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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
February 26 2011 05:38 GMT
#1081
Archon Toilet incoming? SanZenith playing super well.
tarath
Profile Joined April 2009
United States377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 05:39:39
February 26 2011 05:39 GMT
#1082
On February 26 2011 14:38 jaearess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 14:34 flexy wrote:
On February 26 2011 14:19 Elefanto wrote:
there are so many terrans everywhere, tvts all day long in latter tournament stages, but i didn't see
any REAL terran nerfs?

Protoss gets hits the most since beta, zergs gets some small buffs here and there, but are still mostly terrible, and terran gets build time reduce nerfs?


just because the main race of Starcraft is meant to be Terran doesnt mean its the best.. people generally use it because its the default human race.. tho protoss had a very good % vs terran, so they made them weaker


What the fuck? Maybe if you're talking about the Bronze league. Do you really thinking Pros choose their race based on the campaign mode or because they are also human?

Also, the win percentages leaked for the top 10% of Masters in Europe revealed that Protoss actually has the worst win percentage out of the three races.


Furthermore of all the matchups PvT was by far the least balanced according to those stats with T winning 59% iirc.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
February 26 2011 05:40 GMT
#1083
Mommy is here.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
February 26 2011 05:41 GMT
#1084
Bwahha side note. Tyler's chat is hilarious. Sly comments about getting a mothership and high templar while you still can bwahaaha.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
February 26 2011 05:43 GMT
#1085
On February 26 2011 14:38 Kavas wrote:
Archon Toilet incoming? SanZenith playing super well.



Yeah I just saw that, that was awesome...oh no, we'll never see that again :p
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 05:55:27
February 26 2011 05:48 GMT
#1086
Theres also been some UI changes to how the ladder system looks:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

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EDIT : And the customs page
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On each profile, there is also a button to look back at your season 1 results.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Tercotta
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada402 Posts
February 26 2011 05:50 GMT
#1087
Is anyone having their update fail. It loops from 100 back to 0 over and over and over. I have been updating for 3 hours.
DCIfan
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2 Posts
February 26 2011 05:51 GMT
#1088
This is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. The dependence on colossi even RIGHT NOW is too much. With the amulet gone, HT tech will be halved in potency, causing colossi to be THE ONLY tech path that is worth getting as protoss. If this patch makes it through I will probably switch to zerg. I will not tolerate getting colossi virtually every game because storm is now next to worthless.

If you are a terran player, and are getting owned by psi storm, you need to either A - Not go tier 1 units against tier 3 protoss, B - Get more ghosts, or C - Not play terran. Storm is good, but it isnt like it is insanely good, it has already been nerfed, and if this next nerf goes through I am virtually done with protoss.

I cannot believe that of all the things to do balance wise with protoss, NERFING STORM is what they came up with. Yeah all the pro gamers talking about how retardedly dependent protoss is on colossi and how good colossi are are all just up in the night and stupid. Lets nerf storm!!! HUR DUR!!!

/rage.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 05:52:45
February 26 2011 05:51 GMT
#1089
edit: ops wrong thread
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 05:54:04
February 26 2011 05:52 GMT
#1090
On February 26 2011 14:51 Kavas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nestea ggs!!!!!!!!!!!


Wrong thread, spoiler, etc.

Hehe, caught you
I'll call Nada.
CP-Jun
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia278 Posts
February 26 2011 05:53 GMT
#1091
The problem with EMP is that they do not kill Protoss army. But you can't say Protoss can run away and recharge shields and mana before engaging Terran army. Marauders will catch any army running away. EMPs not only take away mana but shields as well but to be honest I don't know why 'Psionic' powers are rendered by EMP. Sheilds sure.. but taking away mana? pfft
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b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
February 26 2011 05:53 GMT
#1092
At least reduce amulet from 75 to maybe 65 or 70. If they want to remove amulet completely then buff storm
Terr
Profile Joined October 2010
237 Posts
February 26 2011 05:54 GMT
#1093
On February 26 2011 14:48 Energizer wrote:
Theres also been some UI changes to how the ladder system looks:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]


On each profile, there is also a button to look back at your season 1 results.

Thank you so much for posting this!
I was waiting to see that the new icons look like!
"How peaceful it must be for you, to have a mind unburdened by thought." - Protoss Zealot
Aequos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada606 Posts
February 26 2011 05:59 GMT
#1094
On February 26 2011 14:38 tarath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 14:34 Kyadytim wrote:
@tarath: Flux vanes allowed Void Rays to run away from (or chase) Vikings. It also made VR backstabs really, really deadly. The threat of them basically pinned an opponent's entire army to their base, because VRs also have some of the highest DPS in the game when charged, so trying to just go kill your opponent will result in you losing a base trade.


Hmm, did this actually happen in any GSL games or anything? From a pure theory standpoint that makes sense, I've just never seen it used at the pro level.





I don't believe it happened in a GSL game (although I could be wrong). However, I do remember a Protoss using them with Motherships (it was probably Kiwikaki) to snipe Zerg expos and then retreat or be mass recalled to safety.
I first realized Immortals were reincarnated Dragoons when I saw them dancing helplessly behind my Stalkers.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
February 26 2011 06:00 GMT
#1095
On February 26 2011 14:36 hunts wrote:
What happened to the supposed corruptor buffs? Also is it just me or does it seem like the fungal change is more of a nerf than buff?


Double the DPS +30% damage to armour is a buff.

Making it a missile is a nerf.

Adding +20 health to infestors is a buff.

Overall, I think we're seeing an infestor buff in this patch.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Mr_Kyo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States269 Posts
February 26 2011 06:02 GMT
#1096
I think even protoss understand how overpowered the Amulet is. You can basically cast storm anywhere within seconds. A huge nerf, but at least they received buffs with observer/pheonix and now longer stim research time.
azn_dude1
Profile Joined October 2010
162 Posts
February 26 2011 06:03 GMT
#1097
On February 26 2011 15:00 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 14:36 hunts wrote:
What happened to the supposed corruptor buffs? Also is it just me or does it seem like the fungal change is more of a nerf than buff?


Double the DPS +30% damage to armour is a buff.

Making it a missile is a nerf.

Adding +20 health to infestors is a buff.

Overall, I think we're seeing an infestor buff in this patch.


Making it a missile is neutral because it allows you to time your fungals, so they can cast and then run away before getting in range of units. Halving the time depends on the matchup and situation. Against bio, it's a buff. Against air, it's a nerf. I guess it's sort of what they were trying to do with fungal not affecting air units.

Infestors shouldn't count as armored. They die so quickly.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 26 2011 06:03 GMT
#1098
On February 26 2011 14:51 DCIfan wrote:
This is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. The dependence on colossi even RIGHT NOW is too much. With the amulet gone, HT tech will be halved in potency, causing colossi to be THE ONLY tech path that is worth getting as protoss. If this patch makes it through I will probably switch to zerg. I will not tolerate getting colossi virtually every game because storm is now next to worthless.

If you are a terran player, and are getting owned by psi storm, you need to either A - Not go tier 1 units against tier 3 protoss, B - Get more ghosts, or C - Not play terran. Storm is good, but it isnt like it is insanely good, it has already been nerfed, and if this next nerf goes through I am virtually done with protoss.

I cannot believe that of all the things to do balance wise with protoss, NERFING STORM is what they came up with. Yeah all the pro gamers talking about how retardedly dependent protoss is on colossi and how good colossi are are all just up in the night and stupid. Lets nerf storm!!! HUR DUR!!!

/rage.


Ya I gotta say I agree. I have been expecting a collosi nerf of some kind... but then they do this. It's a joke...
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
February 26 2011 06:05 GMT
#1099
Dude I know I'm drunk right now but reading these patch notes made me so angry that I went off and played hon instead of practicing for a sc2 tournament I have tomorrow.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 06:11:01
February 26 2011 06:07 GMT
#1100
On February 26 2011 11:12 sqrt wrote:
This makes me sad a little. It is like beta, players find something creative and Blizzard goes to remove it - in this case the flower. This thing was useful for corruptors and muta as well. I'm starting to think that Blizz wants the game to develop as they want, instead of what the players discover.


I completely agree. While it may or may not be a bug or intentional (wasn't mutalisk stacking in BW unintentional but they kept it in as a "feature" in SC2 due to its popularity?) it was a nice thing a player can use.

Help post on the battle.net PTR forums to un-remove the patrol stacking (Viking Flower for example).

Honestly it was one of those neat things you can do in the game and it's not necessarily overpowered or anything.

It removes something fun from the game. It removes variety from the game.

While it may be a bug, it was still nice and should be kept in the game.

I'm fine with Bunkers having salvage (maybe a nerf on cost return) because it's one of those things that adds variety to the game. Disagree with HT energy upgrade removal (again it removes an option from the game.

Also Blizzard removed being able to have 16 players in a custom map (yes it's not "supported" but it worked. You weren't able to have a neutral player but still you could come up with something interesting).

Why is with Blizzard removing options from the game?
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