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Ridiculisk
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia191 Posts
March 02 2011 01:29 GMT
#221
If Jinro wins would he be the first foreigner to win GSL?

Would be really cool if Jinro could take out the season. Go go Jinro!

Anywho, IMO code A was awesome this season, some really strong players, and I think some of them are better than some of the code S guys to be honest.

I just can't wait to see more foreigners tearing up the Code A brackets. Need to get some more of the Europeans into the GSL. Would be cool to see some mouz guys or something in GSL.
TAhackdZ.379 - Sc2sea.com Article Writer
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
March 02 2011 01:32 GMT
#222
not sure why there's a thread about this lol, it's really just variance
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
March 02 2011 01:41 GMT
#223
The fall of champions.
Wishing you well.
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
March 02 2011 01:47 GMT
#224
Honestly I believe MVP and Nestea and MKP are the only ones who really got unlucky or eliminated cuz of cheese or under preforming. FD, Rainbow, Boxer and Genius were good for a season or 2 but they have fallen get over it. The rest of them for the most part are Ro32 players maybe 16 but its a one round difference so they are where they belong.
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 02 2011 01:53 GMT
#225
The world doesn't make sense to me anymore.

MKP
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
March 02 2011 02:04 GMT
#226
On March 02 2011 10:29 Ridiculisk wrote:
If Jinro wins would he be the first foreigner to win GSL?


Yeah, and I´m pretty sure the first foreigner to win a Starcraft tournament of this magnitude in Korea, financially for sure and I think skill wise as well. Feel free to correct me if I´m wrong people.

Personally though, I think some of the guys are being underrated. No, I didn´t predict SanZenith, but July is wicked sick HongUn is pretty damn good as well, same with Kyrix. I think Kyrix might´ve been the most underrated of them all, which I find Kind of surprising to be honest, as he´s shown a ton of great games won that allstar tournament or whatever it was, and is one of the pros that other pros had to adapt to in order to beat. He´s wicked sick.

Other than that, just bad luck on some guys part. I still think that Nestea, MVP and MKP are all amazing... I´m not so sure about Fruitdealer though.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
March 02 2011 02:10 GMT
#227
The round of 32 has made it Jinro's season to lose.

Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
March 02 2011 02:19 GMT
#228
First to hear here, its GSL winner is going to be Julyzerg or Jinro. July has been impressing me so much with his unpredictable play. He makes zerg fun to play kind of how Fruitdealer did in season 1. gogo fighting
Freebirdo7
Profile Joined February 2011
United States163 Posts
March 02 2011 02:24 GMT
#229
im thinking first 2 time winner this season

Go MC!
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 02:36:52
March 02 2011 02:35 GMT
#230
On March 02 2011 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Group G: Nothing particularly surprising here, again. What have Genius or Fruitdealer done recently? Fruitdealer has demonstrated since winning season 1 that he has a huge tendency to all-in, or respond to any unorthodox situation with some sort of haphazard aggression. He hasn't played well since season 1. This is not a surprise.

As for Genius, that's not too much of a shock either. He's never been able to show the results to match his talk.

Anypro is somewhat unknown, but the word around the scene right now is that he's pretty beastly.

Group H: I don't understand how you can consider Kyrix moving on to be a "surprise." He played one of the best ZvTs ever against MKP in what can be considered a series that strongly redefined the matchup. Once again, among four good players, two have to lose. What's so hard to understand about this?

I agree with your thoughts on most of Group A-F, but i Group G I was really thinking Genius would move on and I would consider it an upset. FD I didn't think had a chance given he has to face 3 Toss, but Genius is a decent player and up until today, Anypro had only beaten ONE person in his past 12 matches and that was Moon, anypro was on a 10 game losing streak before that...Anypro hasn't won a set essentially since GSL Season ONE...and though it's my opinion, I believe it was highly speculated by a lot of TL that the prime team was having fun in their GSL4 interviews when they ALL said "I fear anypro the most"...cause let's be serious, that's like someone saying "I fear SanZenith" pre-present day, there's a reason he was chosen by Tester to be in his group after all.

as for MKP I guess people are upset that he lost to sC most of all.
the farm ends here
Ratel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada184 Posts
March 02 2011 03:28 GMT
#231
I don't find sanZenith as an upset
just an opportunity to rise and show what he is capable of
for a casual gamer as he states he is he is doing amazingly well and i looking forward his games
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 03:29:25
March 02 2011 03:29 GMT
#232
Yeah, wow... finally watched the G group and i have to say I feel bad for FD. He was actually playing really well those games and just got caught in a bad angle in the 3rd game. It's the same thing that happens to every Zerg from time-to-time, but it was just rough to watch, FD really couldn't do anything to stop anypro from walking right over him...
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
March 02 2011 04:27 GMT
#233
On March 02 2011 11:35 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Group G: Nothing particularly surprising here, again. What have Genius or Fruitdealer done recently? Fruitdealer has demonstrated since winning season 1 that he has a huge tendency to all-in, or respond to any unorthodox situation with some sort of haphazard aggression. He hasn't played well since season 1. This is not a surprise.

As for Genius, that's not too much of a shock either. He's never been able to show the results to match his talk.

Anypro is somewhat unknown, but the word around the scene right now is that he's pretty beastly.

Group H: I don't understand how you can consider Kyrix moving on to be a "surprise." He played one of the best ZvTs ever against MKP in what can be considered a series that strongly redefined the matchup. Once again, among four good players, two have to lose. What's so hard to understand about this?

I agree with your thoughts on most of Group A-F, but i Group G I was really thinking Genius would move on and I would consider it an upset. FD I didn't think had a chance given he has to face 3 Toss, but Genius is a decent player and up until today, Anypro had only beaten ONE person in his past 12 matches and that was Moon, anypro was on a 10 game losing streak before that...Anypro hasn't won a set essentially since GSL Season ONE...and though it's my opinion, I believe it was highly speculated by a lot of TL that the prime team was having fun in their GSL4 interviews when they ALL said "I fear anypro the most"...cause let's be serious, that's like someone saying "I fear SanZenith" pre-present day, there's a reason he was chosen by Tester to be in his group after all.

as for MKP I guess people are upset that he lost to sC most of all.


For MKP:

The OP bolded Kyrix's advance (suggesting he thought it was a surprise)

Also, for SC: IMO MKP's TvT has never been good. I don't believe he should have ever taken a game off either Nada or Jinro, but both players gifted MKP series through their own mistakes.


CrAzEdBaDgEr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada166 Posts
March 02 2011 20:36 GMT
#234
On March 02 2011 13:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 11:35 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On March 02 2011 09:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Group G: Nothing particularly surprising here, again. What have Genius or Fruitdealer done recently? Fruitdealer has demonstrated since winning season 1 that he has a huge tendency to all-in, or respond to any unorthodox situation with some sort of haphazard aggression. He hasn't played well since season 1. This is not a surprise.

As for Genius, that's not too much of a shock either. He's never been able to show the results to match his talk.

Anypro is somewhat unknown, but the word around the scene right now is that he's pretty beastly.

Group H: I don't understand how you can consider Kyrix moving on to be a "surprise." He played one of the best ZvTs ever against MKP in what can be considered a series that strongly redefined the matchup. Once again, among four good players, two have to lose. What's so hard to understand about this?

I agree with your thoughts on most of Group A-F, but i Group G I was really thinking Genius would move on and I would consider it an upset. FD I didn't think had a chance given he has to face 3 Toss, but Genius is a decent player and up until today, Anypro had only beaten ONE person in his past 12 matches and that was Moon, anypro was on a 10 game losing streak before that...Anypro hasn't won a set essentially since GSL Season ONE...and though it's my opinion, I believe it was highly speculated by a lot of TL that the prime team was having fun in their GSL4 interviews when they ALL said "I fear anypro the most"...cause let's be serious, that's like someone saying "I fear SanZenith" pre-present day, there's a reason he was chosen by Tester to be in his group after all.

as for MKP I guess people are upset that he lost to sC most of all.


For MKP:

The OP bolded Kyrix's advance (suggesting he thought it was a surprise)

Also, for SC: IMO MKP's TvT has never been good. I don't believe he should have ever taken a game off either Nada or Jinro, but both players gifted MKP series through their own mistakes.




What's with all the MKP hate in this thread? He dominated Kyrix with a completely new-for-him and very rare style (5+ factory mech) and made a couple bad decisions in the other games. He is clearly one of the most talented players with top-notch macro and micro. He is also arguably the most consistent GSL player since he arrived on the scene in GSL2 (two finals and a RO8). He all-killed Protoss in the Gisado KOTH event and made it to the finals of the All-Stars tournament. If you don't consider the fact that he hasn't won a GSL tournament, the guy is arguably the most successful SC2 player to date. You can't say he didn't deserve to beat Nada and Jinro - he 3-1'd them both by showing unbelievably good judgment and decision making, and those guys are seriously awesome players.

He's also one of the most exciting players to watch as a spectator since he prefers (or at least has preferred in the past) to use very mobile, harass-based strategies which rely on heavy micro to be successful.

I know it's weird to have all these top player knocked out now but let's not start saying they weren't that great to begin with.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10376 Posts
March 02 2011 20:42 GMT
#235
The round of 32 has made it Jinro's season to lose.


I think you mean win? Correct me if I'm wrong ^_^
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 20:52:47
March 02 2011 20:52 GMT
#236
it's the extreme randomness of group play. any time i see these tournaments try it for SC, some ridiculous shit happens. actionjesuz anyone? i love this game and BW too but never have i seen competitive games that had such a likelihood for a worse player to beat a better one if only they didn't have to play too many times. it's practically a sin to make a huge tournament have Bo1 group play imo.

it honestly does not surprise me at all, i mean yea, when you look at just the names of the people who got through and who didn't, it seems unbelievable. but then if you consider the fact that as long as your mechanics aren't vastly inferior to someone else's, you can cheese them out of a game, and then consider the fact that you only need to play 2 players 1 time each to advance, it makes it a lot more possible than you'd think.

if they had it like they used to, with a round of 32 of 4-5 Bo3 matches per day, i guarantee you we would see more of the people you'd expect to advance do so.

the only real surprise to me here is sanzenith, who straight up outplayed everyone in his group. that straight up blew my mind. everything else i chalk up to a series of unfortunate mistakes and the unforgiving nature of Bo1
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
March 02 2011 20:55 GMT
#237
SanZenith is the new overlord. All hail San
Dead girls don't say no.
Brandish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States339 Posts
March 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#238
Out of the people still reminaing I would put my money on Jinro or NaDa. Neither of them have very stylistic play, but extremely solid " i make more units than you" play
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
March 02 2011 21:00 GMT
#239
On March 03 2011 05:52 Herculix wrote:
it's the extreme randomness of group play. any time i see these tournaments try it for SC, some ridiculous shit happens. actionjesuz anyone? i love this game and BW too but never have i seen competitive games that had such a likelihood for a worse player to beat a better one if only they didn't have to play too many times. it's practically a sin to make a huge tournament have Bo1 group play imo.


This. I really miss the old bo3's, code A is more entertaining in this regard.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
VzO
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada23 Posts
March 02 2011 21:40 GMT
#240
the power of artosis's words.
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