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I am ranked 6th in my Gold division. Of they "Top 8" in my division I am the only one that has played 1v1 in the last week. Some haven't played in 2 or even 6 weeks, and one hasn't played in 21 weeks.
The player ranked 1st in my division hasn't played in 10 weeks, yet he has over a thousand more points than me.
Now, hopefully I get promoted before I earn another thousand points, but the new "awards" and season change has got me thinking: Should players lose points for inactivity?
If this were the case, I believe that I would be 2nd in my division. To me that seems right, given that I am an active player. Should someone who hasn't played in 21 weeks get a "Top 8" award? Should someone that hasn't played in 10 weeks still be first?
It seems to me that division rank should take into account player activity? What do you think?
(remember, something similar will be happening in the Grandmasters league as players who get too much bonus pool will be kicked out)
Poll: Should players lose points for inactivity? No (392) 75% Yes (130) 25% 522 total votes Your vote: Should players lose points for inactivity? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
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I stopped playing months ago and I'm probably taking up some poor guys spot.
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Yes, absolutely, I don't think someone should keep their ELO in a Master's Division if they havn't played for weeks. You should also gradually get dropped in League if you are inactive long enough (Months).
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The rank does take into account inactivity. Indirectly, with bonus points. If they're a thousand points ahead of you, they've either played a lot more games than you or they're a lot better than you. If you were as good as them and had played as many games as them, you would almost certainly be ahead, since they would miss out on a lot of new bonus pool.
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My thought is it doesnt matter anyway because division rank means absolutely nothing. But i dont really think a player should lose points for inactivity, thats the point of the bonus pool. Once you hit your "skill cap" you wont get promoted as often and you will burn your bonus pool in a league at which point inactives wont be higher than you :D
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On March 24 2011 15:42 Nimic wrote:
The rank does take into account inactivity. Indirectly, with bonus points. If they're a thousand points ahead of you, they've either played a lot more games than you or they're a lot better than you. If you were as good as them and had played as many games as them, you would almost certainly be ahead, since they would miss out on a lot of new bonus pool.
This pretty much.
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Spot doesnt matter anyway. Why You have to suffer because u dont want to play? You earn the points, they're youres. And thats it. In gettting to higher leagues poins do not matter at all.
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They do, it's called bonus pool. If you don't play your not collecting it and hence will be lower than other people who do. Instead of removing points, they give you points for playing to make you feel special.  Which I wish they wouldn't. I have 2.3k bonus pool. What the hell am I going to do with that? anyone buying?
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division rank means absolutely nothing. say we're in the same league with the same points. in my division you would be ranked 10th but in your division you're ranked 5th. who's the better player? Grandmasters will be the league that drops players for inactivity. there's really no point to do so in other leagues.
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Fuck no they shouldnt take away points from inactive players. I go months without playing because of school, and i wouldnt want to be punished for it. Use your bonus points and get ahead, thats all.
*edit* have 2.5k bonus points in 1s, and moved up 400 points in around 12 games in diamond. Since its spring break i finally have some time to play
**edit 2** also stomping high diamonds (3k+) because i am way under ranked from not constantly laddering.
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They are ranked higher for a reason. If they were able to get that high ranked in that much time, imagine if they played while you did too. If you deserve to be there, you will be.
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Another way will be bonus pool accumulates at a slower speed if you have not laddered for a week or more. Bonus pool should also replenish faster if you have 200 or lesser in your pool.
At the current rate, its 1 point per 112min as of when the season officially starts.
For example, if a player is inactive, they can maybe gain 1point per 180minutes. And if a player is very active and have a pool of 200 points or lesser, they gain 1 point per 56mintues.
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inactive = not using bonus pool = losing points relative to active players...
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Hell no, I've been sitting on my 1337 point diamond league rating since like a month before they implemented the master's league, do you know how many games i had to throw to get it to line up that precisely before I retired? =(
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Inactive players are already losing practice time. When they do play they will probably lose more than they would initially compared to active players.
That's punishment enough.
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On March 24 2011 15:43 Sensator wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 15:42 Nimic wrote:
The rank does take into account inactivity. Indirectly, with bonus points. If they're a thousand points ahead of you, they've either played a lot more games than you or they're a lot better than you. If you were as good as them and had played as many games as them, you would almost certainly be ahead, since they would miss out on a lot of new bonus pool. This pretty much.
yep
i do think it should demote you from your league eventually though. i hate kids who place into dia/master then never play again because they're RT scrubs who are too scared to etc etc
but that's just me
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On March 24 2011 16:30 Vei wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 15:43 Sensator wrote:On March 24 2011 15:42 Nimic wrote:
The rank does take into account inactivity. Indirectly, with bonus points. If they're a thousand points ahead of you, they've either played a lot more games than you or they're a lot better than you. If you were as good as them and had played as many games as them, you would almost certainly be ahead, since they would miss out on a lot of new bonus pool. This pretty much. yep i do think it should demote you from your league eventually though. i hate kids who place into dia/master then never play again because they're RT scrubs who are too scared to etc etc but that's just me
I'm pretty much exactly the type of player you hate, but to be honest, for some of us, there's just no point in playing if you can't be the best. If I can't be competitive within the top 200 in NA, or at the top of the arena ladder in WoW, I just won't bother to play, and I'm too old to put in the time practicing SC2 and building my mechanics up to get to that level. Rather than wallow in mediocrity in the 3k master's range, I'd rather just stick to WoW, where years of experience and very low mechanical requirements mean that I can play once a week and still easily compete with top-tier players.
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i dont think its fair to people that are actually busy.
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war3 had decay
sc2 has bonus pool ("reverse decay")
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On March 24 2011 16:22 TzTz wrote:
inactive = not using bonus pool = losing points relative to active players...
Exactly.
If the inactive guy still has 1000 points more than you even though he is not using his bonus pool, he is better than you.
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EPT
