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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
January 17 2011 20:47 GMT
#21
After a certain event in GSL, I have notice alot more tank usage in TvP. It seems that terran has come to learn that to fight in the late game, maybe tank is their only solution.

Also in TvT, i notice a big shift of banshee opening, which was insanely popular in the past few month, into 1 rax FE. Good thing i was ahead of the trend and I started 1rax FE way before banshee became the "thang." It make sense though, most terran can not be too aggressively early until a certain upgrade so they cant really do anything much. Such as stim or seige tech, which give you alot of time to bunker up and prepare seige yourself and your safe. All you really need to survive is probably 1 or 2 the most and quick seige and your FE is safe.

TvZ, it seems marine tank is the new thing now.

Glad to see that tank are starting to be appreciated now lol.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
January 17 2011 22:35 GMT
#22
What are your thoughts about the Tester vs Mvp game?
Daria
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia500 Posts
January 17 2011 22:39 GMT
#23
On January 18 2011 01:07 busbarn wrote:
Masters League only available in 1v1 right? Blizzard have any reason for not implement it to team leagues and ladders?

I think because Master League was implemented for the top 1v1 players for competition, and since 2v2/3v3/4v4 aren't really competitive, they won't implement it.
daria[e]
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 17 2011 23:36 GMT
#24
Been thinking about switching races more and more. I've only played Zerg since Brood War and never have touched the other races.

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 17 2011 23:37 GMT
#25
On January 18 2011 07:35 Joseph123 wrote:
What are your thoughts about the Tester vs Mvp game?



MVP reacts well to Testers decisions? We all know they weren't great games, but MVP outplayed tester, so thats about all there is to say
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
January 18 2011 00:32 GMT
#26
On January 18 2011 07:35 Joseph123 wrote:
What are your thoughts about the Tester vs Mvp game?


The games were pretty typical TvX these days. One base SCV all-in. Even an amazing macro player like MVP has no need to take the game into the late stages when he can simply end it right from the start with a single powerful push. I really hope Blizzard does something about this, its just terrible for everybody.
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
January 18 2011 00:41 GMT
#27
I would love to change my name back from JinX to Kolvacs T.T
aMEkaRmy
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada633 Posts
January 18 2011 00:41 GMT
#28
On January 18 2011 09:32 FrostedMiniWeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 07:35 Joseph123 wrote:
What are your thoughts about the Tester vs Mvp game?


The games were pretty typical TvX these days. One base SCV all-in. Even an amazing macro player like MVP has no need to take the game into the late stages when he can simply end it right from the start with a single powerful push. I really hope Blizzard does something about this, its just terrible for everybody.

They did a while back , SCVs had more life than all other workers . So all in worker attacks happend alot more often and for off races it was nearly impossiable to counter. Any race can all in with workers if they choose to and have the same affect.
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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 18 2011 00:49 GMT
#29
IdrA recently said the NaDa has the potential to be the best but he is just playing like he doesn't give a shit/barely practicing etc.. What are your thoughts on this TL?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Imalengrat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia365 Posts
January 18 2011 01:27 GMT
#30
In a PvT situation, what is the best way to deal with the terrans early pressure with marauders. It seems every time the poke into my base the zealots can't catch them and the stalkers just get owned. Would I require an early forge to protect my probes from there ultimate death?
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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
January 18 2011 01:36 GMT
#31
Just something I wanted to bring up that has been bothering me. It's pretty hard to find reliable, up to date build orders, and variety. The liquipedia is pretty scarce. I realize the game is new and all but there are a few matchups I've really been struggling with and it would be really nice to be able to find 2 or 3 standard safe solid builds with guidelines for reactions to what you scout. Any chance some of you masters or pros could put some of your favorite builds in there? I have 1 or 2 that I really like in pvz and tvz but I'm pretty lost in the mirror matchups and PvT. I'm also hesitant to contribute my builds because I'm not at a level of play where I can really call something viable or not.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
January 18 2011 01:41 GMT
#32
On January 18 2011 10:27 zester wrote:
In a PvT situation, what is the best way to deal with the terrans early pressure with marauders. It seems every time the poke into my base the zealots can't catch them and the stalkers just get owned. Would I require an early forge to protect my probes from there ultimate death?


You need to mix some sentries.

Use the force field in your ramp to halt the attack, or split to his army.

Early game as protoss is the hardest stage of the game :/
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
January 18 2011 01:44 GMT
#33
On January 18 2011 09:49 bkrow wrote:
IdrA recently said the NaDa has the potential to be the best but he is just playing like he doesn't give a shit/barely practicing etc.. What are your thoughts on this TL?



source pls?
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Blyadischa
Profile Joined April 2010
419 Posts
January 18 2011 01:58 GMT
#34
On January 18 2011 10:36 Reborn8u wrote:
Just something I wanted to bring up that has been bothering me. It's pretty hard to find reliable, up to date build orders, and variety. The liquipedia is pretty scarce. I realize the game is new and all but there are a few matchups I've really been struggling with and it would be really nice to be able to find 2 or 3 standard safe solid builds with guidelines for reactions to what you scout. Any chance some of you masters or pros could put some of your favorite builds in there? I have 1 or 2 that I really like in pvz and tvz but I'm pretty lost in the mirror matchups and PvT. I'm also hesitant to contribute my builds because I'm not at a level of play where I can really call something viable or not.


Standard build orders are an illusion. It took very long for standard build orders to develop in BW, and even then, they actually aren't used as common as you may think in pro games.

This applies to SC2 also, the pros don't do standard build orders. Yeah there are some, but they usually only extend up to at most 30 food and then the player decides to do whatever he/she wants. Only, in SC2, there hasn't been a long time for safe adaptable build orders to be created to be considered standard.

The better thing to learn is strategies. Things that you want to accomplish in each stage of the game. When strategies work, that's when you begin to work out timings and what not. Strategy creation and understanding of timings is much better and easier (IMO) to learn, because you do what you want to do, and shape it based on your style of play, not some guy who has better macro/micro than you. Of course, that isn't to say that you shouldn't take other people's build orders, but when you do it shouldn't taken food for food, the strategy should be taken out of it and understood, then perhaps a better build order or better use of the build order may result.
AceOfBlades
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia42 Posts
January 18 2011 02:34 GMT
#35
I played three PvZ's in a row where the P went VR/Phoenix into 5+ carriers. Random encounter or has anyone else experienced this??
Does it look contrived if a new member already has their own quote?
Kujawa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
January 18 2011 03:06 GMT
#36
Ive worked very hard to get from low bronze to rank 9 diamond and then blizz patches and now the masters league. Will i have to be in masters league to be taken seriously?
get the fuck out ball- hot_bid
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
January 18 2011 03:09 GMT
#37
On January 18 2011 12:06 Kujawa wrote:
Ive worked very hard to get from low bronze to rank 9 diamond and then blizz patches and now the masters league. Will i have to be in masters league to be taken seriously?


unless you are a pro, people probably wont take you seriously.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 18 2011 03:21 GMT
#38
On January 18 2011 10:44 YoiChiBow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 09:49 bkrow wrote:
IdrA recently said the NaDa has the potential to be the best but he is just playing like he doesn't give a shit/barely practicing etc.. What are your thoughts on this TL?



source pls?

Okay so please do not anyone discuss until i search through weeks of shit on TL to source this..

Im joking.. it was on the show with DJWheat.. what's it called.. um.. live on 3? I think? When they had IdrA as the guest interview
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
January 18 2011 03:38 GMT
#39
On January 18 2011 12:21 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 10:44 YoiChiBow wrote:
On January 18 2011 09:49 bkrow wrote:
IdrA recently said the NaDa has the potential to be the best but he is just playing like he doesn't give a shit/barely practicing etc.. What are your thoughts on this TL?



source pls?

Okay so please do not anyone discuss until i search through weeks of shit on TL to source this..

Im joking.. it was on the show with DJWheat.. what's it called.. um.. live on 3? I think? When they had IdrA as the guest interview


lol. i believe that he said it. i jsut wanna read the article for my own pleasure as it seems interesting.
dont get ur panties in a bunch pls.
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
January 18 2011 03:48 GMT
#40
On January 18 2011 12:38 YoiChiBow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2011 12:21 bkrow wrote:
On January 18 2011 10:44 YoiChiBow wrote:
On January 18 2011 09:49 bkrow wrote:
IdrA recently said the NaDa has the potential to be the best but he is just playing like he doesn't give a shit/barely practicing etc.. What are your thoughts on this TL?



source pls?

Okay so please do not anyone discuss until i search through weeks of shit on TL to source this..

Im joking.. it was on the show with DJWheat.. what's it called.. um.. live on 3? I think? When they had IdrA as the guest interview


lol. i believe that he said it. i jsut wanna read the article for my own pleasure as it seems interesting.
dont get ur panties in a bunch pls.

Hehe yeah sorry; um there was no article it was in a spoken interview on the Live on 3 with slasher and sir scoots and DJ Wheat.. he called in and got asked about being in Nada's group
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
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