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i downloaded this game before i bought it just to check it out im new to the starcraft series
i wouldnt have bought it if i haddent downloaded it first as i simply didnt know the game was any good
theres so much shite released these days in the last year i have played many games most were uninstaled within the first day
starcraft 2 is a solid game so i went out and bought it im sure im not the pnly person who does this the person who uploaded it may have generated significant sales for blizard
as for 2.3 million downloads does not meen 2.3 million illegal copys people may download multiple copys trying to find one that works people may not like it and delete it and also how many people had the game on order and installed a pirate copy whilst they waited for there copy to arive from amazon
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Havent been a game out for years I've been intrested in buying except SC2, I pirated dragonage, didnt like i, threw it away after a mere 2 hours thats the extent of games that could've been fun and that I could've bought. As usual, trying the full version and finding out its actually crap before giving the company $$$ for their product I'am not gonna bother with is a good thing; y
Musicians and artists not being able to live on their work because of piracy?
Its realy bad that it no longer works selling a plastic disc for outrageous money for two good tracks that you hear on the radio all the time, damn shame the artist have to spend time on the road, singing and playing as in the past.
All in all, the people who are creative will create because it is in their nature, does not matter if they live on a dime. By piracy we are spreading culture and doing free marketing; it is a bad thing for record companies. Suddenly the most marketing budget does not decide what people listen to.
Spend 10 M $ to make sexy hot chicks #164 and #173 into 'The next thing people!', well the people say '164/173 is crap dont buy their shit, here listen to this girl on youtube, damn I wish I could send her some cash or watch her play live because she got some nice tunes'.
That a sexy body, a voice not entirely bad, tracks produced for you and alot of marketing making you a perceived 'good artist' is not working out so well is good thing as this will hopefully let ARTISTS forward. Bob dylan wouldnt have risen fame in todays world, he would've been drowned by boobs and pretty faces singing songs about nothing, and Id say we are poorer thanks to how todays record companies run things, profit profit profit. Style, creativity, originality but no real looks? How are we gonna market you, move along you dont have what it takes to be an artist, get some plastic done, lose 20 pounds and then we'll talk.
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I, and nobody I know came anywhere near buying this game for the single player alone - we all wanted to get on battle.net and play each other and ladder games.
So really, it sadly justified Blizzard's LAN stance.
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We don't know if it's actually negative for Blizzard. I mean, the campaign is not what SC2 is about and it might make people buy the game for multiplayer.
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If i didnt downloaded SC1 i wouldnt have bought SC2....
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here's a question, if activision-blizzard makes like 100 million dollars off the game (3 million * 60 dollars is 180 so minus advertising, distribution and development costs and it's not that unreasonable) do they care how many people pirate it?
if I told any local business I would give them 100 million dollars but they might not sell anything for the next 20 years I bet they would take me up on it.
60 dollars for a single player game (which is what those shitty COD games are to me) is preposterous. Im not getting 60 dollars worth of fun out of those games. SC2? I've already played through the single player once and played about 100 games and that's just since the middle of October when I got it. Not to mention like 200 games during the beta. And I can continue to play the game and not be bored since people will come up with new strategies and hopefully we'll get new maps.
My suspicion is the majority of the people who pirated the game wanted to play the single player and then go on to the next game and didn't want to pay 60 dollars for a pc game.
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I was so pissed off at Blizzard for no-LAN, no cross realm play and so on that I was pretty damn close to not buying the game and just pirating it for the campaign.
I wish we had all pirated the game until Blizzard gave us LAN  That would have been good for everyone, for us and for Blizzard because they would've sold even more copies afterward.
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On November 16 2010 22:54 red_b wrote:
here's a question, if activision-blizzard makes like 100 million dollars off the game (3 million * 60 dollars is 180 so minus advertising, distribution and development costs and it's not that unreasonable) do they care how many people pirate it?
Exactly. These companies make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits, and yet they still bleat and whine that piracy is killing the industry. It's the same shit we've heard time and time again since the record companies claimed that cassette tapes would ruin everything. The simple fact is that piracy is rampant, and yet software and games companies still make huge profits. Either they would make bank-level money in the abscence of piracy, or their stance is idiotic.
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This is the reason we're NEVER getting LAN.
IIRC, BW was also pirated to hell and back.
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On November 16 2010 23:04 The Touch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 22:54 red_b wrote:
here's a question, if activision-blizzard makes like 100 million dollars off the game (3 million * 60 dollars is 180 so minus advertising, distribution and development costs and it's not that unreasonable) do they care how many people pirate it? Exactly. These companies make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits, and yet they still bleat and whine that piracy is killing the industry. It's the same shit we've heard time and time again since the record companies claimed that cassette tapes would ruin everything. The simple fact is that piracy is rampant, and yet software and games companies still make huge profits. Either they would make bank-level money in the abscence of piracy, or their stance is idiotic.
Thats a ton of money that was essentially stolen from them, they should have a right to be pissed, regardless of how much was stolen.
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On November 16 2010 23:08 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 23:04 The Touch wrote:On November 16 2010 22:54 red_b wrote:
here's a question, if activision-blizzard makes like 100 million dollars off the game (3 million * 60 dollars is 180 so minus advertising, distribution and development costs and it's not that unreasonable) do they care how many people pirate it? Exactly. These companies make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits, and yet they still bleat and whine that piracy is killing the industry. It's the same shit we've heard time and time again since the record companies claimed that cassette tapes would ruin everything. The simple fact is that piracy is rampant, and yet software and games companies still make huge profits. Either they would make bank-level money in the abscence of piracy, or their stance is idiotic. Thats a ton of money that was essentially stolen from them, they should have a right to be pissed, regardless of how much was stolen.
Stolen? Are you calling this theft?
That money was nowhere near stolen from them. Three million download copies != three million missed sales.
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On November 16 2010 12:05 schavoc wrote:
They can't play online... And the campaign isn't that fun... so, yea they fail
To others it is, I like to play it to warm up. Just gets the fingers going.
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On November 16 2010 23:17 Gigaudas wrote:
That money was nowhere near stolen from them. Three million download copies != three million missed sales.
98% of them wouldnt buy it anyway
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Pirating is obviously wrong but I can understand that other people do it considering how ridiculously little content you get for a huge ammount of money now adays. Personally my solution is not to get those games at all but some choose to pirate. But Starcraft 2 is clearly one of those games who has a huge ammount of content (or playability rather) for the ammount you spend. I don't think anyone can argue that the game is not worth bying unless they are very ill informed.
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If i hadn't pirated the game i would not have bought it.
Srsly, if actiblizzard is pissed bcause people have realised that a bnet 2.0, nolan game is full of shit they should try improving their quality, not blame "pirates" whose only crime is having common sense and being aware that their money has some worth.
I would somehow agree with blizzard if the game had a) LAN
b) Bnet similar to w3
c) cross-region play
d) stats deletion
Piracy is a reaction to companies bullying customers with shitty policies, over priced - low quality goods.
Fuck those bastards in the arse.
Yes, im mad about it.
Do you know how may potential customers they have lost bcause of NO LAN POLICY?. For what i see with my friends is that they are not interested on buying the game because they can't test multiplayer battles out. If they had free-pirated lan, and had enjoyed the game they would actually buy the game. I can't imagine how much people they are loosing on a no-lan party policy. God dammit close-minded a-holes.
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I'm a game developer/programmer and I support torrents. It has led me to either buy the game or invest in the sequels of the game. I dont have the time and money. But having the torrent lets me demo the game long enough to make the buying decision.
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Oh yeah, i forgot, retarded LANGUAGE POLICY. Can't play the game in english cuz blizzard thinks im an illiterate spic.
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On November 16 2010 22:31 Kaasflipje wrote:
We don't know if it's actually negative for Blizzard. I mean, the campaign is not what SC2 is about and it might make people buy the game for multiplayer.
Its not, Blizzard is happy with the current numbers. One of my links talks about this.
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On November 16 2010 23:04 The Touch wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 22:54 red_b wrote:
here's a question, if activision-blizzard makes like 100 million dollars off the game (3 million * 60 dollars is 180 so minus advertising, distribution and development costs and it's not that unreasonable) do they care how many people pirate it? Exactly. These companies make hundreds of millions of dollars in profits, and yet they still bleat and whine that piracy is killing the industry. It's the same shit we've heard time and time again since the record companies claimed that cassette tapes would ruin everything. The simple fact is that piracy is rampant, and yet software and games companies still make huge profits. Either they would make bank-level money in the abscence of piracy, or their stance is idiotic.
That us flawed logic. Its like saying that its fine to steal(I know that piracy!= stealing) from rich people because they have a huge income.
As I have said, the numbers are obviously exaggerated but that doesn't mean that piracy doesn't cut into some copies.Blizzard invested a lot in this game so I think they care about getting something out of it.
As of how much Piracy is hurting the industry, we don't really have anything to prove either case.
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