• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:15
CEST 16:15
KST 23:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!17Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)84Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
August World Ranking Watchlist: Serral back to #1? How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
Animated Gateway BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11605 users

New Patch on Thursday already ? - Page 9

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 18 Next All
megagoten
Profile Joined October 2010
318 Posts
December 15 2010 19:44 GMT
#161
maybe blizzard should release it mid-tournament just to troll you guys
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 15 2010 19:44 GMT
#162
On December 16 2010 03:09 Gravner wrote:
Show nested quote +
I can already see the hordes of angry nerds posting "Why am I not Master's League?? I was XXXX point Diamond before the patch."
I already see hordes of angry nerds posting.


I'm ready for people to post "I'm XXXX in masters league and I think that it's ok to not scout".

Phoenixes though, yay
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
FrostedMiniWeet
Profile Joined July 2009
United States636 Posts
December 15 2010 19:46 GMT
#163
Meh, all this does is make MC's victory more set in stone, as this patch is an all around protoss buff and Terran nerf. Rain is going to be rolled.
tok
Profile Joined April 2010
United States691 Posts
December 15 2010 19:53 GMT
#164
Regardless of the patch notes the better player will win, as always.

I'm excited for a more social starcraft hopefully I'll get promoted quicker now that people are getting put into masters/gm league.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
December 15 2010 19:58 GMT
#165
Blizzard would be stupid to wait unless they wanted to wait 3 or so weeks. This impacts the tiniest fraction of players if you're worried about GSL. Im sure blizzard is just making a killing off of e-sports (im doing a huge jack off motion with my hand right now you just cant see it).

Think of it like this... there was a time where in World of Warcraft a real competitive community existed. Over time, despite the competitive community crying the loudest, they nerfed the game into oblivion and took away the challenges to cater to the masses. Though your complaints dont fall on deaf ears, try to view it from a business perspective.

Do you
a) release a patch a few days before christmas, probably with many staff members unavailable if problems arise

or

b) release it with some buffer time so that during the holidays the server can maintain themselves a bit.

Or how about this... what do you think is worse to them?
a) impacting a small amount of players with the innopportune timing

or

b) having a significant amount of players with alot of free time due to the holidays, unable to play their favorite game because they dont have the personnel available to deal with problems that seem to always accompany patch release.

How much time do they even have between GSL seasons? It seems like these things are always running. You can't expect a company to accommodate some third party all the time with no financial return. Do you honestly think anything they make off of the competitive gaming scene comes close to being worth making poor business decisions?

Its unfortunate, but blizzard, like all companies, is a living, breathing organism.. .its going to look after itself first.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
December 15 2010 19:59 GMT
#166
not gonna matter much as the tournament winner is pretty much known to most people that follow it
FlashDave.999 aka Star
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
December 15 2010 19:59 GMT
#167
I mean, if anything it's just going to make MC win 4-0 even more than he was already going to. nbd.
BetterFasterStronger
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States604 Posts
December 15 2010 20:03 GMT
#168
On December 16 2010 04:59 universalwill wrote:
I mean, if anything it's just going to make MC win 4-0 even more than he was already going to. nbd.

hes going to 8-0 him now. Its going to be so rape that it will seem like he got raped 2x more then usually. Instead of 1 black guy, there were 2. THATS how rape it will be.
Top 200 as Protoss - Switched to Terran. 0-30 against EGiNcontroL... God damnet
aquanda
Profile Joined January 2003
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 20:56:07
December 15 2010 20:55 GMT
#169
The balance patch changes so little I don't see it being an issue. The biggest change was to VR (how many GSL games have you seen people getting the speed upgrade or using them to counter Thors?) and ramp blocking, with the SCV targeting and a few other changes which are simply good all around at removing randomness from the matchups.

EDIT: And Rain will get stomped no matter what, even if they buffed the shit out of Terran he doesn't stand a chance.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
December 15 2010 20:57 GMT
#170
MC is gonna win anyways. Everyone knows it, even Rain probably knows it deep down in his heart.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 21:04:14
December 15 2010 21:02 GMT
#171
Well since I am switching from Terran to Protoss I say release it immediately. Rain will lose anyway so it will not change anything. Terran cannot compete with Protoss and the patch will not change that, just rub it in a bit harder.

Custom hotkeys are much more important to me than a GSL matchup that is decided before it is played.
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
December 15 2010 21:13 GMT
#172
they COULD release it right after the GSL, 3 days wait isnt that long tbh
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
December 15 2010 21:26 GMT
#173
On December 16 2010 06:02 MockHamill wrote:
Terran cannot compete with Protoss and the patch will not change that, just rub it in a bit harder.


Please stop posting, thanks. Simply idiotic.

Selfishly, I would like the patch asap but the e-sports shill in me wants Blizzard to wait till after this weekend. Kind've win-win I guess?
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
December 15 2010 21:42 GMT
#174
they would usually patch KR, TW and SEA first right? anything up yet?
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
imyzhang
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada809 Posts
December 15 2010 21:48 GMT
#175
if this is true, so much for fuckin blizzard giving a shit about their players and the community. They say one thing, then come the patch, we find out that it's a few days before a huge gsl match. -_-
bleh
Erectum
Profile Joined August 2010
France194 Posts
December 15 2010 21:49 GMT
#176
On December 16 2010 06:42 lofung wrote:
they would usually patch KR, TW and SEA first right? anything up yet?


i think us is always first, am i wrong ?

Then UE then asia
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
December 15 2010 21:55 GMT
#177
On December 16 2010 02:48 1Eris1 wrote:
why are people saying if MC loses this will be bullshit? the person that has the right to complain is rain. he will have a harder time. MC will just have an easier time. and if MC is worried about the phoenxies screwing up his BO or whatever, he can just pass over them. honestly


this.

ppl will shut up once MC wins.
lofung
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong298 Posts
December 15 2010 21:56 GMT
#178
On December 16 2010 06:49 Erectum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 06:42 lofung wrote:
they would usually patch KR, TW and SEA first right? anything up yet?


i think us is always first, am i wrong ?

Then UE then asia

according to past experience its the asian first. dunno about EU though
How do you counter 13 carriers? Well first of all you gave me brain cancer. -Tasteless
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 15 2010 21:57 GMT
#179
On December 16 2010 06:55 PhiliBiRD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 02:48 1Eris1 wrote:
why are people saying if MC loses this will be bullshit? the person that has the right to complain is rain. he will have a harder time. MC will just have an easier time. and if MC is worried about the phoenxies screwing up his BO or whatever, he can just pass over them. honestly


this.

ppl will shut up once MC wins.


It seems to change. Sometimes US is first, sometimes Korea, sometimes Europe. Seems random
When I think of something else, something will go here
FreedomPeacer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada67 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 22:09:49
December 15 2010 22:09 GMT
#180
On December 16 2010 02:42 BuzzJuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 19:25 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On December 15 2010 19:18 Tyree wrote:
On December 15 2010 19:11 dkby wrote:
If they wait for this tournament, they'll have to do so for every other tournaments, and it would be a pita to patch the game.

At the moment, patch > tournament imho.



This, because if Blizzard decided to wait, 1000+ topics would spring up that "Blizzard only cares about Korean tournaments", "Blizz hates foreigners omg" and "Blizz would never postpone a patch for a EU/US tourney!" and other such nonesense.

Basically whatever Blizzard does, the large part of the community has shown they will never be happy about it, so they might aswell just dive right into what they want to do.


I support this point of view.

The majority of people will definitely moan about whatever choice Blizzard takes.
If Blizzard considers this Patch to be more balanced than the previous there should actually be no reason not to patch now.

Now whether the patch actually IS more balanced is another story. And of course the timing is rather bad but then again GOM decided to wait a ridiculous amount of time before starting of the finals.

Edit:
And yeah Shockks point is true as well.
Sorry hyper-competitive SC2 scene but it's still a gaming company with customers. Take a guess how many of those SC2 customers care about GSL? A rather low percentage. So that's another factor.


Bullshit. Fucking bullshit. We have been complaining about chat channels, balance and all that jazz for months. When the hell did Blizzard even listen to us? And what the hell does it mean that SC2 @ GSL is too small? These guys PAY to see SC2. Don't they matter more than us freeloaders? And since when is it that small? Do you know how many pay for that crappy premium GOM stream for the GSL?

And let's say they cared. Let's say they really were worried about angry trolls on forums, shouldn't pay more attention to something which has actual money on the line like $130,000 worth rather than a bunch of angry gamers? What, are they gonna say GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK!

Really. They need to delay balance patches. Something that could cost someone nearly 80,000 matters a whole lot more than forum flame wars.



except when you buy starcraft 2 the only thing that gives you is a right to play the game, not the right to win money. blizzard wouldnt owe crap
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 16
IntoTheiNu 1465
WardiTV589
RotterdaM487
Ryung 484
TKL 203
Rex129
SteadfastSC127
EnkiAlexander 25
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 1302
Ryung 484
RotterdaM 424
TKL 203
Rex 131
SteadfastSC 127
BRAT_OK 50
RushiSC 13
trigger 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4901
Rain 2735
Jaedong 1580
Horang2 1246
EffOrt 636
BeSt 486
Light 443
firebathero 432
Soulkey 314
hero 246
[ Show more ]
Rush 236
Stork 221
ZerO 205
ggaemo 203
Snow 186
Soma 172
Zeus 129
Mong 100
sorry 86
Hyun 82
Dewaltoss 77
Pusan 67
Last 66
Leta 57
[sc1f]eonzerg 51
NaDa 50
ToSsGirL 41
Movie 32
JYJ 30
JulyZerg 28
yabsab 25
Hm[arnc] 23
GoRush 22
Aegong 18
Nal_rA 17
Sacsri 16
Sexy 15
Rock 15
IntoTheRainbow 13
Noble 13
Yoon 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
zelot 8
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
qojqva1766
syndereN365
XaKoH 340
XcaliburYe190
420jenkins33
League of Legends
KnowMe42
Counter-Strike
fl0m3417
Other Games
FrodaN4386
B2W.Neo713
hiko690
Lowko566
Mlord363
uThermal273
Liquid`LucifroN163
DeMusliM151
ArmadaUGS147
Pyrionflax146
ToD122
Trikslyr32
CosmosSc2 22
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 37
• poizon28 8
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2071
• WagamamaTV324
League of Legends
• Nemesis2549
• TFBlade744
Upcoming Events
OSC
9h 45m
CrankTV Team League
20h 45m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
CrankTV Team League
1d 20h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-21
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.