I use it alot, set it at a high sensitivity so i can use it like in bw and go from one corner of the map to another without having to click the minimap.

Herpadurr

Monaco151 Posts

January 24 2011 08:11 GMT

#63

It's very nice but as the middle mouse button on my mouse is pretty hard to click it's not really viable for me. Remapping it to one of the thumb buttons might be interesting but I haven't tried yet.

amd098

Korea (North)1366 Posts

January 24 2011 08:47 GMT

#64

i have a g9x... the middle button is too stiff (for once a problem), so i use the arrow keys

lowlypawn

United States241 Posts

January 24 2011 10:30 GMT

#65

I’ve been using this method since SC2 beta. I knew it was something I wanted to transition to because edge scrolling so inefficient.

My settings: Disable the wheel zoom. Invert movement (so it works like Google maps), and lastly, set the sensitivity to max. (I now have edge scroll set to the lowest settings).

It really is superior to edge scrolling. More precision and MUCH less mouse movement, thus you can lower the sensitivity on your mouse which allows for more accuracy. It took me a few weeks to get use to it and probably a full month before it became second nature. But now I would probably cry if I had to go back to edge scrolling. My wrist also gets less fatigued then when I was playing WC3 and I feel SC2 is a much more frantic game then WC3. I was never frantically jumping between 5 different maps locations in WC3 (which is common in SC2).

Also if you look at it from a pure efficient / ergonomic point of view it’s obviously superior. But many people have really refined their edge scrolling skills and don’t want to have to re-learn something new. I understand that but if you can force yourself to stick with it for a month I guarantee you’ll be glad you did.

SolHeiM

Sweden1264 Posts

January 24 2011 10:42 GMT

#66

The former WC3 and current SC2 player SaSe used to play with the mouse-drag function in WC3. I would assume he'd be using the mouse-drag in SC2 as well. You can literally drag all the way across the map, which when you have practiced enough with it is faster than moving your mouse down to click the minimap and moving it back to the middle of the screen again.

Technique

Netherlands1542 Posts

January 24 2011 10:53 GMT

#67

I can't get used to middle mouse button, cause it's so inferior to the way right click speedscroll in cnc games work.

Sockpuppet

119 Posts

January 24 2011 12:13 GMT

#68

I am a huge fan of the f buttons to jump around the screen like while the beginning stuff happens ill stone to my ramp, etc.

MindRush

Romania916 Posts

January 24 2011 12:18 GMT

#69

On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games.

you can use key bindings to disable scroll up and down for zoom in and out
this way you don't mess up.
just a suggestion
Cheers

machination

United States175 Posts

January 25 2011 05:58 GMT

#70

On January 24 2011 14:36 Euronyme wrote:
Are there any pro gamers doing this?

saw a lesson of liquid`ret's where he swore by mouse3 at max sens

Twistacles

Canada1327 Posts

January 25 2011 06:00 GMT

#71

Im gonna try binding it to a mouse button and see what happens

Paramo

Mexico138 Posts

January 25 2011 06:18 GMT

#72

I used to do the usual method, then I gave the middle button a shot. It is soooooo much better, mainly for the reasons stated by the OP. One thing I would say though is that it is hard to get used to the feeling, but after a week of doing it it really isnt uncomfortable.

Also, after doing middle mouse for a bit, my button stopped working because I rage and throw my mouse around. I tried going back to edge scrolling and it just felt 10x slower. Why on earth would you want to take the time to drag your mouse to the edge and then bring it back to wherever you need it? With the middle mouse its instant and the cursor stays at the middle of the screen, making it faster to do whatever you need to do next.

Middle mouse fighting!

KoKoRo

United States186 Posts

January 25 2011 06:25 GMT

#73

I click on the mini map... Scroll button moving the screen seems to slow and just doesn't feel right.

frequency

Australia1901 Posts

January 25 2011 06:31 GMT

#74

They need to change this to how it was in WC3, but I still use it for small camera movements anyway.

belatube

United States27 Posts

May 03 2012 21:35 GMT

#75

***Warning*****

Though getting used to using drag scroll (mouse button 3) to move around the map maybe be faster or more useful. It teaches you a Very bad habbit of barely looking at the mini-map.

If you watch pros stream you notice their had or eyes constantly moving up down up down up down. (game- minimap game-minimap) Because they use minimap to move around. and Reason why they always spot drops coming even if it showed a blimp in the mini-map for half a second.

As protoss even when i reached Plat I sometimes had hard time spotting drops even if it showed them coming in mini-map because i just did noticed it. I always used Dragscroll set at 100% to move aruond the map because it is soo easty to do and useful. I got the same tips from differently players on how to spot drops and still i always tend to forget during game. Til one day i got a tip from somoene. he asked me if i used dragsscroll. He said to turn it off for 1 week and try using the mini map to move around. After that week since i look at the mini map soo much from moving around map I spot most everything! It was honestly the best tip i ever got. I am now in Masters.

dacimvrl

Vatican City State582 Posts

May 03 2012 21:38 GMT

#76

I am not really a fan of this idea, because not only it's kind of uncomfortable on a Roccat Kone+, but also I am used to just clicking on the minimap.

caradoc

Canada3022 Posts

May 03 2012 21:38 GMT

#77

fwiw, I just have capslock rebound to move the screen, don't like the middle mouse button. it's good for close-by stuff, engagements etc, but if it's across the map, I either use location hotkeys or click on the minimap.

sometimes it makes me seem like I'm yelling at my opponents tho'

biomech

Germany380 Posts

May 03 2012 21:49 GMT

#78

Awareness of minimap doesn't contradict using mouse 3 for "scrolling", kiting along huge distance and whatnot... you're supposed to either click on the minimap directly, or set up crucial camera position beforehand.

tsdr: minimap awareness is key, no matter what

OkStyX

Canada1199 Posts

May 03 2012 21:51 GMT

#79

I changed my mouse three to base cam so when i inject i just snap through hatches with it

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

May 03 2012 21:53 GMT

#80

The only thing i miss from C&C games is the Right-Click scrolling. It's so super fast.

It was good, because you were able to scroll with any speed, slow or fast, and speed was not fixed by parameter in game options. Just scroller, that increases intensity of that right-click scroll.

In sc2 we have "grab and move", that was uncomfort for me after playing much in C&C. So I've maxed out scroll speed from middle mouse button