EPTShould players lose points for inactivity? - Page 3
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joshboy42
Australia116 Posts
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mmm
Germany40 Posts
that after some time of inactivity you should slowly lose points as long as the mmr stays the same(!). Edit: the reason for this is that you shouldn´t be forced to be uberactive to play at your given skilllevel Edit2: And you could regain your points very fast since your opponends would be favored for a long time (mmr >> points) | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
On March 24 2011 16:37 Grebliv wrote: war3 had decay sc2 has bonus pool ("reverse decay") I wouldnt mind if they took out bonus pool and added decay to be honest. I think that the bonus pool is more rewarding for being inactive then decay was obviously. | ||
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SugarBear
United States842 Posts
On March 24 2011 15:42 Nimic wrote: The rank does take into account inactivity. Indirectly, with bonus points. If they're a thousand points ahead of you, they've either played a lot more games than you or they're a lot better than you. If you were as good as them and had played as many games as them, you would almost certainly be ahead, since they would miss out on a lot of new bonus pool. Exactly. I ended the season with over 2k bonus pool and was rank 29 in my division. Realistically I could've been first or second if I'd been more active (actually I probably would've been promoted to master league, but that's beside the point). Also I don't think the system should punish you for having a life. If you get stuck at work or a new game comes out that takes away your attention for a few weeks you shouldn't come back with 0 points or be in bronze league. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
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reddog1999
United States143 Posts
the results are most likly you won't get back into the game. Back when 1000 pts in diamond was around the top I stopped playing and when I came back later what I found was that my hidden mmr was no longer 1000 it was going up with everyone else who was still playing. So now that I was say rank 30 with 1000 pts I was pairing up with people that were 2300 in pts and in alot of case's I was = or favored. Even for me this has made it much harder for me to continue to play the game because I don't play much when I know im going to play people from 3k masters to 3400 masters. Sorry if i am not very clear, I just know many people who say are in gold- low level masters would be intimidated to play if they even took say two weeks off because they will keep moving up with the people they are currently being paired with. And with some of blizzards new changes to bnet it seems like they don't want people to be afraid to play ( taking loses away) and this is something that has made me not play quite as much 1v1 ladder because I am rusty and have to play at the same level i used to play at. | ||
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SirazTV
United States209 Posts
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
So we need a "reverse bonus point" ... penalty points for inactivity, which can be negated by bonus points you only get for this specific goal and once you have filled up this loss through bonus points there arent any new ones. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
 I think the ladder should be about skill, and not about whos more active. So leave it like it is | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
If the player has not been playing , it is good to assume that his skill is decaying. It is not fair that someone who mastered 1 build during the opening weeks get very high mmr and then he stopped playing and thus he has not mastered anything else but yet still keep his MMR | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On March 24 2011 15:42 Nimic wrote: The rank does take into account inactivity. Indirectly, with bonus points. If they're a thousand points ahead of you, they've either played a lot more games than you or they're a lot better than you. If you were as good as them and had played as many games as them, you would almost certainly be ahead, since they would miss out on a lot of new bonus pool. This exactly. losing points would also be a negative reinforcement for returning after a break. | ||
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LambtrOn
United States671 Posts
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murkk
Canada154 Posts
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Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
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gamefan15
50 Posts
..then I went more inactive and followed starcraft 2 more from the fan and spectator point of view. for me it just feels weird when I enter the game after I didnt play a long period of time and I am still diamond and at first get matched vs people I could compete during the time I was active. it also bothers me that I keep remaining diamond (because of the bonus pool I guess) and then lose vs platin players while I try to get back into the game and they probably think "yeah I own a diamond player" for me it would be even better to start from the beginning or have some reset options availabe after some time of inactivity. I feel that would also give you more freedom to consider race switches when you get bored. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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faulty
Canada204 Posts
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DeamonMachine
United States28 Posts
For this reason: If Idra stopped playing for 3 months, and got bumped down to say Silver (spectulation) then how would that be fair for the silver players who had to get stomped by idra making his way back to the top. How would it be fair for any of the active players to basically be given losses because they get paired with a Grand Master level player who has been gone. That is one of the biggest reasons they shouldn't do the decay. | ||
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