EPTGSL 5: The Season of.... (spoiler) - Page 10
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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iSometric
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On March 02 2011 07:09 tyCe wrote: Can't believe you put July in the upset category. I'll vote option 1 and 3. Sure, there were some upsets, like NesTea and MVP. But seriously, who expected FD and MKP to go through in dominating fashion? What have those two players even done recently or what matches have those two played recently to suggest they are still the top of the top? Same with RainbOw, Genius, Zenio and InCa. With players like NaDa and July, they have already shown their champion mentality in the past with their BW achievements, so it was always likely IMO that they would be able to step it up a notch with every GSL. BoxeR was an emotional upset, not really an unexpected upset IMO as one can't really expect him to compete at the very top with the amount of other engagements he has nowadays. I agree about Fruitdealer, but MKP got to the finals of GSL2, came in place second in the GOM TV All-Stars, got to the Ro8 of GSL3 losing to MC, and lost to MVP in the finals of the January GSL. He's been by far one of the most consistent T's out there; I'd call him the Yellow/Stork of SC2 when it comes to getting silvers. His loss was a definite upset. | ||
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CookieMaker
Canada880 Posts
GSL2 was a perfect example of how nestea reacted to MKP to take the victory in a longer series. | ||
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iversonjack
Australia69 Posts
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iversonjack
Australia69 Posts
On March 02 2011 07:12 iSometric wrote: WHo knocked out Boxer? sanZenith and oGsEnsare got out, and Boxer and NesTea go to up and down matches | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On March 02 2011 07:12 iSometric wrote: WHo knocked out Boxer? Nestea, oGsEnsnare, SanZenith all beat Boxer | ||
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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Natengall
United States60 Posts
Oh man, Up and Down matches is a scary place to be this season. | ||
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Flik
Canada256 Posts
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Capitanpingaloca
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On March 02 2011 07:14 TheTenthDoc wrote: I agree about Fruitdealer, but MKP got to the finals of GSL2, came in place second in the GOM TV All-Stars, got to the Ro8 of GSL3 losing to MC, and lost to MVP in the finals of the January GSL. He's been by far one of the most consistent T's out there; I'd call him the Yellow/Stork of SC2 when it comes to getting silvers. His loss was a definite upset. Exactly, i could never understand why people hate on MKP so much after all that he has achieved. He does not brag about how good he is he lets tourney performances do the talking for him and i feel he should get some respect. Noone is or has been as consistant as he has. If his style is so gimicky and so easy like people make it out to be explain the consistentsy? you cant. If its so horrible people would have been raping him after his first succesful season. Sad to still see him as an underdog and watch him being hated on so much. There will always be haters i guess. | ||
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MK4512
Canada938 Posts
For example, if you have someone like nestea, he may know how to deal really well with alot of pressure due to small maps, but does he know how to deal with a much more passive early game with alot of new tech paths late game? | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
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Chise
Japan507 Posts
On March 02 2011 07:50 MK4512 wrote: I think that its the new maps. Maybe the previously better players don't quite know how to macro well on the new maps yet, its really a different style of play. For example, if you have someone like nestea, he may know how to deal really well with alot of pressure due to small maps, but does he know how to deal with a much more passive early game with alot of new tech paths late game? Well, Nestea lost on Shakuras Plateau. Don't remember the other map though. | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
Also GSL5 is the season of... less CHEESE!!! yeah f*ck you BitByBit!! | ||
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TERRANLOL
United States626 Posts
He hasn't really been dominating anything at all lately. I am surprised about these though: - IMMvp - oGsTOP - IMNesTea - SlayerS_BoxeR - choyafOu - NsPGenius - MarineKingPrime.WE | ||
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Zerokaiser
Canada885 Posts
On March 01 2011 23:24 GobIin wrote: Balanced is broken, thats why fruitdealer and nestea lost Fruitdealer is a pretty cool guy, but he's not really a big shot anymore. | ||
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EggYsc2
620 Posts
On March 02 2011 07:12 iSometric wrote: WHo knocked out Boxer? warp in storms | ||
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Voronoff
United States302 Posts
Let's do a thought experiment. For the sake of this, let's say that any match is 50-50 at it's core. The map changes effectively reset the field to this. The best players have and advantage in terms of pure mechanics, but due to being the best at the older playstyles, they have more to unlearn. In addition, the weaker players weren't likely to beat these players in a straight-up match, and so were forced to experiment with different styles, some of which became weaker on the new maps but some of which became significantly stronger. With time the better players will have more of an advantage - as everybody gets better, they will get better faster, widening the gap between themselves and everyone else again. But for now, you have a large number of matches that are close enough to a coin flip to not be terribly surprising that heads came up only a few times while tails came up a bunch. The sample size is small enough that while there may appear to be trending, there is no significance. TLDR: Now, I'm not saying that some players won't adapt and won't be on the top anymore. I'm not even saying that the games here were played on a lower level than previous games. All I'm trying to point out is that it would be almost as unlikely for all of the favorites to go through as to be knocked out, at this particular point in time, due to the map and playstyle changes being recent enough to not allow the best players to utilize their advantages. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
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