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Ripzone
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany12 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:07:46
January 23 2011 17:07 GMT
#21
Didnt know about that, now Capslock finally got a function for me. I think pressing an additional key on the keyboard is more convenient for me then pressing my mousewheel :p
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
January 23 2011 17:08 GMT
#22
i click the minimap to move around
Natt
Profile Joined August 2010
France253 Posts
January 23 2011 17:09 GMT
#23
I do this and I highly recommend it. Once you get used to it, it is vastly superior to edge scrolling.
esp
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia109 Posts
January 23 2011 17:14 GMT
#24
Yeah definitely a +1 from me. I was always surprised that not many people use mouse 3 for scrolling. I always hear arguments like "if you're clicking the middle mouse button you can't click the left button!". When really that's as stupid as saying you can't use your index finger to press 5 if you're using your index to press 4.

With very little practice it becomes faaar superior.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
January 23 2011 17:17 GMT
#25
i feel that i have more control using the edge scrolling because iam used to it - but i will try to use the scroll wheel and see if i think thats an improvement or made it worse.

The only downside i possibly can see is that you have to move your mouse fingers and that maybe make you slower after you switch back to normal mouse operations.
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
January 23 2011 17:18 GMT
#26
I use this mouse 3 moving around a lot. I had to increase the sensitivity to make it more comfortable, but I find this to be the superior option.

Edge scrolling with mouse is too inaccurate for my taste. Scrolling with keyboard keys is also out of the question because it makes me unable to move mouse, which is bad. Either that, or prevents me from using hotkeys with my left hand (right hand is mousehand for me).

When you get used to it, I find the middle-mouse-camera control very, very accurate. It needs to be for me as a protoss, because I have to move my screen to where I am warping in units (you can't warp in via minimap, right?).

Or hm, maybe I should just hotkey the pylon I am using :p
machination
Profile Joined September 2010
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:21:47
January 23 2011 17:20 GMT
#27
i love mouse3 scrolling, drastically decreases the chance of mis clicking and is so much smoother.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
January 23 2011 17:21 GMT
#28
i used to do this.... but it's jus SOOOOOOO SLOW compared to edge scrolling (especially when your edge scrolling is super high)
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Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:21:26
January 23 2011 17:21 GMT
#29
On January 24 2011 01:14 Buddhist wrote:
A) It takes less movement of the mouse to position your screen, since it begins to move immediately instead of after you reach the screen's edge.

this is only true if you mouse is, for example, in the left-most corner of the screen and you want to click something that is slightly off to the right of the screen since you save the transportation from left-to-centre but you still have to do the centre-to-right part (which is included by default when using the edge-movement technique)

otherwise you are essentialy moving your mouse to the right side of the screen twice if you use the middle mouse wheel (assuming you want to click something to the right of where you screen is currently at)
machination
Profile Joined September 2010
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:24:43
January 23 2011 17:23 GMT
#30
On January 24 2011 02:21 Keitzer wrote:
i used to do this.... but it's jus SOOOOOOO SLOW compared to edge scrolling (especially when your edge scrolling is super high)


Playing a fair bit of Counter-Strike in my day, I'm used to wide sweeping motions when necessary. It's actually faster for me to mouse3 move compared to edge scrolling in most situations.

Both edge scrolling and mouse3 scrolling are set to 100% sensitivity for me as well.
fdsdfg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1251 Posts
January 23 2011 17:26 GMT
#31
I rebound mouse5 to drag and I use it exclusively (other than minimap clicking). I never drag screen corners or use arrow keys, it's just SO much slower. So easy to twitch a drag to look at your expo or something
aka Siyko
Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
January 23 2011 17:28 GMT
#32
I've used mouse3 since WC3. Never been a fan of edge scrolling, i'd rather have my mouse near the center of the screen as much as possible.
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Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:31:06
January 23 2011 17:28 GMT
#33
On January 24 2011 02:21 Jameser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 01:14 Buddhist wrote:
A) It takes less movement of the mouse to position your screen, since it begins to move immediately instead of after you reach the screen's edge.

this is only true if you mouse is, for example, in the left-most corner of the screen and you want to click something that is slightly off to the right of the screen since you save the transportation from left-to-centre but you still have to do the centre-to-right part (which is included by default when using the edge-movement technique)

otherwise you are essentialy moving your mouse to the right side of the screen twice if you use the middle mouse wheel (assuming you want to click something to the right of where you screen is currently at)

actually strike that I just realized your mouse is not centered when you use the mouse wheel so you are in fact adding travel time for your mouse (for clicking)

if you simply want to look at something however the two techniques appear equal with mouse wheel having the disadvantage of having a seperate motor-muscle memory response than what is (or should be) used for clicking
Krissam
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark189 Posts
January 23 2011 17:32 GMT
#34
I use this a whole lot.
I find that it gives me a lot better feeling of how far i need to move the screen.
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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:47:17
January 23 2011 17:35 GMT
#35
Honestly, if you are using hotkeys properly you shouldn't really need to do much scrolling anyways. I was curious as to how much scrolling I actually do, and its very minimal. I find its almost better to have the screen move at a comfortable smooth rate so that you have better control over it while you are attacking. The only time you ever really scroll is when doing fine control over a group of units, otherwise its all hotkeys or minimap clicks, which are faster by far.
Rosvall
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 17:39:41
January 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#36
I've bound this to MB4(or 5? No idea) instead of MB3 so that I do not accidentally scroll or have to move my fingers. I find it a lot EASIER to scroll the camera this way while pursuing since when you scroll from the edge of the screen you have to first go from where you are on the screen, then to the bottom (or sides or top) and then back to your target.

However while using the MB3 to scroll you're guaranteed always have less travel distance from your pointer to your goal.
RTP
ZombiesOMG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 18:21:04
January 23 2011 18:15 GMT
#37
Wow, didn't even realize there was a drag-scroll. Inverted it and played a couple games against AI to feel out this technique a bit and I kinda like it, will take some getting used to tho. It's great because, yea, it helps sc2 move a bit more like a design program.

However, my first run through with it feels like it's not quite fast enough and you have a little less control than in photoshop. My current amount of scrolling is minimal because of hotkeys, but if I get used to this then maybe drag will become a part of my gameplay. Too early to tell yet, but great tip OP! Thanks.

EDIT: Ballz, I forgot before commenting that you can increase drag scroll speed, so maybe I just have mine turned way down. lol. I'll fix that and give it another run through a little later today.
Sephiros
Profile Joined September 2010
United States24 Posts
January 23 2011 18:29 GMT
#38
Dude you're totally right. I've been using middle mouse drag since the game first came out and I find it completely superior. I'm not like on Idra pro level but I am top 4% in NA and working towards master league. I find it completely superior because it requires less random mouse movements on the edges of your screen and it's definitely a more smooth experience. Once you get used to it you never go back.
"Life is like riding a bicycle. You must keep moving to retain balance."
Mouth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States122 Posts
January 23 2011 18:40 GMT
#39
On January 24 2011 02:07 Ripzone wrote:
Didnt know about that, now Capslock finally got a function for me. I think pressing an additional key on the keyboard is more convenient for me then pressing my mousewheel :p

thats exactly what I was thinking of trying, hitting m3 all the time sounds annoying but caps lock sounds doable
Zaixer
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden82 Posts
January 23 2011 18:51 GMT
#40
After some testing the downfall of this method seems to be that you need to lift your mouse after doing this to reposition it on the mousepad.
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