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I use the left handed standard scheme (believe it or not), and I'd never used the town view button before, as it's so far from the rest (F1).
I decided to give it a try last game, and found out... it simply doesn't work. F1 works fine when I watch a replay, but when I use it in a game it just shows the achievement screen. Just thought I'd share. It's great that Blizzard put options for lefties, but they might want to actually test them next time...
For me, the patch will change everything. Starcraft 2 is about to get serious. I've always known I would change the hotkeys eventually, so I knew I would have to re-learn everything. It's a shame we couldn't do that before, really.
So for a leftie: -% ^ $ and * are my new control groups 1 to 4 - "," is my new advanced building button - backspace is now townview. It wasn't before. - baneling explosion will be something i can never reach, like 1 or a - enter to switch between commands in a selected group - ! is iddle worker
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Can you in beta assign ` key to town camer view (backspace)?
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On December 26 2010 22:01 GORECHESTRA wrote: 1 - it's been asked before but went unanswered (or i just didnt look right).. can you indeed modify _every single_ key except shift/alt/ctrl? so it's possible to relocate the current backspace, space and tab functions?
On December 26 2010 22:34 Allscorpion wrote: can we reassign backspace to F for example for easier spawn larva?
On December 28 2010 19:06 Alpina wrote: Can you in beta assign ` key to town camer view (backspace)?
we demand answers.
please oh please..
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I'd change CTRL for ALT, and, if I could, town camera to C. In that way I can shift V and then C for fast injects.
I can't wait for this.
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Patch is now live! After playing with the new hotkeys I could not imagine going back to the old system.
If you are a pro gamer or just want to play like one you really should be optimizing your hotkey layout. All other things being equal it is the difference between winning and losing.
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Hey Shurafa im very interested in changing my hotkeys. Im using grid right now. Maybe u could write a guide or something it would be very interesting to the community.
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On December 18 2010 04:12 photomuse wrote: My primary hotkeys:
DFG - Macro Control Groups (nexus, buildings, pylon as toss) CVB - Army Control Groups AS - build command (basic,advanced) as worker) 2 - Cancel Build order WERT - Primary build keys (most common things) QASZX - Build less common things WERT - Upgrades ASW3 - Spells T - Attack R - Stop E - Hold Position
Regards
I really like this template. (Using the middle keys as your base hotkeys)
The problem I ran into with this is that you cannot get all of your hotkeys with this setup. WERT are your "primary build keys" what about non primary stuff? Its a bit combersome expecially for zerg since there are sooo many units you can produce.
If you could go into a little more detail as to how you deal with this type of issue it would be greatly appreciated.
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On January 22 2011 14:28 Shurafa wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 04:12 photomuse wrote: My primary hotkeys:
DFG - Macro Control Groups (nexus, buildings, pylon as toss) CVB - Army Control Groups AS - build command (basic,advanced) as worker) 2 - Cancel Build order WERT - Primary build keys (most common things) QASZX - Build less common things WERT - Upgrades ASW3 - Spells T - Attack R - Stop E - Hold Position
Regards I really like this template. (Using the middle keys as your base hotkeys) The problem I ran into with this is that you cannot get all of your hotkeys with this setup. WERT are your "primary build keys" what about non primary stuff? Its a bit combersome expecially for zerg since there are sooo many units you can produce. If you could go into a little more detail as to how you deal with this type of issue it would be greatly appreciated.
I don't know about zerg but for protoss everything fits pretty well with the "QASZX - Build less common things" I just tried this out and man its really straight forward makes controlling armys and unit production a lot easier atleast for me.Although I think I am going to throw x and h in as control groups aswell
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On December 18 2010 04:12 photomuse wrote: My primary hotkeys:
DFG - Macro Control Groups (nexus, buildings, pylon as toss) CVB - Army Control Groups AS - build command (basic,advanced) as worker) 2 - Cancel Build order WERT - Primary build keys (most common things) QASZX - Build less common things WERT - Upgrades ASW3 - Spells T - Attack R - Stop E - Hold Position
Regards
I think this layout has a lot of potential! Have you tried switching the macro and army control groups? I would think that optimizing your keys for unit attacks is the most important thing.
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I was pmed not long ago from a player looking for some hotkey tips and what not for zerg.
This is the PM I responded with, I think my effort that went in to it could help others here.
I can give you a few tips but only as to what I like to do, other then that I'm not sure how else I can help.
So to change layouts to start, you need to go to options>hotkeys and select something from the left side scroll bar. Here you can create your own custom hotkey profile, by starting on a blizzard layout and saving over it with a new name. Once you have created your own custom hotkey layout, you can start tweaking each hotkey.
First i'll go over my location spots. I set 2 of these F keys to my mouse's forward button and back button. I use a Lachesis from razer. Any mouse with side buttons will be able to use this wonderful feature.
I have changed my F1 key (idle worker) to my mouse scroll button, for fast easy splits in the beginning of games, as well as fast responses on idle workers. I use these buttons on my mouse to spread creep tumors. I will Shift+back mouse buttons or Shift+forward mouse button to save the locations after i have spread the tumors. Allowing me to quickly spread again after the next Inject cycle. To get good at spreading creep a good system is spreading after Injections.
F1, F2, F3 and F4 are now the F9 F10 F11 and F12 keys (blizzard set the location keys to these(there so far on the key board i don't use them much))
My control groups are :
Was - Is now. 0 - ` 1 - 1 2 - 2 3 - 3 4 - 4 5 - 5 6 - 6 7 - 7 8 - Q 9 - Space Bar
These control groups are very nice for me as a Zerg player.
Here are the other hotkey changes i have made:
W - Base Camera E - Inject E - Unborrow R - Burrow Tab - Next subgroup Caps Lock - Previous sub group R - Melee attack upgrade T - Ranged attack upgrade Y - Carapace upgrade R - Flying attack upgrade T - Flying carapace Y - Infestation pit Y - Infetor (larva) D - Unload all B - Ultralisk den B - Ultralisk (larva)
Ok that about covers all the hotkey changes. I'll go over my set ups now in game as zerg.
Control groups - Assigned function. ` - Harassment units. (Mutas, Lings, Infestors (Corrupters vs Toss)) 1 - Fast units (Lings,Roach) 2 - Slow units or meaty units Q - Infestors (If i have them.), or my whole army. Space bar - Banelings (If i have them.) or my whole army. 3 - All Hatcheries 4 - All Queens 5 - Creep spreading queen or whole army if not yet assigned. 6 - Evo chambers and Spire 7 - Important Buildings
I will use tab and caps lock to cycle through my upgrade buildings and important unit structures for upgrades.
This concludes all of my changes, Its important to keep in mind to change hotkeys to what your comfortable too. Just because this works well for me it may not for you. I suggest trying my way if you like it. Then tweak it to your standards.
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I really like how specialized your setup is Chef! I think that players who play one race can really maximize the potential of custom hotkeys as you only have to make it work for one race!
The problem I have run through playing random is that you need to make a set of hotkeys that works for all three races.
I have added details about my current setup here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209178
Basically it uses 1-Z as a vertical macro line with Capslock, G.` and Mouse 4,5 as the micro control groups. I dubbed it the "Cartesian" Hotkey setup as originally it used Caps Lock - F as the micro control groups (like the X, Y plane for you mathheads out there).
PS For those looking to compete with a give set of hotkeys stay away from any programs that remap your mouse/keyboard keys as they will most likely not be allowed in LAN competitions. (Any custom hotkeys saved to Battlenet will be allowed though!).
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