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Hey guys I have a question about how to we play on Asian server without lag.
I know some TL people are playing on Korea or Taiwan server. Do you have lag issues? Everytime I play on their servers, it lags so badly. I sometimes have tournaments on asian server, so I want to know what kind of solution we have.
My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.
Thanks.
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Ask them what teh software is and use it yourself.
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@Flaunt: He said that Chinese friends use it, meaning they use it in China, not here.
@MasterAsia: I would imagine they have a program (legal) for the NA servers somewhere, but it'd be tough to find. Think you can get the Chinese program legally?
Also, where have you been in tournaments? You seemed like a huge zerg player before, but haven't seen you in awhile
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They probably use some kind of tunneling software/service.
Basically tunnels your connection through a specific path - streamlining your connection via several network methods (QoS, optimal nodes etc.)
There are alot of services from China -> US, Aus -> US - because stuff like WoW and SC2 where they are forced to play on US servers - but I doubt there are any going from US -> China/Taiwan because of the lack of demand. e.g. Lowerping/wowtunnels
If you had the technical expertise and the resources you could probably set up your own personal service though.
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On November 08 2010 11:20 WhoDoYouThink wrote:@Flaunt: He said that Chinese friends use it, meaning they use it in China, not here. @MasterAsia: I would imagine they have a program (legal) for the NA servers somewhere, but it'd be tough to find. Think you can get the Chinese program legally? Also, where have you been in tournaments? You seemed like a huge zerg player before, but haven't seen you in awhile 
The tournaments take too much time. They usually take a whole evening so I only played in very few tournaments. Also I am not good enough to win those tournaments.
I can get the Chinese program but the problem is they are not designed for NA people. They only offer the service for people who want to play abroad from China. I've tried their service but it doesnt help NA people at all.
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When I play on the NA server (I will get my revenge against you one day :p), I don't have any major latency issues (aside from my internet just sucking).
Is your game choppy or are your actions delayed? The former is because of an unstable connection, the latter is because of a slow connection.
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On November 08 2010 11:32 StUfF wrote: They probably use some kind of tunneling software/service.
Basically tunnels your connection through a specific path - streamlining your connection via several network methods (QoS, optimal nodes etc.)
There are alot of services from China -> US, Aus -> US - because stuff like WoW and SC2 where they are forced to play on US servers - but I doubt there are any going from US -> China/Taiwan because of the lack of demand. e.g. Lowerping/wowtunnels
If you had the technical expertise and the resources you could probably set up your own personal service though.
Thanks. So no NA -> Asia software at all? I don't have any technical expertise..
But I think I saw select and Huk played on Korean server. How did they manage this issue?
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On November 08 2010 11:34 lichter wrote: When I play on the NA server (I will get my revenge against you one day :p), I don't have any major latency issues (aside from my internet just sucking).
Is your game choppy or are your actions delayed? The former is because of an unstable connection, the latter is because of a slow connection.
The actions are delayed in both Korea and Taiwan server. It says lat = 300~ish ms by a connection software. Its like 80~ish ms for NA server.
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ITT: whodoyouthink thinks masterasia is his friend
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On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote: My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.
Thanks.
Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O
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On November 08 2010 13:06 TypeFake wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote: My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.
Thanks. Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O I can't tell if your being sarcastic, but it's certainly possible on a technical level. Consider this simplistic example. Clearly there is more than one way to route internet traffic from North America to Korea. Thus it stands to reason that you can reduce the latency of your connection by picking the faster one. There are also some things you can do on the protocol level to make your connection faster. Services like LowerPing package all of this for you.
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On November 08 2010 13:13 Corwin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 13:06 TypeFake wrote:On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote: My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.
Thanks. Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O I can't tell if your being sarcastic, but it's certainly possible on a technical level. Consider this simplistic example. Clearly there is more than one way to route internet traffic from North America to Korea. Thus it stands to reason that you can reduce the latency of your connection by picking the faster one. There are also some things you can do on the protocol level to make your connection faster. Services like LowerPing package all of this for you.
I guess I should really stop living under a rock with the lowest level of internet service...
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On November 08 2010 13:06 TypeFake wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote: My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.
Thanks. Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O
You don't know this only because you live in NA and in NA connections are usually good.
In China, if you play any kind of online games, you are gonna need one of those softwares.
It works very simply. You just pay some money, and then you connect to a local station owned by a company. That station has a better connection to the game server you wanted to play on.
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If anyone knows where I can get this software please pm me. I would love to have it.
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Hey MasterAsia:
Probably want to test your ping to those locations; it might be a problem with your ISP. I ladder regularly on the Taiwan server (it's my main server for laddering) and I don't have any lag problems whatsoever. I think you live at Georgia Tech, so you're getting some of the best Internet in the world, but maybe some of your packets aren't going through ? It's University Internet which is always questionable.
I also don't have any lag on the Korean server either.
Here's my results on speedtest.net / pingtest.net:
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1021552116.png) (taken while streaming, actually)
![[image loading]](http://www.pingtest.net/result/27652104.png) (also taken while streaming)
Post your results! Maybe we'll find the problem here.
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Running a speedtest from NA -> NA is pretty useless.
Though running a speedtest to one of their the Seoul speedtest server might give you an good indication of expected ping, but yeh some ISPs just have better international routing, running a trace route will tell you how your traffic is getting routed somewhat.
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On November 08 2010 15:29 Wolf wrote:Hey MasterAsia: Probably want to test your ping to those locations; it might be a problem with your ISP. I ladder regularly on the Taiwan server (it's my main server for laddering) and I don't have any lag problems whatsoever. I think you live at Georgia Tech, so you're getting some of the best Internet in the world, but maybe some of your packets aren't going through ? It's University Internet which is always questionable. I also don't have any lag on the Korean server either. Here's my results on speedtest.net / pingtest.net: ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1021552116.png) (taken while streaming, actually) ![[image loading]](http://www.pingtest.net/result/27652104.png) (also taken while streaming) Post your results! Maybe we'll find the problem here. mine:
![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/1021563666.png)
![[image loading]](http://www.pingtest.net/result/27652676.png) I live off campus and use comcast. Can you tell me your ping to Taiwan and Korea servers? Mine are at 300~ish ms.
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Back when I lived in China and played WoW (on the Taiwanese servers, since WotLK was delayed forever), almost all of the Chinese players bought subscriptions to private proxy servers to get better latency, otherwise the game would be unplayable due to China - Taiwan connectivity.
I'm sure your friends are using something similar. Most of them need to be paid for though.
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I could be wrong, but isn't a program called BattlePing supposed to reduce latency?
I live in California and my ping to Seoul is ~ 300 ms
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On November 08 2010 15:54 Genome852 wrote: Back when I lived in China and played WoW (on the Taiwanese servers, since WotLK was delayed forever), almost all of the Chinese players bought subscriptions to private proxy servers to get better latency, otherwise the game would be unplayable due to China - Taiwan connectivity.
I'm sure your friends are using something similar. Most of them need to be paid for though.
I know what they use, but I tried it and it doesn't help me.
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