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Jaydeed
Profile Joined January 2011
4 Posts
February 23 2011 16:17 GMT
#121
If you live in Europe, it's on at the best time it could be tbh, 10am GMT/11am euro time. Wake up around 8, have shower/breakfast then GSL all morning, leaving evenings free for being social/laddering/working.

This may be biased as I'm a student but I wouldn't want the stream on at any other time!
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
February 23 2011 16:19 GMT
#122
On February 24 2011 01:15 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 01:06 Terrakin wrote:
On February 24 2011 00:59 Morale wrote:
On February 23 2011 15:40 dacthehork wrote:
Hey guys, this idea seems kind of obvious to me, in order to compete better with NASL


Compete with GSL? NASL is like GSL only worse players and no TasteosisXD

So what happens if previous GSL players play in NASL? Does the world explode?

I dont see why theyd wanna compete with the NASL (which is 3 months away.) wouldnt they want to work WITH them to bring in a large amount of viewers for both instead of dividing the views?


And how do you think the two are supposed to work together?
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
February 23 2011 16:25 GMT
#123
On February 24 2011 01:15 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 01:06 Terrakin wrote:
On February 24 2011 00:59 Morale wrote:
On February 23 2011 15:40 dacthehork wrote:
Hey guys, this idea seems kind of obvious to me, in order to compete better with NASL


Compete with GSL? NASL is like GSL only worse players and no TasteosisXD

So what happens if previous GSL players play in NASL? Does the world explode?

I dont see why theyd wanna compete with the NASL (which is 3 months away.) wouldnt they want to work WITH them to bring in a large amount of viewers for both instead of dividing the views?

Nah, i rather have them competative, its gives the better experience for the consumer.
When ppl need to choose they will try whatever possible to get more of the viewers, this means better prices/content for all of us.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 16:35:51
February 23 2011 16:35 GMT
#124
I don't see how re-braocasting would help them compete with NASL...... the people who already pay for GSl can watch at their leisure via VODs....... those who don't pay aren't contributing to GOM and therefore GOM has no reason to use resources on them. Its that simple, they are focusing more on foreigners but why should they provide a free service on top of the free service they provide already?

As for NASL, they will have all of their players from EU and US, maybe a few from korea/asia so they are mainly catering to EU/US viewers...... GSL has like 4 foreigners in it, and whenever they are playing the stream numbers jump from normal, and VOD views jump too. If foreigners were playing every day then I could see them broadcasting at a more convenient time for us.... but there aren't always foreigners playing.

GSL gains nothing by giving another free broadcast, they would likely lose money because many people who buy the ticket because they can't watch live, wouldn't buy it if they could watch a free re-broadcast. I'm pretty sure that I would think twice about paying for a season ticket if i knew for a fact that I would be able to watch it live every time....
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
February 23 2011 16:41 GMT
#125
a restream would be great, could even be fairly profitable if they made deals with some North American/European companies to show English ads during the massive downtime the korean ads are normally shown.
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
Nik0
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay460 Posts
February 23 2011 16:46 GMT
#126
People need to stop with the whole "IS REALLY WORTH IT, GET IT, IS NOT THAT MUCH MONEY, DO IT FOR ESPORTS" thing, this is not like free vods is like exactly what it sounds to be, a re-broadcast at a time when people can actually watch it.
And everyone that says that if they make a re-broadcast they would get 0 people buying the premium, have you no idea how the internet works? theres a million different places to get the vods for free, so if someone buys the season ticket is not because is the only way for them to watch it, but because they want to support GSL.
whiteguycash
Profile Joined April 2010
United States476 Posts
February 23 2011 16:51 GMT
#127
The amount of uneducated thoughts and comments regarding "Business Sense" is absolutely astounding in this thread.

The niche of off-broadcast viewership is already fulfilled by High Quality VODs. I suppose if you were to Re stream for US Timezones, you would want to Re stream for EU timezones as well, to make sure none of your viewership is left out of the equation? Don't be ridiculous. Re streaming 2x would cost much more than a simple VOD system, and would net ZERO additional benefit.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13405 Posts
February 23 2011 16:54 GMT
#128
Vods let you pick and choose the games so you can avoid bad games or save time. I watched every gsl 2 and 3 game and some of that time was a waste tbh. no need to restream them all tbh :/
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deathserv
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
February 23 2011 17:01 GMT
#129
As others have said here, I really enjoy watching GOM's VODs and I don't see why this would improve upon what they are already doing. In fact, I think VODs are superior to a restream because I can watch them at my own leisure. I am a law student so I have classes and must study sporadically throughout the day. I can catch some VODs while I am taking breaks or in the morning before I get rolling. Adds a nice little StarCraft ritual to my day.
Karthane
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1183 Posts
February 23 2011 17:04 GMT
#130
Although there are vods, i do think this would be a good thing as it would be a lot easier to introduce friends to the GSL without asking them to stay up until 4 am.
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 17:13:17
February 23 2011 17:10 GMT
#131
What a stupid idea for gom. They do the livestream as a way for viewers to watch the matches live, not as a way to give away their content. Just pay them 10 dollars. And if you're truly so concerned with introducing friends to gsl have them watch the vod on your computer :O shocking. Stop trying to get free content that they have to put a lot of money into. Or how about this, they do a restream only for payed subscribers what a great idea!
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Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 17:24:28
February 23 2011 17:22 GMT
#132
I've changed my mind. Assuming they have the capital to sustain and can advertise, I think they should try this during the next season. Personally, I think they should just showcase the Code S games. You want to your new audience to see your best casters and players imo. I'm not sure it's the right move, but your potential to grow is probably worth the shot.

Another thought I had was that battle.net should have at least a low res video player on their interface that plays a recent great GSL game with a link to GOMTV.net. You have millions of people who log onto battle.net who probably don't even know anything about the GSL. They're probably more likely to tune into GSL then someone who doesn't play SC2.

People saying there should be a way to restream all the games uninterrupted from the day before are correct.
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
February 23 2011 17:28 GMT
#133
This shouldn't happen. It would take away season purchases as people will be able to watch the live stream. Sure it's horrible logic, but from a business standpoint, it's a smart move.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#134
On February 24 2011 01:51 whiteguycash wrote:
The amount of uneducated thoughts and comments regarding "Business Sense" is absolutely astounding in this thread.

The niche of off-broadcast viewership is already fulfilled by High Quality VODs. I suppose if you were to Re stream for US Timezones, you would want to Re stream for EU timezones as well, to make sure none of your viewership is left out of the equation? Don't be ridiculous. Re streaming 2x would cost much more than a simple VOD system, and would net ZERO additional benefit.


You have some numbers for this? You state this like you know exactly how much it costs for them to stream a event rather then hold a database of VODs that are available whenever someone wants to access the.

Also, there is much benefit. I don't have to stay up to 4-6am to watch the games live, which I prefer much more then watching VODs.
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Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
February 23 2011 17:45 GMT
#135
IMO were lucky to even get a free stream, regardless of the time it is on. Be grateful that they care enough to provide NA with English commentaries and such.
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
February 23 2011 17:45 GMT
#136
On February 23 2011 22:39 plainsane wrote:
just watch the VoDs dude, dont be cheap


I've bought tickets for every season and I voted yes, don't make assumptions. A restream would let me introduce this to my friends who aren't into e-sports and don't watch gaming streams often.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
February 23 2011 17:47 GMT
#137
On February 23 2011 15:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I thought the greatest thing about watching pro starcraft was fighting the urge of sleeping at 2AM to watch a starleague finals.

it shows passion and dedication.
School tomorrow?still watch starcraft at 2AM.
Catch a a flight in the morning?Still watch starcraft at 2AM.

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FOR THE PASSION,
FOR THE GLORY,
FOR THE MEMORIES,
FOR THE MONEY,
YOU'RE A GAMER,
YOU LOVE STARCRAFT,
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?
ALL THE SAME!!!


Agree, although I wish it was 2am and not 4am
We talkin about PRACTICE
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
February 23 2011 17:48 GMT
#138
On February 24 2011 02:45 Pinith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 22:39 plainsane wrote:
just watch the VoDs dude, dont be cheap


I've bought tickets for every season and I voted yes, don't make assumptions. A restream would let me introduce this to my friends who aren't into e-sports and don't watch gaming streams often.

Have them come over and watch the VoDs instead?
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
February 23 2011 17:48 GMT
#139
On February 24 2011 02:45 Pinith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 22:39 plainsane wrote:
just watch the VoDs dude, dont be cheap


I've bought tickets for every season and I voted yes, don't make assumptions. A restream would let me introduce this to my friends who aren't into e-sports and don't watch gaming streams often.


Herp derp I guess your friends couldn't just watch a VOD or two with you or would that not let them get the idea of what it is?
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AtrumX
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17 Posts
February 23 2011 18:02 GMT
#140
I imagine it would make more 'business sense' to have the two work together. They're already setup to air at different times with 'generally' different groups of players. Would be cool to see them plug each other on occasion.
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