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I hear Tasteless and Artosis talk about moving your screen smoothly with mouse 3, as if that's all it's good for: spectating.
I use mouse 3 for all screen moving which isn't a control group, camera save, or minimap click. IE: I don't touch the edges of my screen.
I can think of two very obvious advantages to this:
A) It takes less movement of the mouse to position your screen, since it begins to move immediately instead of after you reach the screen's edge.
B) It gives you increased control, as you basically aim your screen like you aim your mouse, as fast and accurately as you want.
Basically, I just find it bizarre that more SC2 players don't realize that middle mouse screen control is a very viable alternative to screen edge touching or (ew) arrow key movement. This is kind of a public service announcement, I suppose.
PS: I have it inverted, so it's like I'm grabbing the screen and moving it, as vyyye said, it's like using the hand tool in photoshop.
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this is interesting. i didnt know this at all! seems like this will eventually be the norm. right now it is easier to control with jerkier movements by reaching for the edge, but as peoples control and game timings get better i would bet that this will be an invaluable time saver. playing like this from now on.
at least something from my fps days has a chance to carryover and help me out
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Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games.
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That's super uncomfortable imo. So you are going to press middle button every second?
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On January 24 2011 01:21 Alpina wrote:
That's super uncomfortable imo. So you are going to press middle button every second?
I have it inverted btw, so it's as if I'm grabbing the screen and pulling it where I want it at mouse speed. Yes, I hit my middle mouse button very, very often. I suppose it all depends on your mouse, for whether it's comfortable or not. I use a Razor Deathadder, and before this I used a Logitech G5.
Keep in mind, I also use 10 control groups and 2 screen saves to move my screen, as well as minimap clicking. I chiefly use middle mouse to navigate my own main, or between main and nat.
PS: I made another thread about the control groups and screen saves, because I realized that's something else people seem to forget about.
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I don't get what it does, does it just keep your mouse in the center and moves you're screen around it?
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You should be using hotkeys to do that! I remember trying to scroll this way, and it felt too weird. But I also remembers that it didn't seem to scroll very far, but you can probably alter the setting for that.
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On January 24 2011 01:31 minimat wrote:
I don't get what it does, does it just keep your mouse in the center and moves you're screen around it?
Basically, yeah. Imagine some image software where the cursor becomes a hand when you hold down left click, and then you can move the image around when zoomed for example. Same idea, though in that case it's inverted (which I believe is a setting for it anyhow).
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Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 01:37 Temerit wrote:
I chiefly use middle mouse to navigate my own main, or between main and nat. You should be using hotkeys to do that! I remember trying to scroll this way, and it felt too weird. But I also remembers that it didn't seem to scroll very far, but you can probably alter the setting for that.
Well usually I have a screen save at the front of my nat, but say I need to build a pylon behind the mineral line at my nat, or something somewhere specific like that? Inevitably you'll need to move your screen by hand, and I find middle mouse the best for me.
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You can use it to scroll up and down this thread, for practice.
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On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games.
There is an option to turn off the mouse zoom. I find it almost impossible to use without disabling the zoom.
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On January 24 2011 01:42 TheFrankOne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games. There is an option to turn off the mouse zoom. I find it almost impossible to use without disabling the zoom.
There is? I looked for this for a while and couldn't find it, haha. Sometimes when I get nervous in a game, I start zooming a little bit and it makes me sadsies. Gonna find this option.
On January 24 2011 01:42 Uncultured wrote:
You can use it to scroll up and down this thread, for practice.
Rofl, coincidentally, I noticed that I do that every time I read anything on my browser. I just click and hold middle mouse and move my screen around a bit by habit. That might have lead me to do it ingame.
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just tried it. not as good as other methods, you have to hold down a button and that means u cant like follow medivacs running away, or muta chasign or anything like that without having to re-put ur hand on the middle button.. the other method, u can move ur mouse to move screen adn still click.
thumbs down.
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The only thing i miss from C&C games is the Right-Click scrolling. It's so super fast.
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On January 24 2011 01:44 stickyickynugz wrote:
just tried it. not as good as other methods, you have to hold down a button and that means u cant like follow medivacs running away, or muta chasign or anything like that without having to re-put ur hand on the middle button.. the other method, u can move ur mouse to move screen adn still click.
thumbs down.
I suppose I edge-move in those scenarios. It's just rare for me to need to do so. Maybe it's more common than I recall, but it's not hard to use both. Point is, for basic screen movement, I use middle mouse.
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Yeah I really don't get it. Let's say you are flying with muta so each time you press middle-drag then right click then again middle-drag and again right click, etc, right?
This thing is either for spectators or for ppl who just got the game and plays at 20 apm imo. I personally don't recommend that.
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On January 24 2011 01:47 Alpina wrote:
Yeah I really don't get it. Let's say you are flying with muta so each time you press middle-drag then right click then again middle-drag and again right click, etc, right?
This thing is either for spectators or for ppl who just got the game and plays at 20 apm imo. I personally don't recommend that.
You don't have to use it exclusively. Ultimately it's a more precise version of the side scroll, which may or may not be helpful in certain situations. Say you just want to move the screen to see something just out of the screen, and then move it back quickly.
I don't use it personally but I can see how it could be useful. Probably won't win anyone any games, but hey, it's preference.
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On January 24 2011 01:47 Alpina wrote:
Yeah I really don't get it. Let's say you are flying with muta so each time you press middle-drag then right click then again middle-drag and again right click, etc, right?
This thing is either for spectators or for ppl who just got the game and plays at 20 apm imo. I personally don't recommend that.
Just for reference, I have 97 total 1v1 ladder games played. I played 2 today, one I lost to a 2500 master T, and one I won from a 2800 diamond Z.
I'm not great but I'm not a bronze leaguer or anything.
edit: Also what vyyye said is exactly it. :3
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I use this, terrible starcraft player but i find it much easier to move the camera around. Also disabled zoom on the mouse wheel.
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On January 24 2011 01:42 TheFrankOne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games. There is an option to turn off the mouse zoom. I find it almost impossible to use without disabling the zoom.
Oh, I hadn't realized. I've been using drag more and more lately, but hate the accidental zoom in. I'll have to go turn it off and try again.
Thanks a lot.
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