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Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
December 15 2010 11:42 GMT
#101
The real question to me is why GOM waits over a week after the semifinals to play the finals when they have no such delay between the quarters and the semis. The semifinals were completed december 10th when the quarters were december 8th; why wait an entire 8 days to play the finals? That just is too long.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 11:43:51
December 15 2010 11:43 GMT
#102
On December 15 2010 20:42 Lunares wrote:
The real question to me is why GOM waits over a week after the semifinals to play the finals when they have no such delay between the quarters and the semis. The semifinals were completed december 10th when the quarters were december 8th; why wait an entire 8 days to play the finals? That just is too long.


They change venue and set up a big event. So I'm guessing they need time to set everything up and get people. Could be wrong though.
SeF
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil34 Posts
December 15 2010 11:43 GMT
#103
People are overreacting.
Balance patch or not, players will just need to adapt their play. A good player will know what to do, even If this particular patch being kinda a Terran's nerf + Protoss's buff.

Anyway, I agree that Blizzard could wait...won't hurt anyone.
Now it's too late to do anything I guess hahah
If they release the patch, people will complain. And If they don't release the patch, people will say "Blizzard only cares about Korean tournaments blah blah blah". I don't blame. Blizzard must win rivers of money from the Koreans.
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
December 15 2010 11:45 GMT
#104
i hope the ladder resets on thursday then. that'd make an excellent start to my winter vacation
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smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 11:49:28
December 15 2010 11:48 GMT
#105
Well I dont actually want to add to the discussion whether it is a good or not. Since for me its obvious and I dont even feel like arguing about that.

But everyone who posted actually agrees to one point though nobody really mentioned it.

BNET 2.0 SUCKS BIG TIME !
Especially for running tournaments. We need Lan or special tournament servers.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
December 15 2010 11:49 GMT
#106
On December 15 2010 20:45 corpsepose wrote:
i hope the ladder resets on thursday then. that'd make an excellent start to my winter vacation



I agree with this point it means on my vacaion bnet shouldnt go down for maintenance and server updates
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RoK Ot7Er
Profile Joined June 2010
United States219 Posts
December 15 2010 13:23 GMT
#107
Looking at the changes from the PTR, I really don't think this is a huge deal.

The only thing thats really affected is the phoenix build time and the slightly lower observer cost.

I can't see either of these affecting the outcome of a finals.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
December 15 2010 13:30 GMT
#108
On December 15 2010 22:23 RoK Ot7Er wrote:
Looking at the changes from the PTR, I really don't think this is a huge deal.

The only thing thats really affected is the phoenix build time and the slightly lower observer cost.

I can't see either of these affecting the outcome of a finals.


There is the scv repair priority fix. That could affect the outcome.

One one hand, the balance changes are not that big and they do lead to a more balanced game, but on the other hand, Blizzard's not giving the pros the time to adapt to the small changes when they could easily delay the patch a couple days.
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Bull-Demon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States582 Posts
December 15 2010 13:49 GMT
#109
I agree with a ladder reset coinciding with my winter break. Although I'm looking forward to being actually able to play at all really.
~_~
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
December 15 2010 14:01 GMT
#110
Actually this patch should make the final games more balanced, cause that's a balance patch, and it is made for a reason - to balance the game.

^^
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
December 15 2010 14:22 GMT
#111
I can already see the hordes of angry nerds posting "Why am I not Master's League?? I was XXXX point Diamond before the patch."
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Pbartender
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands55 Posts
December 15 2010 14:22 GMT
#112
I don't really care how big the patch is – any patch that changes gameplay should be relegated to "off-season". And it's not that Blizzard should then have to plan for every tournament; right now, the GSL is like a World Championship. Say FIFA would change how off-sides work; they would definitely not do this during a soccer World Cup or Euro, but if some national league or cup was affected, they would not care.
In my head, I'm a 1500 Diamond player. In reality, I don't even know what that means. I don't play SC2. I just watch.
us.insurgency
Profile Joined March 2010
United States330 Posts
December 15 2010 14:41 GMT
#113
On December 15 2010 18:37 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 18:34 PhiliBiRD wrote:
whos JunkkaGom?
link to thread?

honestly it wont really change much, being that PTR has been out ppl have probably tested builds already. not to mention MC will outclass Rain by a mile. wont have the slightest effect imo

regardless, i sure as hell hope it comes this week!

Troll?

Or you haven't been into sc2 scene much which then I apologise for calling troll.

PTR is US only atm so most koreans won't be able to test anything unless they have an account.
This new patch is going to buff Protoss so badly in air LOL.

MC lives with Team Liquid so i think thats a possibility. The balance changes for the new patch are not very significant. Rain just needs to be ready to see more phoenixes faster.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 15 2010 14:43 GMT
#114
so on page 4 people started to get the idea that the patch will just implement bnet 2 features and not ingame balancing, that was actually pretty fast. Either way they can patch regions seperatly and probably will.
On the other hand i don't know anything about the reactions that went directly towards blizzard when they did a balance patch while gsl was running (the ultra thingie and bugging the phoenix etc). Like people spamming them with mails or gsl people writing an evil letter. If the reaction was in the normal "we hate the firm that made this" way, they probably will go on doing it.
Proto_Protoss
Profile Joined September 2010
United States495 Posts
December 15 2010 14:44 GMT
#115
I thought blizzard would do this patch right after New years. New Year new Ladder right? right? but blizzard in their own intelligence decides on the day before GSL finals...WHAT?!
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 14:51:36
December 15 2010 14:45 GMT
#116
"You can't patch 2 days before major tournament"
Of course THEY CAN.
What's stopping them? Nothing. Will anything stop them? No. Why? Is this game Yours? Well,no. Is Blizzard Yours? No.
I am happy that patch comes so fast. I don't care about GSL and how it is doing.

EDIT:
Same way You could say using new start in finals only is "cheating","wrong" because they "did not use to do it" etc etc.
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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
December 15 2010 14:45 GMT
#117
It's not like this balance patch is that huge or anything. Had it been something that changed entire openings like the Terran nerfs, it would be different.

10 seconds off Phoenix and 20% Void Ray damage to Massive is gonna barely hurt anything. It's not like you have to relearn the matchup.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
December 15 2010 14:46 GMT
#118
Wow, thats crazy. Odd they couldn't wait a few more days.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
December 15 2010 14:50 GMT
#119
On December 15 2010 23:45 Tump wrote:
It's not like this balance patch is that huge or anything. Had it been something that changed entire openings like the Terran nerfs, it would be different.

10 seconds off Phoenix and 20% Void Ray damage to Massive is gonna barely hurt anything. It's not like you have to relearn the matchup.

The real problem is the when they do stuff like this things like FD ultralisk bugging his way to the finals (Not that he didn't deserve it but still)
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BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 14:52:17
December 15 2010 14:50 GMT
#120
Umm... have you guys watched the GSL... MC is going to 4-1 this. And did you guys ever think that blizzard is balancing it before the Finals SO THAT THE GAME IS FAIR?

Blizzard is balancing it so that the finals is played as balanced as it can be. The Phoenix buff is only going to be good as a tech switch when viking numbers get big. Opening Phoenix against a bio ball is just stupid... Yeah it could do damage, but at any time the terran can basicly all-in you and kill you (PFFT RAIN DOESN'T DO THAT EL OH EL) The only reason to open phoenix is if you see him teching early.

+ some idiot said that the scv repair fix would change the match-up. GOOD! as a terran player i laugh when people attack my PF. PF>80 food army.
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
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