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AcOrP
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria148 Posts
December 30 2010 07:45 GMT
#21
http://sc2ranks.com/team/618116#8:2010
628 plat > 546 diamond
Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
December 30 2010 08:00 GMT
#22
I think I lost like 100 or so. I barely had any points when I got promoted as the game had been out for like 2 weeks.
Soviet_Birthday
Profile Joined October 2010
United States48 Posts
December 30 2010 08:46 GMT
#23
Have gone from bronze to high platinum, lost about 250 to 300 or so points each time i jumped divisions


VanderLuust
NA server
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oogles
Profile Joined August 2010
United States29 Posts
December 30 2010 08:54 GMT
#24
I have a theory that when you get promoted you end up with the exact amount of points that are in the general bonus pool. It seems to have happened each time I am promoted. Can anyone else attest to this?
ChineseWife
Profile Joined August 2010
United States373 Posts
December 30 2010 09:32 GMT
#25
~1600 plat - ~1300 diamond, now ~2100
Oops I made no units
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
December 30 2010 09:53 GMT
#26
im a noob
bronze 1919 -> silver 1717
silver 2194 -> gold 2060
Put quote here for readability
Iskarott
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada37 Posts
December 30 2010 10:14 GMT
#27
422 Plat -> 336 Diamond
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 11:04:21
December 30 2010 10:59 GMT
#28
On December 30 2010 10:00 SDream wrote:
Everytime one gets promoted, it loses some points, so if it ever happen to you, can you please give me the information?


I actually gained some points at promotion one time. I'll edit if I can find it on sc2ranks.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/team/7325584

Granted, this is 4v4, but it's still the same system, right? My rating went up went I went from Gold to Platinum, although it went down for Diamond.
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Purpose2
Profile Joined August 2010
England187 Posts
December 30 2010 11:12 GMT
#29
1900 plat to 1850 diamond
1000 plat to 750 diamond
1500 plat to 750 diamond

guestimated from memory on my 3 accounts
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 11:18:25
December 30 2010 11:17 GMT
#30
i believe that the points you get after promotion are based on where you fit MMR wise into your division. Therefore you could technically gain points if the system put you into a division with high point players with lower MMR than you.

i might be talking out of my ass tho
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ShLiM
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria178 Posts
December 30 2010 11:24 GMT
#31
1.6k plat into 1.5k diamond 2days ago
IBASI ZMIQTA
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
December 30 2010 11:27 GMT
#32
Back in September, I lost a shitload..

like 1200 Plat to 400 diamond. It was really annoying =/
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kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
December 30 2010 11:44 GMT
#33
well according to sc2ranks i had 463 points once i was promoted to diamond, however i cant see how many points i had before ;( I assume it would be around 600 points
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SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 14:32:58
December 30 2010 13:12 GMT
#34
SC2ranks don't have the exact moment you got promoted. It will state that you got promoted when he sees that last time it checked you were on another league, but it doesn't mean that the points it shows are accurate. It's better than nothing and for some people it might actually be accurate, specially the ones after dec 18, so I am trying to use it to see the pattern.

What could I grasp till now:


As I have no way to guarantee that the numbers you give me are perfect, it gets harder to be precise, but it seems the leagues offsets are around 180 points till platinum. Then it changes drastically for diamond, cause people that will get promoted to rank S divisions will lose more than 500 points, but people that will get promoted to rank e divisions will lose only 180 or so. That means indeed that we can estimated the division rank by points lost on promotion, though I still don't know what are the magic numbers.

Please, feed me with good data :D
Dudely
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada19 Posts
December 30 2010 13:16 GMT
#35
OP, I hope you aren't planning on trying to use points as some sort of insight into how Blizzard ranks you. They have said themselves that points are just a carrot and have no bearing on anything. It's designed so that the person who plays the most will climb to the top of their little division. Your hidden MMR is what matters.
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-30 14:00:11
December 30 2010 13:30 GMT
#36
On December 30 2010 22:16 Dudely wrote:
OP, I hope you aren't planning on trying to use points as some sort of insight into how Blizzard ranks you. They have said themselves that points are just a carrot and have no bearing on anything. It's designed so that the person who plays the most will climb to the top of their little division. Your hidden MMR is what matters.


Don't worry, I understand that. (I've read the Excalibur_Z's thread and even contributed a little)

But if you discount the bonus pool it's a really good, though not perfect, guess.

Also, do you see all these players that went straight into diamond from bronze?? The system do take his time to promote and demote players, but that doesn't mean you aren't on that level just yet.

What I'd like to do is:

Players Points - Spent Bonus Pool + Leagues and Divisions Offsets = the closest thing to (Imperfect) MMR as we can possible get

PP - SBP + L&DO = IMMR
ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
December 30 2010 13:33 GMT
#37
716 plat -> 486 diamond
Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
December 30 2010 14:04 GMT
#38
I went from 2000ish Plat to 1700ish Diamond
kjetulf
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway62 Posts
December 30 2010 14:12 GMT
#39
1105 gold -> 966 platinum
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
December 30 2010 14:42 GMT
#40
This person is the closest thing as good data I've found on sc2ranks:

http://www.sc2ranks.com/team/9586520

Why is it a good sample?

1) The "pictures" were taken from hours (instead of days or weeks) of difference, getting more reliable.

2) It's from a know division (Rank S), which means we already know half the math.
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