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On December 15 2010 19:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote: MC told me he thinks this wont be a balance patch, then next week the balance patch comes.
2 Pages ago... can you people just read what's already said? there is _NO_ balance patch on thursday.
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Is this just a rumor, or is the patch confirmed hitting tomorrow?
Is there any validation to this? I looked through the 6 pages here and didn't see any......
By validation, I mean a Blizzard rep stating the 1.2 patch is hitting tomorrow.
EDIT: By 1.2 patch I mean chat channels. Balance changes can hit after GSL is Blizzard has any common sense, in like a small 1.2.1 patch.
SUPER EDIT: I'm blind. reading comprehension ftl. >.<
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On December 15 2010 23:51 Markus138 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 19:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote: MC told me he thinks this wont be a balance patch, then next week the balance patch comes. 2 Pages ago... can you people just read what's already said? there is _NO_ balance patch on thursday.
Not to disrespect Jinro or MC, but this is not proof. I believe John's post about the patch, since they had to change the GOM schedule. But as far as I know, MC knows as much as we do about the new patch.
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I think every serious team will have at least 1 account that is able to play on PTR if they dont that would be bad - especially because blizzard doesnt give a damn if there is a huge tournament. They patch whenever they think the patch is ready to release.
Well looking forward to the patch (as a zerg player) i think there will be less losses because terran cant abuse PF´s anymore - Protoss air was the strongest before and it will be the strongest after the patch so that change doesnt bother me - if the toss wants air dominance in PvZ he anyways can get it 99times out of 100 games.
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God Forbid that pro players actually have to adapt to new balance changes and builds on the fly...
instead of going at eachother with pre-praticed builds they've done 5000 million times in their sleep..
geeez.. 
I thought being good, meant being intelligent, adaptive, and strategically superior to whatever may come in they way... :D
roll on the patch please.
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On December 16 2010 01:10 Oconomist wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 23:51 Markus138 wrote:On December 15 2010 19:30 Liquid`Jinro wrote: MC told me he thinks this wont be a balance patch, then next week the balance patch comes. 2 Pages ago... can you people just read what's already said? there is _NO_ balance patch on thursday. Not to disrespect Jinro or MC, but this is not proof. I believe John's post about the patch, since they had to change the GOM schedule. But as far as I know, MC knows as much as we do about the new patch.
Usually I would agree, but is a situation of a player who prepares for the final of the biggest tournament in Strarcraft 2 right now. It is not that hard for Blizzard to give him this information.
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Could you imagine if this patch did happen who ever loses would just be like I BLAME BLIZZARD. What a mess it would be there would be like 5 different thread discussion about well what if the patch didnt happen...
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so dumb if blizzard releases it before gsl
but if its not a patch balance then it should be fine
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It must be rough for Blizzard when people believe that they should adhere to the sooooo many external factors involved in their schedule. There are a lot of people at Blizzard who love the GSL so I'm sure the reason for their patch date supercedes the importance of the GSL. : /
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Er, if you guys remember there were other patches that were in inconvenient times - in GSL1 the first siege/reaper nerf (as well as Ultra bug) came around the Round of 16 just before Fruitdealer vs. TOP. The major zerg buffs came right after GSL2 qualification rounds so although only 15 zergs qualified, a good majority were able to to continue to later rounds.
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Good job being fucking retarded blizzard.
wtf blizzard
Assuming the patch does come on Thursday....
I'm going to have to disagree entirely with the TL crew here. If Blizzard wants to push a patch on Thursday, it is absolutely acceptable. They have provided a PTR for pros and everyone else to practice on so that it would not be an issue. Here's the way I see it: If you're really hardcore or pro about sc2 then you will have already practiced on the PTR. If you haven't then you're not really preparing for the future very well.
Additionally, Blizzard's motivation to get patches out on time for the public outweighs many pro player concerns and tourneys. Their obligations are to appease the public - which is 99% (this ratio is a guess) of players anyway.
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On December 16 2010 01:55 CherubDown wrote:Additionally, Blizzard's motivation to get patches out on time for the public outweighs many pro player concerns and tourneys. Their obligations are to appease the public - which is 99% (this ratio is a guess) of players anyway.
I agree fully. Especially if its either this week or next year, given employees going on vacation.
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Goddamn if they release the patch before the final. MC would have like 99.99% win with his VRs,, no more SCVs repair that killed HongUn =))
Only thing left is nerf the marauders lol
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Not saying Blizzard doesn't care about their own tourney / tourneys in general, but they already patched while a big World Of Warcraft tourney was running and the patch actually changed the complete balance.
So.. its not like they would make an exception for Starcraft 2 I guess.
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does this mean ladder reset as well?
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yeah they probably doesnt have anymore time. next week is probably vacation week ( Xmas New Year Break) so if they don't patch it this week they wont have it up before 2011.
If they dont have it up before 2011, the masses will slam them for not keeping their promises of having a major patch before the turn of the year. Prolly only a minority of SC2 people cares about GSL so they decide to go with what's best for the majority ( or prolly not, they just do whatever they feel like which is alright in my book)
And this just shows that GSL is not given preferential treatment. Otherwise all competitions like IEM/MLG/Dreamhack will start asking for exemptions for no patches during their tourneys and there will be no end of it.
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If the game isnt balanced, why would you complain about adding in a new patch. Isnt it just as bad to say, lets leave the game imbalanced for the finals. At least they have some time to practice. Could be a lot worse!
Disagree? Let me know, Adun.
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On December 16 2010 02:01 G.s)NarutO wrote: Not saying Blizzard doesn't care about their own tourney / tourneys in general, but they already patched while a big World Of Warcraft tourney was running and the patch actually changed the complete balance.
So.. its not like they would make an exception for Starcraft 2 I guess.
yes very true. And like that there was mass blaming of tourney results based on patch. So if patch does come and MC wins....There will be an terran outcry like never heard before. If Rain wins then it will be "he is just the better player" mentality.
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Yay, new patch soon? People are so negative in this thread about how it is affecting the GSL. It is quite likely that Blizzard has been planning this patch for months. Its really not their job to schedule content release and patches around tournaments, especially since if they don't release it this week, the patch wouldn't come out until January since I doubt Blizzard will be working over Christmas break. I personally would rather get the new patch now, so I have all winter break to play it, since I really won't have any time to game it up next semester.
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Only big changes are the SCV targeting AI and phoenix build time. And again, only if these strats are used. They aren't very popular in the GSL at the moment.
Observer cost decrease isn't a big deal. If your margin of victory is defined by 25 gas, then shit. I guess I'm wrong.
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