EPTNow, I can see why Blizzard wants money out of this.
Blizz no want money. IP protection for their baby sc2.
E-stars Seoul pulls out Blizzard games - Page 6
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
Blizz no want money. IP protection for their baby sc2. | ||
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Axeinst
Belize281 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On March 04 2011 13:36 Lokian wrote: Blizz not want more money but more IP protection for their baby sc2. At the end of the day, they want money. What does "more IP protection for their baby sc2" mean for them anyway? This is business, everything for money. I am saying like it is, we saw JVC's VHS technology winning against a superior Sony Betamax technology in history. Why? Because JVC gave license to everybody who wants to make it, and consequently, VHS price and availability was great for consumers, compared to Sony's who kept the technology to themselves being too greedy, and making it expensive and unavailable. Blizzard is doing the same here. They are keeping this game to themselves, controlling every aspect of it. If there was any decent competitor, even if the game was inferior to SC2, the TV stations would gladly take it and advertise it. The price of the game, the price of the viewing would go down (price advantage) and it would be available everywhere (youtube, TV etc.). Blizzard would be left with nothing even if they created a better game. These idiots obviously don't learn from history, and of course, also they don't see any competitor around. Just lately we saw Sony's BluRay win against Toshiba's HD DVDs. Now that Sony learned from their past Betamax mistake, they could push their more expensive product to public through tricks. I love watching SC2, but I am goddamn tired of these idiots at Blizzard. You charge $60 for a game, you sell millions of copies, what the fuck do you want more you greedy bastards? | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On March 04 2011 13:43 Lokian wrote: In all seriousness, of course companies want to make money, but they need to protect their games too. How much can they hope to get from their IP war? -_- Blizzard is bigger than that and they clearly stated that protecting their IP is more important than milking money... That's a great point there. How much money will they get from this? I don't see them getting too much really. They are selling the game to millions, bringing a new game every 2 years and these competitions and hype keeps their sales strong. Their main job is not to mess up what there is, instead, go mainstream, i.e. youtube, TV channels etc. with the game. Yet, they are milking $5-10/month from online viewers. That probably even doesn't cover expenses. What's wrong with these idiots I don't know. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
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UruzuNine
Canada162 Posts
On March 04 2011 13:47 Xxavi wrote: That's a great point there. How much money will they get from this? I don't see them getting too much really. They are selling the game to millions, bringing a new game every 2 years and these competitions and hype keeps their sales strong. Their main job is not to mess up what there is, instead, go mainstream, i.e. youtube, TV channels etc. with the game. Yet, they are milking $5-10/month from online viewers. That probably even doesn't cover expenses. What's wrong with these idiots I don't know. Seems like you don't have a solid understanding of the topic when you go blending Gretech and Blizzard together. Blizzard doesn't make anything (directly) from online viewers. It makes money from selling its games and protecting its IP rights. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
Blizzard, wants SC2 to succeed and loves the free publicity of tournaments. Kespa and other korean actors want to do their thing without blizzard putting their dick in it, and thus tries to stand up to the "big man" blizzard. Problem is, Blizzard has WoW as a cashcow so they have absolutely no reason to back down... whereas Kespa and whatever will get eaten alive because they WILL lose the lawsuit and they have everything to lose: Blizzard may lose tournaments, kespa might die. | ||
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Gak2
Canada418 Posts
Would Blizzard rather not have the whole korean bw scene started in the first place? Because I could imagine a scenario that went like this many years ago: Kespa (for lack of a better representative): "Hey blizzard, we're gonna try and start a big starcraft scene here in korea, you don't mind do you? We're not sure if it's gonna be really successful or not" Blizzard: "Yeah sure! That would be great! Anything for more publicity" ... fast forward to the present Blizzard: "Ok.. so now that your thing is successful and making money and stuff... we want a cut of it since you know, it IS our game" This is kind of a dick move on blizzard's part imo, even if it is within their rights to do so. | ||
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On March 04 2011 14:26 tyCe wrote: Well, in short, I think KesPa's motivation is money and Blizzard's motivation is rights. Kespa is a non-profit organisation. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Not all non-profit organizations don't make money (see: many medical care facilities in the US) - and its not as if employees of kespa don't come home with a check every day. Clearly money is probably in the forefront of their minds when dealing with blizzard. However, it's foolish to think money isn't the forefront of blizzard's minds either. This dispute if financial, on both ends. Neither truly has the moral high ground in my opinion. | ||
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On March 04 2011 15:25 Comeh wrote: Not all non-profit organizations don't make money (see: many medical care facilities in the US) - and its not as if employees of kespa don't come home with a check every day. Clearly money is probably in the forefront of their minds when dealing with blizzard. However, it's foolish to think money isn't the forefront of blizzard's minds either. This dispute if financial, on both ends. Neither truly has the moral high ground in my opinion. They do make money but not for themselves, you know, like as in they use it to help pursue their goal, which would be the consistency of esports. | ||
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Drium
United States888 Posts
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Aus.Force
Australia1278 Posts
 then you will see where the numbers tourn out  | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
But on a more serious note, this may be good for e-sports in general if Blizzard can spread it elsewhere in the world rather than just in Korea. But again, it seems like the Korean culture has a completely different mindset on playing video games. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On March 04 2011 15:07 Gak2 wrote: I think of it like this: Would Blizzard rather not have the whole korean bw scene started in the first place? Because I could imagine a scenario that went like this many years ago: Kespa (for lack of a better representative): "Hey blizzard, we're gonna try and start a big starcraft scene here in korea, you don't mind do you? We're not sure if it's gonna be really successful or not" Blizzard: "Yeah sure! That would be great! Anything for more publicity" ... fast forward to the present Blizzard: "Ok.. so now that your thing is successful and making money and stuff... we want a cut of it since you know, it IS our game" This is kind of a dick move on blizzard's part imo, even if it is within their rights to do so. That is pretty much how it works though. Just look at YouTube, for example. Even stuff created years ago that use licensed music can be pulled off if it violates copyrights, etc. | ||
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
2008 'Blizzard' starts demanding for IP rights, money for stuff Activision is involved...-> it's about money | ||
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