dont see how it could be smoking, he's only, what, 26?

He's clearly a big fan of the God of War series, maybe he played it so much he started talking like Kratos.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
April 02 2011 19:38 GMT
#197
it's like some of you have never met someone who smokes

or someone who talks for hours upon hours a day at a high volume

moreso I am surprised at how many people think they know exactly how much a starcraft 2 caster smokes. is this info available somewhere? did his doctor post in this thread?
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Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
April 02 2011 19:39 GMT
#198
On April 02 2011 16:24 0neder wrote:
So...for like a year or two Tasteless did almost no casting, and now his voice is more hoarse because he started casting again? Don't buy it, it's the smoking. I like Tasteless and he was what got me into pro BW on GOM back in the day, but I really miss his more alert humor and smoother voice from the old days.

why don't you buy it?

he stopped doing something that would affect his voice, and then when he started doing it again it affected his voice.

where's the issue?
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entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-04 19:28:25
April 04 2011 19:24 GMT
#199
On April 03 2011 04:39 Vari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2011 16:24 0neder wrote:
So...for like a year or two Tasteless did almost no casting, and now his voice is more hoarse because he started casting again? Don't buy it, it's the smoking. I like Tasteless and he was what got me into pro BW on GOM back in the day, but I really miss his more alert humor and smoother voice from the old days.

why don't you buy it?

he stopped doing something that would affect his voice, and then when he started doing it again it affected his voice.

where's the issue?



probably because his voice already sounded way different the first day he came back to casting, despite having rested his throat for a year. just pull up the 1st day VODs of GSL Open Season 1 and compare it to any of his old BW VODs; the voice had already degraded a ton even though he wasn't casting at all for the entire year prior to the start of the first GSL.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
April 04 2011 21:09 GMT
#200
im speechless, that used to be tasteless voice?
i gotta smoke more!
RawRr
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada3 Posts
April 04 2011 21:30 GMT
#201
wow he used to sound good
OldBamboo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 16:01:14
April 05 2011 15:15 GMT
#202
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 15:22:26
April 05 2011 15:22 GMT
#203
On April 02 2011 17:00 etceteraetcetera wrote:
it seems more like he has a tv voice. smoking doesn't change your voice so much until you've been smoking for way longer than he has.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a32_8jofQVA&feature=relmfu
skip to past about the halfway mark, and you'll hear him talk, and this was a year ago. I remember watching the wcg from i think 2009 when he was commentating and I actually didn't know who he was but remembered his voice when I watched the GSL because he speaks so deeply when he's on the air.

Actually after watching this again and realizing how recently it is (I remember watching this live!! The good ole beta days..), I'm pretty confident his casting voice is an "on-air" voice where he's speaking differently. Actually I'd be curious to find any VERY recent (well post-GSL times) vids of him in casual conversation using regular voice. Might put some of these claims to shame.
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
April 09 2011 07:19 GMT
#204
Is it just me or does tasteless voice actually sound pretty "clean" like his old one on GOM atm?
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
April 09 2011 07:22 GMT
#205
On April 09 2011 16:19 Darneck wrote:
Is it just me or does tasteless voice actually sound pretty "clean" like his old one on GOM atm?


I thought the same thing.
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
April 09 2011 07:27 GMT
#206
I love me some Tasteless, and while I think his raspy voice is more distinctive than it used to be, the fact that it has changed so much does concern me a little bit. I really hope smoking hasn't damaged his larynx that much. I've seen a smokers larynx, and it's possibly the most disturbing thing I've ever seen.
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Kryptonite
Profile Joined June 2010
United States155 Posts
April 09 2011 07:29 GMT
#207
i think he just loses his voice very easily and results in the raspy tasteless voice
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
April 09 2011 07:32 GMT
#208
On April 09 2011 16:29 Kryptonite wrote:
i think he just loses his voice very easily and results in the raspy tasteless voice

this
not everyone can handle mass talking dudes, u needa realize that.
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KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
April 09 2011 07:44 GMT
#209
I don't know what Tasteless used to sound like but to me his voice just sounds normal ?
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
April 09 2011 07:48 GMT
#210
He has been smoking like 2-3 of fags almost everyday or something I guess, it makes your voice just like that.. kinda rasp
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towel
Profile Joined October 2009
Sweden156 Posts
April 09 2011 07:50 GMT
#211
hire this guy instead
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a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
April 09 2011 07:51 GMT
#212
I thought that too, but maybe it's cause he hasn't been commentating for few days? Or something, maybe it's the outside venue.
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Kallen
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
April 09 2011 07:51 GMT
#213
His voice just gets worn out from talking all the time... I am listening to him on the GSL right now and his voice sounds great since there was about a 5 day break... he sounds sexy!
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Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
April 09 2011 07:54 GMT
#214
This GSL WC finals match his voice sounds normal again... not like before but before he was a kid. Now you're just hearing the man version of his voice.
Knightlax
Profile Joined July 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 07:55:54
April 09 2011 07:55 GMT
#215
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 09 2011 07:58 GMT
#216
Your voice changes throughout your life, keep in mind that different microphones make your voice sound different as well (even codecs change the way your voice sounds).
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 07:59:44
April 09 2011 07:59 GMT
#217
The smoking thing making his voice bad is false. He does smoke, but obviously it hasn't changed his voice.

It's been said by him and many others that he just loses his voice easily now.

His voice sounds just like it did in BW here at the finals.
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
April 09 2011 08:00 GMT
#218
On April 09 2011 16:58 Sensator wrote:
Your voice changes throughout your life, keep in mind that different microphones make your voice sound different as well (even codecs change the way your voice sounds).

Thing is that artosis voice has basically sounded the same forever now ^^
Sloptart
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
April 09 2011 08:08 GMT
#219
I liked tasteless's earlier voice.

User was temp made admin after this post
aliciakeyzz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States26 Posts
April 09 2011 08:11 GMT
#220
His new/old voice on the wc finals is way too nasally. Bring back raspy voice!
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 09 2011 08:15 GMT
#221
On April 09 2011 17:08 Sloptart wrote:
I liked tasteless's earlier voice.

User was temp made admin after this post


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Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
April 09 2011 08:19 GMT
#222
As most ex-smokers, I've become totally allergic to smoking and everything related to it. The new, raspy voice reeks of unhealthiness, and was the main reason for me to stop watching GSL after season 2.

Some few people has bodies that can tolerate it, but his can't. And as a commentator he should find some other central stimulant to (ab)use, that doesn't hurt the cast.
Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
April 09 2011 08:45 GMT
#223
On April 01 2011 06:15 DocHolliday wrote:
Does everyone that says its because (or partly because) of smoking even know if this is true? or are these just assumptions?

Tasteless himself said he hardly smokes, and that people who say his voice changed because of smoking are crazy, he mentioned it during one of the GSL casts.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
April 09 2011 08:46 GMT
#224
I thought his voice sounded great today, pretty clear that the 5 days off helped him out quite a bit.
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HaNdFisH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia119 Posts
April 09 2011 08:51 GMT
#225
His voice was noticeably smoother in todays cast of the GSL WC finals. I'm not sure if it was just being able to take a break or what, but it was a pleasant change. Made his+Artosis's already great casting just that bit better.
Cops
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom172 Posts
April 10 2011 01:32 GMT
#226
Wow just watched the GSL final and Tasteless' voice sounds completely different 0.0
This was from just 5 days off? I think he needs to take breaks more often.
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kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
April 10 2011 03:08 GMT
#227
Yeah, he did sound like his younger self in the GSL WC finals. So strange lol
Cythe
Profile Joined May 2010
United States47 Posts
April 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#228
Yeah tasteless himself stated along with artosis recently in the gsl that his voice difference is due to lots of casting.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 10 2011 03:54 GMT
#229
Well that nails it. Shouting into the microphone day after day fucks up your voice, which is the case for Tasteless.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
April 10 2011 04:02 GMT
#230
I don't think it's smoking. Just listening to early GSL casts

like this one

his voice has changed a lot. I think it's just the commentating.
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
April 10 2011 04:21 GMT
#231
His voice changes have nothing to do w/ smoking or any assorted craziness. It's just what happens when you talk a TON. You have to be super absurdly responsible about taking forced rests of silence and drinking stupid amounts of water all the time. I seriously have to guzzle like 3 gallons of water every day to make sure my voice doesn't fry out. When my voice does fry out, I sound exactly like Nick :D.

Nick had the hardest time w/ his voice probably 2-3 years into his BW shoutcasting career when he was traveling around a TON to venues that didn't have modern casting setups. For virtually every event, you have a "line in" to your headset. That is, whenever I talk, I can hear myself in my own headphones. Unfortunately, Nick's early venues didn't have appropriate line-in setups, or had no headset at all. When that's the case, it's REALLY difficult to control the volume of your voice. Moreover, Nick grew to popularity because he was both extremely knowledgeable about SC1 and would get appropriately excited and shout during moments of action. Combine that w/ the no line-in and BOOM voice disappears after just one day.

I still remember Nick calling me and telling me how stressful it is when he REALLY wants to make the cast good, but is REALLY concerned about losing his voice. It makes it a rough balance. So, Nick started to take voice acting lessons to learn to control his voice better. Over time, it's gotten MUCH much better.

However, the honest truth is that when you're talking as much as Nick, your voice gets hoarse really easily. Spend one hour somewhere kinda loud and it's doom time. I remember I was taking a bus back from downtown and it was extremely hard to hear so I was talking pretty loudly. Next day when I woke up, BOOM voice gone. I play Ultimate Frisbee on the weekends and yell a bit w/ excitement. Next day, BOOM voice gone. Gotta be careful in casting. Your voice is your baby!
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LightWireEX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 04:25:08
April 10 2011 04:23 GMT
#232
The thoughthammer has spoken!!!

And he's right, I've been smoking for the same amount of time and I have no rasp in my voice (because of the fact that I'm not commentating everyday of my life).

Nick had a few days off etc and he commentated the GSL WC finals and he sounded exactly like he did when he was younger. It's a lot different after spending weeks casting matches for Code S.
ghOst.3344
BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
April 10 2011 04:33 GMT
#233
On April 10 2011 13:21 Day[9] wrote:
His voice changes have nothing to do w/ smoking or any assorted craziness. It's just what happens when you talk a TON. You have to be super absurdly responsible about taking forced rests of silence and drinking stupid amounts of water all the time. I seriously have to guzzle like 3 gallons of water every day to make sure my voice doesn't fry out. When my voice does fry out, I sound exactly like Nick :D.

Nick had the hardest time w/ his voice probably 2-3 years into his BW shoutcasting career when he was traveling around a TON to venues that didn't have modern casting setups. For virtually every event, you have a "line in" to your headset. That is, whenever I talk, I can hear myself in my own headphones. Unfortunately, Nick's early venues didn't have appropriate line-in setups, or had no headset at all. When that's the case, it's REALLY difficult to control the volume of your voice. Moreover, Nick grew to popularity because he was both extremely knowledgeable about SC1 and would get appropriately excited and shout during moments of action. Combine that w/ the no line-in and BOOM voice disappears after just one day.

I still remember Nick calling me and telling me how stressful it is when he REALLY wants to make the cast good, but is REALLY concerned about losing his voice. It makes it a rough balance. So, Nick started to take voice acting lessons to learn to control his voice better. Over time, it's gotten MUCH much better.

However, the honest truth is that when you're talking as much as Nick, your voice gets hoarse really easily. Spend one hour somewhere kinda loud and it's doom time. I remember I was taking a bus back from downtown and it was extremely hard to hear so I was talking pretty loudly. Next day when I woke up, BOOM voice gone. I play Ultimate Frisbee on the weekends and yell a bit w/ excitement. Next day, BOOM voice gone. Gotta be careful in casting. Your voice is your baby!


Well I guess thats that. Really glad that Tasteless's voice isn't wrecked by smoking but by Starcraft. lol.

And Day 9 plays Ultimate? Even more awesome than he was.
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
April 10 2011 04:44 GMT
#234
On April 10 2011 13:23 LightWireEX wrote:
The thoughthammer has spoken!!!

And he's right, I've been smoking for the same amount of time and I have no rasp in my voice (because of the fact that I'm not commentating everyday of my life).

Nick had a few days off etc and he commentated the GSL WC finals and he sounded exactly like he did when he was younger. It's a lot different after spending weeks casting matches for Code S.


I'm only just now watching the vod's of the WC finals, came into this thread to say exactly that, Nick's voice was much closer to his younger voice.
LightWireEX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 04:46:11
April 10 2011 04:45 GMT
#235
On April 10 2011 13:44 deth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 13:23 LightWireEX wrote:
The thoughthammer has spoken!!!

And he's right, I've been smoking for the same amount of time and I have no rasp in my voice (because of the fact that I'm not commentating everyday of my life).

Nick had a few days off etc and he commentated the GSL WC finals and he sounded exactly like he did when he was younger. It's a lot different after spending weeks casting matches for Code S.


I'm only just now watching the vod's of the WC finals, came into this thread to say exactly that, Nick's voice was much closer to his younger voice.



Yeah really, it was almost scary, like a ghost of the past was commentating the match or something. I was pleased.

The outside arena+youngtasteless made it feel like a BW finals.
ghOst.3344
Brandus
Profile Joined September 2010
148 Posts
April 10 2011 04:52 GMT
#236
im actually completely gay for tasteless , he doesn't even have to say a word
AdriftSC
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden66 Posts
August 29 2011 08:48 GMT
#237
Tasteless voice seems to be getting worse and worse, he can barely raise his voice now during the MLG
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
August 29 2011 08:50 GMT
#238
He's also done voice acting in korea.

Personally I love tasteless no matter how fragile his voice gets.
-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
August 29 2011 08:51 GMT
#239
On August 29 2011 17:48 AdriftSC wrote:
Tasteless voice seems to be getting worse and worse, he can barely raise his voice now during the MLG


That's what happens when you have to cast ALL weekend and talk to fans nonstop. Give him a break, it will get better just needs a few days.

Also see day9s post above and nice necro T_T
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
August 29 2011 08:53 GMT
#240
On April 10 2011 13:21 Day[9] wrote:
His voice changes have nothing to do w/ smoking or any assorted craziness. It's just what happens when you talk a TON. You have to be super absurdly responsible about taking forced rests of silence and drinking stupid amounts of water all the time. I seriously have to guzzle like 3 gallons of water every day to make sure my voice doesn't fry out. When my voice does fry out, I sound exactly like Nick :D.

Nick had the hardest time w/ his voice probably 2-3 years into his BW shoutcasting career when he was traveling around a TON to venues that didn't have modern casting setups. For virtually every event, you have a "line in" to your headset. That is, whenever I talk, I can hear myself in my own headphones. Unfortunately, Nick's early venues didn't have appropriate line-in setups, or had no headset at all. When that's the case, it's REALLY difficult to control the volume of your voice. Moreover, Nick grew to popularity because he was both extremely knowledgeable about SC1 and would get appropriately excited and shout during moments of action. Combine that w/ the no line-in and BOOM voice disappears after just one day.

I still remember Nick calling me and telling me how stressful it is when he REALLY wants to make the cast good, but is REALLY concerned about losing his voice. It makes it a rough balance. So, Nick started to take voice acting lessons to learn to control his voice better. Over time, it's gotten MUCH much better.

However, the honest truth is that when you're talking as much as Nick, your voice gets hoarse really easily. Spend one hour somewhere kinda loud and it's doom time. I remember I was taking a bus back from downtown and it was extremely hard to hear so I was talking pretty loudly. Next day when I woke up, BOOM voice gone. I play Ultimate Frisbee on the weekends and yell a bit w/ excitement. Next day, BOOM voice gone. Gotta be careful in casting. Your voice is your baby!


I'm glad this thread got bumped because I never saw this post. 5/5
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AdriftSC
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden66 Posts
August 29 2011 08:55 GMT
#241
I'm not bashing tasteless of anything, he's doing an unbelievable job. Just saying that it can sometimes be painful to listen to.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
August 29 2011 08:57 GMT
#242
Fuck, I hope no one is dissing my man Tasteless! He loses his voice from talking too much, he talks a shit ton and is hilarious.

Y(._.u)
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Fkyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States109 Posts
August 29 2011 09:03 GMT
#243
I love Tasteless' voice.

After reading Day9's reply, a lot of my questions about Tasteless' casting have been answered. It makes sense now why he doesn't show nearly as much excitement during the games as he did in BW. I was kind of missing those things, but in the end, I'd rather have it this way. Tasteless is a great caster and everyone should love him!
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Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 09:05:12
August 29 2011 09:04 GMT
#244
On August 29 2011 18:03 Fkyx wrote:
I love Tasteless' voice.

After reading Day9's reply, a lot of my questions about Tasteless' casting have been answered. It makes sense now why he doesn't show nearly as much excitement during the games as he did in BW. I was kind of missing those things, but in the end, I'd rather have it this way. Tasteless is a great caster and everyone should love him!

Which reply?

nvm, found it
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 29 2011 09:18 GMT
#245
It's obvious (from Day9's post, and common sense) that Tasteless was getting really tired yesterday. Can't blame him for that, nothing more to it. I don't think Tasteless' voice is getting worse, that's just what happens when he has to cast for a long time. He never has to do this at GSL either, so he's probably not used to going for such a long time.

Haha, makes me think of those people complaining about Tastosis taking breaks yesterday. Some were even saying it's easy to cast for that long, it's just "talking and watching starcraft"

-_-;;
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Shmohawk
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden21 Posts
August 29 2011 09:25 GMT
#246
In 5 years he'll sound like Seth Rogen and in 10 years like John Madden
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 29 2011 09:25 GMT
#247
On August 29 2011 18:18 marttorn wrote:

Haha, makes me think of those people complaining about Tastosis taking breaks yesterday. Some were even saying it's easy to cast for that long, it's just "talking and watching starcraft"

-_-;;


i kind of wish that in that situation, if tasteless' voice was that bad (only caught bits of it as I was mostly on the other stream, but it did seem even worse than usual), then if artosis was ok they'd have had JP or someone else (incontrol or gretorp were doing nothing by then, right?) fill in for him. personally i think that'd be an improvement as i don't find tasteless entertaining/funny and he adds nothing on game knowledge that artosis doesn't cover
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Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
August 29 2011 09:25 GMT
#248
new voice 10x cooler
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 29 2011 09:31 GMT
#249
Smokes so much cigar or drinks a lot of whisky? Just kidding but I guess he shouts a lot.
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LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
August 29 2011 09:42 GMT
#250
tasteless acts/talks like a stoner a lot IMO. lol not saying it's bad thing, that is just my observation
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Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2574 Posts
August 29 2011 09:47 GMT
#251
Smoking makes his voice raspy. It's not a bad thing, I actually like it. I don't like when he loses his voice though LawLs.
Wishing you well.
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
August 29 2011 09:47 GMT
#252
On August 29 2011 18:42 LtCalley wrote:
tasteless acts/talks like a stoner a lot IMO. lol not saying it's bad thing, that is just my observation


Think he used to smoke a lot but I hear its much stricter in Korea as far as that goes so I figure he doesn't as much now. I think I remember him posting happy 420 in the long ago days when he still posted on TL
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
August 29 2011 09:56 GMT
#253
It's what happens when you lose your passion. EZ. He's up too late shouting his plans to fellow E-Sport ruiners.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
August 29 2011 09:56 GMT
#254
On August 29 2011 18:47 BFCrimson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 18:42 LtCalley wrote:
tasteless acts/talks like a stoner a lot IMO. lol not saying it's bad thing, that is just my observation


Think he used to smoke a lot but I hear its much stricter in Korea as far as that goes so I figure he doesn't as much now. I think I remember him posting happy 420 in the long ago days when he still posted on TL


Or you can just go back and read Day9's answer
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OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
August 29 2011 09:58 GMT
#255
On August 29 2011 18:47 BFCrimson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 18:42 LtCalley wrote:
tasteless acts/talks like a stoner a lot IMO. lol not saying it's bad thing, that is just my observation


Think he used to smoke a lot but I hear its much stricter in Korea as far as that goes so I figure he doesn't as much now. I think I remember him posting happy 420 in the long ago days when he still posted on TL

thats false. close to 50% of the male south korean population smokes. and cigarettes are really cheap and readily available. tasteless does smoke alot.
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BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 10:12:50
August 29 2011 10:11 GMT
#256
On August 29 2011 18:58 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 18:47 BFCrimson wrote:
On August 29 2011 18:42 LtCalley wrote:
tasteless acts/talks like a stoner a lot IMO. lol not saying it's bad thing, that is just my observation


Think he used to smoke a lot but I hear its much stricter in Korea as far as that goes so I figure he doesn't as much now. I think I remember him posting happy 420 in the long ago days when he still posted on TL

thats false. close to 50% of the male south korean population smokes. and cigarettes are really cheap and readily available. tasteless does smoke alot.


If you took the time to read the quote, I was clearly refering to marijuana. And to the poster above you I never said a word about how it may have affected his voice, was just responding to the guy I quoted. Anyways....
Ryuuka
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden87 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 10:13:59
August 29 2011 10:12 GMT
#257
I guess Artosis and Day9 just don't have the same "problem" or what you want to call it? I don't see any problem with it at all (I'm not bashing Tasteless!) but he does seem to lose his voice a lot more / easier then those two. I mean how many times have you heard Artosis losing his voice before Tasteless?

I understand you can lose your voice when you talk/shout as much as they do but as I said, I never really hear any other shoutcaster lose their voice the same way, maybe I've just missed it. I know everyones different so it might just be that :p
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
August 29 2011 10:15 GMT
#258
Oh my god he used to have a perfect voice.
sephius
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
August 29 2011 10:21 GMT
#259
Tasteless still sounds fucking awesome. You should look up Day9's post and see why his voice has changed. Must be pretty tough but he's still very listenable and awesome :D
dsll
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom143 Posts
August 29 2011 10:24 GMT
#260
His voice is awesome i just hope he doesn't do himself any harm!
Tuk
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom223 Posts
August 29 2011 11:32 GMT
#261
i doubt 4 years of smoking would have that much of affect no matter how heavy, its probably just changed over time.
Senixter
Profile Joined July 2011
51 Posts
August 29 2011 11:48 GMT
#262
Tasteless will become speechless if this goes on.
BleaK_
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway593 Posts
August 29 2011 11:54 GMT
#263
It's more likely that he never warms up, never drink hot beverage and relax after a huge casting series. Casting is alot of strain on the vocal cord, and if you don't treat it well it can cause damage over time.
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
August 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#264
tasteless's voice used to be so nice and warm
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bengal
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4 Posts
August 29 2011 11:59 GMT
#265
I'm a 3d teacher for a couple months a year and after the first week of lectures i sounds like solid snake. If I kept that up for any longer than I do I would have no voice at all. One year when that was combined with a cold i was hoarse for a month after.
oZe
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden492 Posts
August 29 2011 12:05 GMT
#266
It is not due to smoking. A friend used to smoke over a kilo of hasch & marijuana a year for over a decade. That's about 10-15 major league baseball bats a day. Several of my friends are heavy tobacco smokers. Not a single one sounds even remotely like tasteless.

He's just been talking so much it's like he's been lifting weights with his vocal cords.

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Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
August 29 2011 12:08 GMT
#267
On August 29 2011 21:05 oZe wrote:
It is not due to smoking. A friend used to smoke over a kilo of hasch & marijuana a year for over a decade. That's about 10-15 major league baseball bats a day. Several of my friends are heavy tobacco smokers. Not a single one sounds even remotely like tasteless.

He's just been talking so much it's like he's been lifting weights with his vocal cords.



Are you aware that different substances can affect different people in different ways? Not all people who smoke get lung cancer for example.
God is dead.
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 12:09:34
August 29 2011 12:08 GMT
#268
easy answer: smoking and a lot of casting^^
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Andtwo
Profile Joined June 2009
United States126 Posts
August 29 2011 12:12 GMT
#269
I'm glad he's seeing a vocal coach--hopefully it's some sort of speech pathologist. He's probably developing nodules.

Honestly, a vocal warmup would help. I hope that he's doing one. Water helps, tea (NOT CAFFEINATED) helps. If he's having any sort of acid reflux, that's really hurting him too.

The biggest thing he's doing though is he's talking too much for one breath group. Notice how when he's casting, he keeps talking and talking and then his voice gets softer and more hoarse? It's because he's so excited about a cast and needs to keep saying things that he talks for too long in one breath group. This can really hurt your voice.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
August 29 2011 12:12 GMT
#270
what were the actual results for this tournament? did he get his predictions right?
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Am0n3r
Profile Joined April 2010
United States254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 13:57:54
August 29 2011 12:21 GMT
#271
Sorry, removed due to spoiler
Get comfortable being uncomfortable
AikaEU
Profile Joined July 2011
Slovenia46 Posts
August 29 2011 12:26 GMT
#272
smoking has nothing to do with his voice change. just too much casting.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
August 29 2011 12:28 GMT
#273
Smoking + aging + using his voice non-stop for years.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
August 29 2011 12:34 GMT
#274
Stop smoking Tasteless
I'm getting the derection.
DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
August 29 2011 12:35 GMT
#275
Regardless of whether his voice is negatively effected by smoking or not, I think we can all agree that him stopping smoking would be an overall good thing.

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Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
August 29 2011 12:38 GMT
#276
Oh the "old" Tasteless ♥ The voice, the passion for Brood War that shines thru his eyes in every video and the funky hair colours. Forever the coolest nerd.
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Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
August 29 2011 12:38 GMT
#277
day9 begins to sound the same sometimes when he's been casting for a long time. maybe genetic. :p
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2087 Posts
August 29 2011 12:46 GMT
#278
too much casting, 1 year of heavy GSL casting and other events has taken it's toll, he needs to cut down it doesn't sound good at all.
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Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
August 29 2011 12:49 GMT
#279
I've heard something about him having a surgery?

There was some GSL episode ago when he did that "You lost your passion" joke and said ironicly that he was sorry that his voice isnt what it used to be and that he made a surgery.

That surgery part might be true tho... hmmm. Anyhow the newer voice makes him sound funnier I enjoy it.
Fspoonork
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada111 Posts
August 29 2011 13:21 GMT
#280
His voice is probably still like (to an extent) that but he never gets the chance for his voice to rest and recover from so much commentating for the past few years.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
August 29 2011 13:27 GMT
#281
On August 29 2011 21:26 AikaEU wrote:
smoking has nothing to do with his voice change. just too much casting.


Then how do you explain the fact that Artosis still sounds as good as he did ten years ago? Artosis is just as loud during casting if not louder than Tasteless.
The spice must flow
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 29 2011 13:32 GMT
#282
but i really think he said it was HARDCORE smoking
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cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
August 29 2011 13:33 GMT
#283
On August 29 2011 22:27 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 21:26 AikaEU wrote:
smoking has nothing to do with his voice change. just too much casting.


Then how do you explain the fact that Artosis still sounds as good as he did ten years ago? Artosis is just as loud during casting if not louder than Tasteless.
Tasteless has casted a lot more than artosis.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 29 2011 13:34 GMT
#284
On August 29 2011 22:27 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 21:26 AikaEU wrote:
smoking has nothing to do with his voice change. just too much casting.


Then how do you explain the fact that Artosis still sounds as good as he did ten years ago? Artosis is just as loud during casting if not louder than Tasteless.


Then how do you explain the fact that a page or so ago day9 straight up said it wasn't smoking.

I'd imagine he knows a bit more about tasteless than you do
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Laquendi
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland35 Posts
August 29 2011 13:37 GMT
#285
On August 29 2011 19:11 BFCrimson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 18:58 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On August 29 2011 18:47 BFCrimson wrote:
On August 29 2011 18:42 LtCalley wrote:
tasteless acts/talks like a stoner a lot IMO. lol not saying it's bad thing, that is just my observation


Think he used to smoke a lot but I hear its much stricter in Korea as far as that goes so I figure he doesn't as much now. I think I remember him posting happy 420 in the long ago days when he still posted on TL

thats false. close to 50% of the male south korean population smokes. and cigarettes are really cheap and readily available. tasteless does smoke alot.


If you took the time to read the quote, I was clearly refering to marijuana. And to the poster above you I never said a word about how it may have affected his voice, was just responding to the guy I quoted. Anyways....


Non-native english speakers might not know drug related slang since it's not exactly taught in schools.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
August 29 2011 13:40 GMT
#286
On August 29 2011 22:27 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 21:26 AikaEU wrote:
smoking has nothing to do with his voice change. just too much casting.


Then how do you explain the fact that Artosis still sounds as good as he did ten years ago? Artosis is just as loud during casting if not louder than Tasteless.

Tasteless does smoke, but some people's vocal cords are weaker than others. Day9 always loses his voice during MLG, so does Tasteless. They're not able to keep going like Artosis or Husky as long.
the farm ends here
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
August 29 2011 13:46 GMT
#287
On August 29 2011 22:37 Laquendi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 19:11 BFCrimson wrote:
On August 29 2011 18:58 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
On August 29 2011 18:47 BFCrimson wrote:
On August 29 2011 18:42 LtCalley wrote:
tasteless acts/talks like a stoner a lot IMO. lol not saying it's bad thing, that is just my observation


Think he used to smoke a lot but I hear its much stricter in Korea as far as that goes so I figure he doesn't as much now. I think I remember him posting happy 420 in the long ago days when he still posted on TL

thats false. close to 50% of the male south korean population smokes. and cigarettes are really cheap and readily available. tasteless does smoke alot.


If you took the time to read the quote, I was clearly refering to marijuana. And to the poster above you I never said a word about how it may have affected his voice, was just responding to the guy I quoted. Anyways....


Non-native english speakers might not know drug related slang since it's not exactly taught in schools.


So if you don't know what a stoner is, atleast that's what I think is what you refer to as "drug related slang", why don't you look it up or ask instead of making an assumption that may or may not be falls. Just make sure you know what you are doing before you post, if I don't fucking know what someone is talking about then I don't respond to it.

OT: A shit lot of smoking can make your voice deeper and what not, but listening to tasteless it's quiet obvious that he doesn't treat his voice the way someone who talks that much should. Yes smoking doesn't help it at all, but it sure as hell isn't the reason for it. Smoking is a bad habit and may (or may not) cause cancer and what not, but it sure isn't the thing to blame for everything. Oh and talking about stonercaster, there is a reason why djwheat is called djwheat, why day 9 has red eyes every second daily and at every event he casts and why tastosis sometimes giggle like little girls.
pryde089
Profile Joined August 2011
England7 Posts
August 29 2011 13:46 GMT
#288
I think Day9 said it all really. Years of casting, sometimes not in optimal situations with poor equipment has took a toll on his voice. However, I've never once considered his voice unpleasant to listen to. I really enjoy his casts and I'm sure he's well aware on how to preserve his voice. He doesn't need you idiots posting "OMG STOP SMOKING" - that isn't gonna help things.

If you're reading this thread Tasteless, I just wanna let you know that my ears will follow your casts to the end of the earth. Keep it up!
fly you fools ;p - Gandalf
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
August 29 2011 13:49 GMT
#289
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 29 2011 22:46 Lorch wrote:


So if you don't know what a stoner is, atleast that's what I think is what you refer to as "drug related slang", why don't you look it up or ask instead of making an assumption that may or may not be falls. Just make sure you know what you are doing before you post, if I don't fucking know what someone is talking about then I don't respond to it.

OT: A shit lot of smoking can make your voice deeper and what not, but listening to tasteless it's quiet obvious that he doesn't treat his voice the way someone who talks that much should. Yes smoking doesn't help it at all, but it sure as hell isn't the reason for it. Smoking is a bad habit and may (or may not) cause cancer and what not, but it sure isn't the thing to blame for everything. Oh and talking about stonercaster, there is a reason why djwheat is called djwheat, why day 9 has red eyes every second daily and at every event he casts and why tastosis sometimes giggle like little girls.


This is getting really offtopic, but I highly doubt Artosis or Tasteless would come to work stoned, even less in Korea of all places.
(The general sentiment is that there are close to no drugs in Korea due to strict laws and relative isolation, not sure how accurate that is though. I've never been there.)


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Attican
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark531 Posts
August 29 2011 13:52 GMT
#290
Slightly off topic but does anyone else think Tasteless sounds like Seth Rogen, or am I utterly alone?
lowkontrast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States855 Posts
August 29 2011 13:52 GMT
#291
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
August 29 2011 13:55 GMT
#292
On August 29 2011 22:52 Attican wrote:
Slightly off topic but does anyone else think Tasteless sounds like Seth Rogen, or am I utterly alone?


He kinda does (:
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tripledoubles
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia213 Posts
August 29 2011 14:48 GMT
#293
As an ex 7 year smoker, I can say without a doubt it does things to your voice. After 8 months quit my voice is a little less raspy especially in the morning, but I can tell you now that it is not the main reason for his voice change
Trinz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia72 Posts
August 29 2011 14:58 GMT
#294
On August 29 2011 22:52 Attican wrote:
Slightly off topic but does anyone else think Tasteless sounds like Seth Rogen, or am I utterly alone?


No Seth Rogen tries to sound like Tasteless because he is a wannabe baller
AdriftSC
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden66 Posts
August 29 2011 15:00 GMT
#295
Haha the picture. ^ smoking is bad....m'kay?
Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
August 29 2011 15:00 GMT
#296
On August 29 2011 22:52 lowkontrast wrote:
[image loading]


LOL
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 29 2011 15:02 GMT
#297
Silly now. Not really going anywhere.
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