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Fro5tByt3
United States2 Posts
I was 18 bronze last week. After watching some Day9 Daily and learning some stuff, I ended up rank 5 for last season. I played my placement match and destroyed a zerg with some 4gate/transition to voids and phoenix queen harass (learned from Day9, also). Now I'm bronze again (68?). This doesn't make sense to me, even after reading this whole thread. When will I be promoted? | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On March 30 2011 03:05 GertHeart wrote: I find this reason odd only because I played WoW and like everyone in WoW I killed and hunted newbs for fun sometimes. Then again I solo farmed World PVP kills too =) I think I quit WoW with 40,000+ kills (Including BG's World kills I think were about 2k+) It only counts honorable kills of course. That's a cool story but this is SC2... A different game. In CS some servers you type in /resetscore and you get a fresh 0-0... But that's neither here nor there. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On March 30 2011 03:19 Zlasher wrote: Yeah no shit but that doesn't make it any less stupid of a reason. Doing this makes it so you can never really change races effectively or try out any sort of builds in a ladder setting without spending 50 bucks. Just play the new race and win or lose. I don't get why you are trying to do this.... | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12267 Posts
On March 30 2011 03:46 Fro5tByt3 wrote: I guess I don't really understand the MMR - I was 18 bronze last week. After watching some Day9 Daily and learning some stuff, I ended up rank 5 for last season. I played my placement match and destroyed a zerg with some 4gate/transition to voids and phoenix queen harass (learned from Day9, also). Now I'm bronze again (68?). This doesn't make sense to me, even after reading this whole thread. When will I be promoted? What's there to understand? Your division rank is decided by points and everyone's points were reset to zero. So, get more points to improve your division rank. | ||
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Fro5tByt3
United States2 Posts
What's the point of a placement match if, when you win, you don't get a promotion? | ||
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EnderDC
United States7 Posts
On March 30 2011 04:01 Fro5tByt3 wrote: I guess I was expecting a promotion for winning my placement match. What's the point of a placement match if, when you win, you don't get a promotion? The placement match at the beginning of season 2 is sort of a formality, your league is still based on the hidden behind-the-scenes MMR rating that carries over from last season. You'll get promoted when Battle.net thinks you've stabilized; it can happen anytime. As has been said, your rank in the division will go up as you earn points - but just keep winning and you'll be in Silver before long. | ||
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Westy
England808 Posts
Should I be promoted after the reset? | ||
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Crackensan
United States479 Posts
Remember there are certainly some terrible Master/Diamon level players out there that have 1 build, and cannot adjust, strategize well. (Piqliq, CombatEX, ect....) | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On March 30 2011 03:46 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Just play the new race and win or lose. I don't get why you are trying to do this.... You're the CEO over a server where 99% of people never used their real name when laddering, and every famous player ever made smurfs to practice new builds and refine play with people their level when trying out new stuff. You really don't get it? | ||
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laLAlA[uC]
Canada963 Posts
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:09 laLAlA[uC] wrote: It's now possible to be placed in Master via the 5 placement match method. Meaning that if you get initially placed in diamond after 1 game, you can get promoted again after doing well in the subsequent 4? | ||
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tensionz
United States130 Posts
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On March 30 2011 03:46 Fro5tByt3 wrote: I guess I don't really understand the MMR - I was 18 bronze last week. After watching some Day9 Daily and learning some stuff, I ended up rank 5 for last season. I played my placement match and destroyed a zerg with some 4gate/transition to voids and phoenix queen harass (learned from Day9, also). Now I'm bronze again (68?). This doesn't make sense to me, even after reading this whole thread. Especially in Bronze, but also in Silver-Platinum, activity (and thus using up bonus points) was most of what got the top players in divisions to the top of the list. So, what's happened is that the top 5-10 players of every division, the ones who are still playing, are being skimmed off the top and reorganized into new divisions full of active players who have played their one placement match. Going from #5 to #68 is perfectly normal, because the vast majority of those 95 people who were below you aren't going to be playing their one placement match, ever. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:52 Zlasher wrote: You're the CEO over a server where 99% of people never used their real name when laddering, and every famous player ever made smurfs to practice new builds and refine play with people their level when trying out new stuff. You really don't get it? Actually I just run iCCup TV. Not iCCup. Like I SO wish there was an option to have separate ladder rankings/mmr per race like anyone but at this point it's not here. I was always against /clearstats as it just made the lower leagues hell. So instead of wasting time throwing 50 games, why not play the 50, lose most of them presumably but learn very quickly and have GREAT replays to highlight your holes with the race. I know you and I assume you are decent enough to grasp the basics of the race right away. It's not like you're going to pick Zerg (no idea what you are right now), and go "huh whats the flying blobs things. Oh, they seem to be called Overlords, wonder what they do?" No, as much of a fan as you are you will know basic builds, race specific strategies and micro tricks, current metagame info for all MU's, and much much more. Having those replays or high level players abusing you will show you the specific points you need to work on. | ||
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DemiAlbedo
Canada69 Posts
Meaning that if you get initially placed in diamond after 1 game, you can get promoted again after doing well in the subsequent 4? I do not believe so. If you played Starcraft 2 from session one you only have to play one placement match and you are immediately placed within a division. If you are a new Starcraft 2 player you still have to play 5 placement matches in order for the system to determine where you should be placed. I believe what the other gentlemen was referring to is that new players can get placed into masters immediately if they do well on their 5 placement matches ( I don't know if that is true or not). I believe back in Session one you could only get promoted straight to platinum, but not diamond even if you won all 5 placement matches. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:15 iCCup.Diamond wrote: Actually I just run iCCup TV. Not iCCup. Like I SO wish there was an option to have separate ladder rankings/mmr per race like anyone but at this point it's not here. I was always against /clearstats as it just made the lower leagues hell. So instead of wasting time throwing 50 games, why not play the 50, lose most of them presumably but learn very quickly and have GREAT replays to highlight your holes with the race. I know you and I assume you are decent enough to grasp the basics of the race right away. It's not like you're going to pick Zerg (no idea what you are right now), and go "huh whats the flying blobs things. Oh, they seem to be called Overlords, wonder what they do?" No, as much of a fan as you are you will know basic builds, race specific strategies and micro tricks, current metagame info for all MU's, and much much more. Having those replays or high level players abusing you will show you the specific points you need to work on. Yeah, well heres my problem is that it took me like 4 months to get from originally copper league to diamond league. I can't imagine I'll be able to magically pick up Protoss and get everything down in time, instead I'm just going to move to a level where i feel comfortable 1) Nuke rushing, mass ravens, mass hellions, BC rush's 2) Can still play Protoss and win. Not gonna lie, I like winning, and I like just playing at 35 APM once in a while but still winning, instead of actually having to go 100 apm and executing the same plays over and over again just to scrap out a 50% win rate, because quite frankly its just not fun. | ||
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Westy
England808 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:26 Zlasher wrote: Yeah, well heres my problem is that it took me like 4 months to get from originally copper league to diamond league. I can't imagine I'll be able to magically pick up Protoss and get everything down in time, instead I'm just going to move to a level where i feel comfortable 1) Nuke rushing, mass ravens, mass hellions, BC rush's 2) Can still play Protoss and win. Not gonna lie, I like winning, and I like just playing at 35 APM once in a while but still winning, instead of actually having to go 100 apm and executing the same plays over and over again just to scrap out a 50% win rate, because quite frankly its just not fun. Did you know you can join custom games? Just join a open 1v1 game, 90% of the time its bronze level players. | ||
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
On March 30 2011 06:30 Westy wrote: Did you know you can join custom games? Just join a open 1v1 game, 90% of the time its bronze level players. haha I didn't know this. get ready to be stomped you bronze fucks. nah I'll still give them the win after I nuke them 50 times, I'm nice like that. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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ChewbroCColi
Denmark108 Posts
Does anyone know if its mmr based or top 200 points based? Would be nice to know.  | ||
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