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I hear Tasteless and Artosis talk about moving your screen smoothly with mouse 3, as if that's all it's good for: spectating.
I use mouse 3 for all screen moving which isn't a control group, camera save, or minimap click. IE: I don't touch the edges of my screen.
I can think of two very obvious advantages to this:
A) It takes less movement of the mouse to position your screen, since it begins to move immediately instead of after you reach the screen's edge.
B) It gives you increased control, as you basically aim your screen like you aim your mouse, as fast and accurately as you want.
Basically, I just find it bizarre that more SC2 players don't realize that middle mouse screen control is a very viable alternative to screen edge touching or (ew) arrow key movement. This is kind of a public service announcement, I suppose.
PS: I have it inverted, so it's like I'm grabbing the screen and moving it, as vyyye said, it's like using the hand tool in photoshop.
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this is interesting. i didnt know this at all! seems like this will eventually be the norm. right now it is easier to control with jerkier movements by reaching for the edge, but as peoples control and game timings get better i would bet that this will be an invaluable time saver. playing like this from now on.
at least something from my fps days has a chance to carryover and help me out
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Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games.
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That's super uncomfortable imo. So you are going to press middle button every second?
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On January 24 2011 01:21 Alpina wrote:
That's super uncomfortable imo. So you are going to press middle button every second?
I have it inverted btw, so it's as if I'm grabbing the screen and pulling it where I want it at mouse speed. Yes, I hit my middle mouse button very, very often. I suppose it all depends on your mouse, for whether it's comfortable or not. I use a Razor Deathadder, and before this I used a Logitech G5.
Keep in mind, I also use 10 control groups and 2 screen saves to move my screen, as well as minimap clicking. I chiefly use middle mouse to navigate my own main, or between main and nat.
PS: I made another thread about the control groups and screen saves, because I realized that's something else people seem to forget about.
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I don't get what it does, does it just keep your mouse in the center and moves you're screen around it?
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I chiefly use middle mouse to navigate my own main, or between main and nat.[/QUOTE]
You should be using hotkeys to do that! I remember trying to scroll this way, and it felt too weird. But I also remembers that it didn't seem to scroll very far, but you can probably alter the setting for that.
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On January 24 2011 01:31 minimat wrote:
I don't get what it does, does it just keep your mouse in the center and moves you're screen around it?
Basically, yeah. Imagine some image software where the cursor becomes a hand when you hold down left click, and then you can move the image around when zoomed for example. Same idea, though in that case it's inverted (which I believe is a setting for it anyhow).
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Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 01:37 Temerit wrote:
I chiefly use middle mouse to navigate my own main, or between main and nat. You should be using hotkeys to do that! I remember trying to scroll this way, and it felt too weird. But I also remembers that it didn't seem to scroll very far, but you can probably alter the setting for that.
Well usually I have a screen save at the front of my nat, but say I need to build a pylon behind the mineral line at my nat, or something somewhere specific like that? Inevitably you'll need to move your screen by hand, and I find middle mouse the best for me.
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You can use it to scroll up and down this thread, for practice.
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On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games.
There is an option to turn off the mouse zoom. I find it almost impossible to use without disabling the zoom.
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On January 24 2011 01:42 TheFrankOne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games. There is an option to turn off the mouse zoom. I find it almost impossible to use without disabling the zoom.
There is? I looked for this for a while and couldn't find it, haha. Sometimes when I get nervous in a game, I start zooming a little bit and it makes me sadsies. Gonna find this option.
On January 24 2011 01:42 Uncultured wrote:
You can use it to scroll up and down this thread, for practice.
Rofl, coincidentally, I noticed that I do that every time I read anything on my browser. I just click and hold middle mouse and move my screen around a bit by habit. That might have lead me to do it ingame.
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just tried it. not as good as other methods, you have to hold down a button and that means u cant like follow medivacs running away, or muta chasign or anything like that without having to re-put ur hand on the middle button.. the other method, u can move ur mouse to move screen adn still click.
thumbs down.
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The only thing i miss from C&C games is the Right-Click scrolling. It's so super fast.
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On January 24 2011 01:44 stickyickynugz wrote:
just tried it. not as good as other methods, you have to hold down a button and that means u cant like follow medivacs running away, or muta chasign or anything like that without having to re-put ur hand on the middle button.. the other method, u can move ur mouse to move screen adn still click.
thumbs down.
I suppose I edge-move in those scenarios. It's just rare for me to need to do so. Maybe it's more common than I recall, but it's not hard to use both. Point is, for basic screen movement, I use middle mouse.
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Yeah I really don't get it. Let's say you are flying with muta so each time you press middle-drag then right click then again middle-drag and again right click, etc, right?
This thing is either for spectators or for ppl who just got the game and plays at 20 apm imo. I personally don't recommend that.
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On January 24 2011 01:47 Alpina wrote:
Yeah I really don't get it. Let's say you are flying with muta so each time you press middle-drag then right click then again middle-drag and again right click, etc, right?
This thing is either for spectators or for ppl who just got the game and plays at 20 apm imo. I personally don't recommend that.
You don't have to use it exclusively. Ultimately it's a more precise version of the side scroll, which may or may not be helpful in certain situations. Say you just want to move the screen to see something just out of the screen, and then move it back quickly.
I don't use it personally but I can see how it could be useful. Probably won't win anyone any games, but hey, it's preference.
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On January 24 2011 01:47 Alpina wrote:
Yeah I really don't get it. Let's say you are flying with muta so each time you press middle-drag then right click then again middle-drag and again right click, etc, right?
This thing is either for spectators or for ppl who just got the game and plays at 20 apm imo. I personally don't recommend that.
Just for reference, I have 97 total 1v1 ladder games played. I played 2 today, one I lost to a 2500 master T, and one I won from a 2800 diamond Z.
I'm not great but I'm not a bronze leaguer or anything.
edit: Also what vyyye said is exactly it. :3
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I use this, terrible starcraft player but i find it much easier to move the camera around. Also disabled zoom on the mouse wheel.
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On January 24 2011 01:42 TheFrankOne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games. There is an option to turn off the mouse zoom. I find it almost impossible to use without disabling the zoom.
Oh, I hadn't realized. I've been using drag more and more lately, but hate the accidental zoom in. I'll have to go turn it off and try again.
Thanks a lot.
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Didnt know about that, now Capslock finally got a function for me. I think pressing an additional key on the keyboard is more convenient for me then pressing my mousewheel :p
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i click the minimap to move around
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I do this and I highly recommend it. Once you get used to it, it is vastly superior to edge scrolling.
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Yeah definitely a +1 from me. I was always surprised that not many people use mouse 3 for scrolling. I always hear arguments like "if you're clicking the middle mouse button you can't click the left button!". When really that's as stupid as saying you can't use your index finger to press 5 if you're using your index to press 4.
With very little practice it becomes faaar superior.
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i feel that i have more control using the edge scrolling because iam used to it - but i will try to use the scroll wheel and see if i think thats an improvement or made it worse.
The only downside i possibly can see is that you have to move your mouse fingers and that maybe make you slower after you switch back to normal mouse operations.
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I use this mouse 3 moving around a lot. I had to increase the sensitivity to make it more comfortable, but I find this to be the superior option.
Edge scrolling with mouse is too inaccurate for my taste. Scrolling with keyboard keys is also out of the question because it makes me unable to move mouse, which is bad. Either that, or prevents me from using hotkeys with my left hand (right hand is mousehand for me).
When you get used to it, I find the middle-mouse-camera control very, very accurate. It needs to be for me as a protoss, because I have to move my screen to where I am warping in units (you can't warp in via minimap, right?).
Or hm, maybe I should just hotkey the pylon I am using :p
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i love mouse3 scrolling, drastically decreases the chance of mis clicking and is so much smoother.
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i used to do this.... but it's jus SOOOOOOO SLOW compared to edge scrolling (especially when your edge scrolling is super high)
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On January 24 2011 01:14 Buddhist wrote:
A) It takes less movement of the mouse to position your screen, since it begins to move immediately instead of after you reach the screen's edge.
this is only true if you mouse is, for example, in the left-most corner of the screen and you want to click something that is slightly off to the right of the screen since you save the transportation from left-to-centre but you still have to do the centre-to-right part (which is included by default when using the edge-movement technique)
otherwise you are essentialy moving your mouse to the right side of the screen twice if you use the middle mouse wheel (assuming you want to click something to the right of where you screen is currently at)
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On January 24 2011 02:21 Keitzer wrote:
i used to do this.... but it's jus SOOOOOOO SLOW compared to edge scrolling (especially when your edge scrolling is super high)
Playing a fair bit of Counter-Strike in my day, I'm used to wide sweeping motions when necessary. It's actually faster for me to mouse3 move compared to edge scrolling in most situations.
Both edge scrolling and mouse3 scrolling are set to 100% sensitivity for me as well.
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I rebound mouse5 to drag and I use it exclusively (other than minimap clicking). I never drag screen corners or use arrow keys, it's just SO much slower. So easy to twitch a drag to look at your expo or something
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I've used mouse3 since WC3. Never been a fan of edge scrolling, i'd rather have my mouse near the center of the screen as much as possible.
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On January 24 2011 02:21 Jameser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 01:14 Buddhist wrote:
A) It takes less movement of the mouse to position your screen, since it begins to move immediately instead of after you reach the screen's edge.
this is only true if you mouse is, for example, in the left-most corner of the screen and you want to click something that is slightly off to the right of the screen since you save the transportation from left-to-centre but you still have to do the centre-to-right part (which is included by default when using the edge-movement technique) otherwise you are essentialy moving your mouse to the right side of the screen twice if you use the middle mouse wheel (assuming you want to click something to the right of where you screen is currently at)
actually strike that I just realized your mouse is not centered when you use the mouse wheel so you are in fact adding travel time for your mouse (for clicking)
if you simply want to look at something however the two techniques appear equal with mouse wheel having the disadvantage of having a seperate motor-muscle memory response than what is (or should be) used for clicking
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I use this a whole lot.
I find that it gives me a lot better feeling of how far i need to move the screen.
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Honestly, if you are using hotkeys properly you shouldn't really need to do much scrolling anyways. I was curious as to how much scrolling I actually do, and its very minimal. I find its almost better to have the screen move at a comfortable smooth rate so that you have better control over it while you are attacking. The only time you ever really scroll is when doing fine control over a group of units, otherwise its all hotkeys or minimap clicks, which are faster by far.
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I've bound this to MB4(or 5? No idea) instead of MB3 so that I do not accidentally scroll or have to move my fingers. I find it a lot EASIER to scroll the camera this way while pursuing since when you scroll from the edge of the screen you have to first go from where you are on the screen, then to the bottom (or sides or top) and then back to your target.
However while using the MB3 to scroll you're guaranteed always have less travel distance from your pointer to your goal.
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Wow, didn't even realize there was a drag-scroll. Inverted it and played a couple games against AI to feel out this technique a bit and I kinda like it, will take some getting used to tho. It's great because, yea, it helps sc2 move a bit more like a design program.
However, my first run through with it feels like it's not quite fast enough and you have a little less control than in photoshop. My current amount of scrolling is minimal because of hotkeys, but if I get used to this then maybe drag will become a part of my gameplay. Too early to tell yet, but great tip OP! Thanks.
EDIT: Ballz, I forgot before commenting that you can increase drag scroll speed, so maybe I just have mine turned way down. lol. I'll fix that and give it another run through a little later today.
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Dude you're totally right. I've been using middle mouse drag since the game first came out and I find it completely superior. I'm not like on Idra pro level but I am top 4% in NA and working towards master league. I find it completely superior because it requires less random mouse movements on the edges of your screen and it's definitely a more smooth experience. Once you get used to it you never go back.
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On January 24 2011 02:07 Ripzone wrote:
Didnt know about that, now Capslock finally got a function for me. I think pressing an additional key on the keyboard is more convenient for me then pressing my mousewheel :p
thats exactly what I was thinking of trying, hitting m3 all the time sounds annoying but caps lock sounds doable
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After some testing the downfall of this method seems to be that you need to lift your mouse after doing this to reposition it on the mousepad.
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This is a really good idea. I don't use my side buttons in SC2, I think that would be quite a good use for them.
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I used to never using during my casts, however I try and use it exclusively now - as stated, it looks a lot smoother and makes the 'screen transition' easier on the eyes.
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I've been using nothing but middle mouse pan since SC2 came out. I disabled mouse zoom and edge pan immediately, and I've got to say nothing beats how easy it is to middle mouse pan anywhere on the map.
Middle mouse pan is to edge scrolling as dpad camera control is to mouse look. Movement speed and control is analog rather than digital (that is to say, if you move your mouse faster/slower, middle mouse pan moves your screen faster/slower, while edge panning always moves at a constant rate). Therefore middle mouse pan is inherently better once you get used to it.
I'd advise anyone wanting to try this out to set their middle mouse pan speed quite a lot higher than the default. I have mine at about 75%. You want to be able to move across the map in one motion, while still being accurate enough to focus on certain areas.
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It's not like M3-scrolling excludes edge-scrolling, but I have to say that ever since I tried CnC3's right-click scrolling (which I find inferior to SC2's M3-scrolling, but it's still nice), edge-scrolling has become a rare piece of my play.
I pull up the M3-scrolling to max speed so that quick motions over the map are easy to do, and it has practically replaced edge-scrolling completely for me.
EDIT: Also, I feel it's just a matter of preference. It's pretty obvious that a players with years upon years of BW experience won't let go of their edge-scrolling, and I haven't seen any compelling evidence against using M3-scrolling; since I haven't heard of any top level players that have given both methods time and then come out with a comparison, arguing against it is pure speculation in my opinion.
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i'm really used to zooming in and out to look for cloaked units though (mostly observers)... regardless this would definitely change my gameplay dramatically.
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Wait, people still move their mouse to the corners of their screen? Holy shit.
Mouse 3 move is 100000000000000000000x easier, I really do feel bad for anyone who didn't use it already.
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sadly, my razer lachesis' mouse 3 is broken T_T
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On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games.
you can remove that, it's in the options (not hotkeys). someone mentioned zooming in is easier to see cloaked units? Having your settings on medium or higher will allow you to see cloaked you units regardless of your distance, you just need to train your eye. Also, it's easier to track a cloaked target when your screen isn't completely zoomed in (also you can use the home and end key for quick zoom in/out).
I use this and set my mid mouse button sens to 100% and it's great! Really minimizes hand movement and it's extremely useful and accurate if you get used to it. I recommend this to many people, and I definitely recommend removing the zoom on mouse wheel if you plan on using this.
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The problem I have with this is that it's either too sensitive, or it can't go far enough
Edit: I don't know if that's actually how it is for me. Just seems really awkward and needs and extra click. Actually, I think the problem is that i use my index finger to hot the mousewheel, and that means I can't left click, which makes it difficult to issue some orders if it's not a right-click. Also it just needs a click, while edge scrolling doesn't, and is especially convenient when telling units to move to areas around the ends of the screen (especially like scouting at the start of the game).
It just doesn't seem viable as a 100% alternative to map scrolling.
I think the drag scroll is a major fail compared to what they could have done:
A system like in most major browsers where if you click (or even hold) the middle/scroll button on the mouse, a little icon will appear, and depending where you move your mouse with respect to the icon, the screen will move in that direction faster or slower. (is this called smart scrolling?)
Anyway in the rare occasion where I have used drag-scroll (I think I still need to train myself), I thought I'd like inverted mode because I like 'inverted' (really non-inverted) joystick control, and document drag panning, so I had it on that.
Turns out though, for some reason in SC2 I think I prefer a non-inverted control for it.
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I also switched to mouse3 a while ago. The edges were way too inaccurate for me and you actually have to move your mouse around the screen and move back to the middle. You can control your cursor movement way more accurate using m3 IMHO.
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ull get used to it , and then , yeah ull like it
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Yep I use it a lot too. Almost no screen edge. Feels juste comfortable. I just wish you could set it a bit more sensitive (100% is slighty unsufficient IMO).
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Actually using arrow keys to move is the most advantageous, of course this only applies if your hands are fast enough to not waste time on normal hotkeys. Because when you move with arrow keys you can continue you use your mouse, I believe this was used by pros on BW to macro lots of buildings.
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Is it possible to bind mouse3 to my 4 or 5 buttons on the side of my deathader? I think giving my useless thumb something to do would be great and go around the problem of having to click with my left finger.
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The only issue I see with Mouse3 camera control is it's speed...but the settings let you increase that, don't they? So in any case, they probably come out about even, and it's just preference.
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I use my mousewheel for important hotkeys. It's a habit I picked up back from AoE. I don't really see scrolling itself being very good in general (I use F keys) but the times when I do need to scroll, I doubt that the middle mouse button would make any difference whatsoever.
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On January 24 2011 09:57 TheDemigod wrote:
Actually using arrow keys to move is the most advantageous, of course this only applies if your hands are fast enough to not waste time on normal hotkeys. Because when you move with arrow keys you can continue you use your mouse, I believe this was used by pros on BW to macro lots of buildings.
I used to use keyboard for a long time in BW, but in hindsight (even while i was still playing BW) I had no idea how I could have done well with it. I assume it means using hotkeys less, and hand movement from one end to another. There's like no use of the keyboard for hotkey use.
Actually.... for the longest time now I've had a mouse that has little DIGITAL (sucks) control sticks on them
![[image loading]](http://www.digitalearthblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/sandio_3d_o2.jpg)
(a stick on each side of the mouse, and center)
I use actually use it for scrolling like keyboard keys... thing is I can't get use to the position of the control sticks. I don't know maybe I'll give it a shot (probably won't work out well, tried it before for other things)
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Mouse 3 scroll is great. I personally set the mouse 3 scroll sensitivity up to 80 and invert it, making it feel much more natural. The idea is that it doesn't replace edge scroll, it's just another tool in certain situations for better control.
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I assigned the screen move button to the thumb button on my Logitech G500, which I can reach quite comfortably. Works well instead of moving the mouse to the screen after some adjustment. But in the end either way is fine I think.
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Are there any pro gamers doing this?
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I dislike drag scrolling because your cursor does not move along with it. It is very confusing to my hands
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I use it alot, set it at a high sensitivity so i can use it like in bw and go from one corner of the map to another without having to click the minimap.
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It's very nice but as the middle mouse button on my mouse is pretty hard to click it's not really viable for me. Remapping it to one of the thumb buttons might be interesting but I haven't tried yet.
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i have a g9x... the middle button is too stiff (for once a problem), so i use the arrow keys
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I’ve been using this method since SC2 beta. I knew it was something I wanted to transition to because edge scrolling so inefficient.
My settings: Disable the wheel zoom. Invert movement (so it works like Google maps), and lastly, set the sensitivity to max. (I now have edge scroll set to the lowest settings).
It really is superior to edge scrolling. More precision and MUCH less mouse movement, thus you can lower the sensitivity on your mouse which allows for more accuracy. It took me a few weeks to get use to it and probably a full month before it became second nature. But now I would probably cry if I had to go back to edge scrolling. My wrist also gets less fatigued then when I was playing WC3 and I feel SC2 is a much more frantic game then WC3. I was never frantically jumping between 5 different maps locations in WC3 (which is common in SC2).
Also if you look at it from a pure efficient / ergonomic point of view it’s obviously superior. But many people have really refined their edge scrolling skills and don’t want to have to re-learn something new. I understand that but if you can force yourself to stick with it for a month I guarantee you’ll be glad you did.
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The former WC3 and current SC2 player SaSe used to play with the mouse-drag function in WC3. I would assume he'd be using the mouse-drag in SC2 as well. You can literally drag all the way across the map, which when you have practiced enough with it is faster than moving your mouse down to click the minimap and moving it back to the middle of the screen again.
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I can't get used to middle mouse button, cause it's so inferior to the way right click speedscroll in cnc games work.
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I am a huge fan of the f buttons to jump around the screen like while the beginning stuff happens ill stone to my ramp, etc.
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On January 24 2011 01:21 Uncultured wrote:
Every time I use it i accidentally zoom in, and fuck myself up somehow. That said I'm slowly finding it useful... When I observe games.
you can use key bindings to disable scroll up and down for zoom in and out
this way you don't mess up.
just a suggestion
Cheers
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On January 24 2011 14:36 Euronyme wrote:
Are there any pro gamers doing this?
saw a lesson of liquid`ret's where he swore by mouse3 at max sens
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Im gonna try binding it to a mouse button and see what happens
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I used to do the usual method, then I gave the middle button a shot. It is soooooo much better, mainly for the reasons stated by the OP. One thing I would say though is that it is hard to get used to the feeling, but after a week of doing it it really isnt uncomfortable.
Also, after doing middle mouse for a bit, my button stopped working because I rage and throw my mouse around. I tried going back to edge scrolling and it just felt 10x slower. Why on earth would you want to take the time to drag your mouse to the edge and then bring it back to wherever you need it? With the middle mouse its instant and the cursor stays at the middle of the screen, making it faster to do whatever you need to do next.
Middle mouse fighting!
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I click on the mini map... Scroll button moving the screen seems to slow and just doesn't feel right.
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They need to change this to how it was in WC3, but I still use it for small camera movements anyway.
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***Warning*****
Though getting used to using drag scroll (mouse button 3) to move around the map maybe be faster or more useful. It teaches you a Very bad habbit of barely looking at the mini-map.
If you watch pros stream you notice their had or eyes constantly moving up down up down up down. (game- minimap game-minimap) Because they use minimap to move around. and Reason why they always spot drops coming even if it showed a blimp in the mini-map for half a second.
As protoss even when i reached Plat I sometimes had hard time spotting drops even if it showed them coming in mini-map because i just did noticed it. I always used Dragscroll set at 100% to move aruond the map because it is soo easty to do and useful. I got the same tips from differently players on how to spot drops and still i always tend to forget during game. Til one day i got a tip from somoene. he asked me if i used dragsscroll. He said to turn it off for 1 week and try using the mini map to move around. After that week since i look at the mini map soo much from moving around map I spot most everything! It was honestly the best tip i ever got. I am now in Masters.
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Vatican City State582 Posts
I am not really a fan of this idea, because not only it's kind of uncomfortable on a Roccat Kone+, but also I am used to just clicking on the minimap.
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fwiw, I just have capslock rebound to move the screen, don't like the middle mouse button. it's good for close-by stuff, engagements etc, but if it's across the map, I either use location hotkeys or click on the minimap.
sometimes it makes me seem like I'm yelling at my opponents tho'
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Awareness of minimap doesn't contradict using mouse 3 for "scrolling", kiting along huge distance and whatnot... you're supposed to either click on the minimap directly, or set up crucial camera position beforehand.
tsdr: minimap awareness is key, no matter what
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I changed my mouse three to base cam so when i inject i just snap through hatches with it
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
The only thing i miss from C&C games is the Right-Click scrolling. It's so super fast.
It was good, because you were able to scroll with any speed, slow or fast, and speed was not fixed by parameter in game options. Just scroller, that increases intensity of that right-click scroll.
In sc2 we have "grab and move", that was uncomfort for me after playing much in C&C. So I've maxed out scroll speed from middle mouse button
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I use it very situationally. @person who said it's for 20 apm new-noobs, you're absolutely wrong. everything is preference. I have 200+ apm and use camera hotkeys, control groups, 95% scroll-speed.. but every once in a while I find it's convenient to drag my screen with my middle mouse-button as it's very precise and useful when you want your camera to be "just right". If you don't have a high scroll speed though, there probably isn't a reason to use it.
as far as mechanics goes though, this should NOT be your main way to navigate the map. Your main way to navigate should always always always be the Minimap, and camera hotkeys / army hotkeys.
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Don't think I could ever get used to that tbh. I remember back in the days boxer used the keyboard arrows for some reason. ^^
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I never used to use it because my mosue simply had a terrible middle click. My new one has a nice one though and i use it situationally. Usually only when stuff is happening at my natural. Easy to go between the main and nat quickly with it.
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On May 04 2012 06:53 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +The only thing i miss from C&C games is the Right-Click scrolling. It's so super fast. It was good, because you were able to scroll with any speed, slow or fast, and speed was not fixed by parameter in game options. Just scroller, that increases intensity of that right-click scroll. In sc2 we have "grab and move", that was uncomfort for me after playing much in C&C. So I've maxed out scroll speed from middle mouse button
This is something I missed for a ling time when I came from RA3 to SC2. It made the interface seem so clunky, somehow. SC2 had a lot of tools for you to reposition the camera, like location keys, drag scroll, keyboard scroll, edge scroll, but in RA3 all I ever needed was click and drag with the right mouse key, letting me move at any speed to any point on the map.
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I did this from the beginning because I was used to moving the camera by holding down a mouse button and "shoving" the camera around with the mouse. Granted it became a problem when I started going across long distances over the map using mouse3, but using the minimap in general is something I'm pretty bad at.
I prefer using that technique over side scrolling because it gives me the ability to decide the speed myself and since I have high mouse sensitivity I can move the camera as fast as maxed out side scrolling does. It doesn't matter anyway, use what you're comfortable with. I guess if you're at a level were it actually starts to matter you are probably worrying more about your upcoming code S match.
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This is how I control my camera, but I can understand that it's kinda weird. Most people are used to edge scrolling 'cause it's been common in games for forever.
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