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Oh noes!
Even real humans look silly when a stick figure is drawn inside them!
Marines always looked weird... now I know why. - Page 6
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morimacil
France921 Posts
Oh noes! Even real humans look silly when a stick figure is drawn inside them! | ||
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ThE_OsToJiY
Canada1167 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
EDIT: @morimacil you may make fun the anatomical diagram I commissioned for my post, but I feel like it got the point across fairly well, even if some artistic license was sacrificed on the altar of medical accuracy. Seriously though, I think it does get the point across. | ||
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orotoss
United States298 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13379 Posts
I for one agree, its impossible but no big deal since I suspend my disbelief I mean, how do they create marines from barracks in only seconds!? Zerg evolves - makes sense. Protoss come warp in - makes sense. Terran - magically born human beings are instantly mature and placed in super suits that only cost 50 minerals to make instantly inside of a barracks? ... idk man idk. Can't say they live in the Rax, since how come a reactor means two come out at the same time? Does the reactor make the doors double wide so 2 can fit through at once? I don't man I just don't know :o | ||
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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morimacil
France921 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img696.imageshack.us/i/bodybuildingmarine.jpg/) Right, they have wide chests and long arms... but look at the amount of space, say in the above picture, between the biceps and the chest. There isn't enough room for the plate armor and huge shoulder pads that are part of the marine suit; Well true, there isnt much space between this guy's biceps and his chest. But then again, if you look at the marine armor, you will notice that they dont have upper arms, they just have really big shoulderpads. These shoulderpads are connected to the body through 50% of the torso. So a human could fit his shoulder and upper arm in there, even if his arms werent hanging perfectly straight down. @morimacil you may make fun the anatomical diagram I commissioned for my post, but I feel like it got the point across fairly well, even if some artistic license was sacrificed on the altar of medical accuracy. Seriously though, I think it does get the point across. Well I wont deny that it gets your point across. But I also wouldnt call it medically accurate  I mean, your stick figure has shoulders that are barely wider than his head. Shoulder breadth seems to be closer to 3 times the size of the head, which is what your drawing represents when you fit the stickman inside the marine costume in your original diagram. I think that the reason it looks strange when you try to fit a stickman inside the marine costume, isnt because the proportions are off, but rather because we are acustomed to seeing stickmen without shoulders, or with very slender ones. + Show Spoiler + This is the kind of stickman we are used to looking at, not stickmen drawn to human proportions. ![[image loading]](http://lilsweetnotes.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/stickman.jpg) And thus when you see a stickman with human proportions, it doesnt really look right. | ||
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BlazedHydra
United States67 Posts
On March 19 2011 08:02 Honeybadger wrote: I don't know about you, but here in seattle, we're all ripped, ten feet tall and have flowing hair, sexy space cowboy voices and a bone to pick with the establishment. Wait. We're actually just hipsters that ride fixies and drink pabst. FML. having lived in seattle for the last few years i thought this was exceptionally funny. ^^ + i cant believe this is important enough to discuss lol. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
On March 19 2011 09:24 ZeromuS wrote: LOL blazing, well done with the thread well done and Maru the paint guy? HAHA! very very funny :p I for one agree, its impossible but no big deal since I suspend my disbelief I mean, how do they create marines from barracks in only seconds!? Another fun fact is that even though marines live in Rax, and in theory sleep, eat, and use the facilities there, after they initially leave the racks THEY NEVER GO BACK(S). Even the protoss warp-in seems weird. Why does the warpgate pylon fields warping tech work for gateway units but not aircraft or robotics units? If its about size (say, immortals are too big), why not observers? Why does researching some sort of upgrade (like armor or shields) affect warriors that have been chilling for a while at home and are waiting to be warped in? etc etc. I'm entirely willing to suspend my disbelief over Terran Marine shoulders... I mean, I play Terran and love Marines, but still, man-- it is a little lover the top. It's far less noticeable in game, I think, than it is in cutscenes-- you're usually so zoomed out from Marines and the units around them are usually so much bigger that you don't notice. btw I like how Fredow is on the first page of the confusing /awesome BM thread. PEJ 4 eva. | ||
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rO_Or
United States306 Posts
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
On March 19 2011 06:14 TedJustice wrote: The zerg DO have super strength. A single zergling is probably stronger than a rhino. The thing about that though is that in a cinematic in the original Starcraft a zergling gets hit and killed by a car. So, either they've been retconned or zerglings have gotten massively stronger without changing much in size. | ||
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Lochat
United States270 Posts
On March 19 2011 05:18 Gudeldar wrote: 40k is Warhammer in space and Warhammer is a rip off of Tolkein. That's a joke, right? | ||
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Lochat
United States270 Posts
On March 19 2011 09:24 ZeromuS wrote: LOL blazing, well done with the thread well done and Maru the paint guy? HAHA! very very funny :p I for one agree, its impossible but no big deal since I suspend my disbelief I mean, how do they create marines from barracks in only seconds!? Zerg evolves - makes sense. Protoss come warp in - makes sense. Terran - magically born human beings are instantly mature and placed in super suits that only cost 50 minerals to make instantly inside of a barracks? ... idk man idk. Can't say they live in the Rax, since how come a reactor means two come out at the same time? Does the reactor make the doors double wide so 2 can fit through at once? I don't man I just don't know :o One of Huxley's book has something to say about that, sir. Brave New World was the Terran marine blueprint. | ||
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SkCom
Canada229 Posts
thanks to your friends super hq high-tech schematics the problem is obvious what monsters! | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On March 19 2011 10:34 Attican wrote: The thing about that though is that in a cinematic in the original Starcraft a zergling gets hit and killed by a car. So, either they've been retconned or zerglings have gotten massively stronger without changing much in size. Doncha 'member? That's a zergling Lester, smaller type 'f zerg. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
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HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
On March 19 2011 09:37 morimacil wrote: Heres another one, it really doesnt look that far fetched. + Show Spoiler + This has to be one of the most hilarious photoshops I've seen on TL in a long time. I'm also confused as to why the OP finds the beefy marine strange; Starcraft lifted this aesthetic from Warhammer 40k. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.wouldyoukindly.com/wp-content/uploads/space-marine-picture-02.jpg) It's not supposed to be realistic. Have you played a video game in the last 20 years? Tons of games and forms of media do the impossibly beefy dude. Unreal games come to mind. | ||
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
On March 19 2011 11:12 Blazinghand wrote: Indeed. It's possible that the zergling was just stunned, and not dead, as well. There certainly was a good deal of retcon between SC1/BW and SC2, so I'm not sure BW references will be legitimate in arguing over the realism of the SC2 marine proportions. You're probably right. I personally just think the marine suit just looks too big/too heavily armored to be destroyed by something like a zergling | ||
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
On March 19 2011 11:18 HawaiianPig wrote: This has to be one of the most hilarious photoshops I've seen on TL in a long time. I'm also confused as to why the OP finds the beefy marine strange; Starcraft lifted this aesthetic from Warhammer 40k. + Show Spoiler + It's not supposed to be realistic. Have you played a video game in the last 20 years? Tons of games and forms of media do the impossibly beefy dude. Unreal games come to mind. Space Marines get all sorts of enhancements in the process of becoming a marine, so it's perfectly reasonable to assume that their body shape changes to allow them to fit in that armor. So at least with Warhammer 40K it makes sense because they bother to explain something like this. | ||
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