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MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
November 08 2010 02:05 GMT
#1
Hey guys I have a question about how to we play on Asian server without lag.

I know some TL people are playing on Korea or Taiwan server. Do you have lag issues? Everytime I play on their servers, it lags so badly. I sometimes have tournaments on asian server, so I want to know what kind of solution we have.

My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.

Thanks.
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
November 08 2010 02:16 GMT
#2
Ask them what teh software is and use it yourself.
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WhoDoYouThink
Profile Joined July 2010
113 Posts
November 08 2010 02:20 GMT
#3
@Flaunt: He said that Chinese friends use it, meaning they use it in China, not here.

@MasterAsia: I would imagine they have a program (legal) for the NA servers somewhere, but it'd be tough to find. Think you can get the Chinese program legally?

Also, where have you been in tournaments? You seemed like a huge zerg player before, but haven't seen you in awhile
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StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
November 08 2010 02:32 GMT
#4
They probably use some kind of tunneling software/service.

Basically tunnels your connection through a specific path - streamlining your connection via several network methods (QoS, optimal nodes etc.)

There are alot of services from China -> US, Aus -> US - because stuff like WoW and SC2 where they are forced to play on US servers - but I doubt there are any going from US -> China/Taiwan because of the lack of demand. e.g. Lowerping/wowtunnels

If you had the technical expertise and the resources you could probably set up your own personal service though.

MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
November 08 2010 02:33 GMT
#5
On November 08 2010 11:20 WhoDoYouThink wrote:
@Flaunt: He said that Chinese friends use it, meaning they use it in China, not here.

@MasterAsia: I would imagine they have a program (legal) for the NA servers somewhere, but it'd be tough to find. Think you can get the Chinese program legally?

Also, where have you been in tournaments? You seemed like a huge zerg player before, but haven't seen you in awhile


The tournaments take too much time. They usually take a whole evening so I only played in very few tournaments. Also I am not good enough to win those tournaments.

I can get the Chinese program but the problem is they are not designed for NA people. They only offer the service for people who want to play abroad from China. I've tried their service but it doesnt help NA people at all.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 08 2010 02:34 GMT
#6
When I play on the NA server (I will get my revenge against you one day :p), I don't have any major latency issues (aside from my internet just sucking).

Is your game choppy or are your actions delayed? The former is because of an unstable connection, the latter is because of a slow connection.
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MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
November 08 2010 02:35 GMT
#7
On November 08 2010 11:32 StUfF wrote:
They probably use some kind of tunneling software/service.

Basically tunnels your connection through a specific path - streamlining your connection via several network methods (QoS, optimal nodes etc.)

There are alot of services from China -> US, Aus -> US - because stuff like WoW and SC2 where they are forced to play on US servers - but I doubt there are any going from US -> China/Taiwan because of the lack of demand. e.g. Lowerping/wowtunnels

If you had the technical expertise and the resources you could probably set up your own personal service though.


Thanks. So no NA -> Asia software at all? I don't have any technical expertise..

But I think I saw select and Huk played on Korean server. How did they manage this issue?
MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
November 08 2010 02:37 GMT
#8
On November 08 2010 11:34 lichter wrote:
When I play on the NA server (I will get my revenge against you one day :p), I don't have any major latency issues (aside from my internet just sucking).

Is your game choppy or are your actions delayed? The former is because of an unstable connection, the latter is because of a slow connection.


The actions are delayed in both Korea and Taiwan server. It says lat = 300~ish ms by a connection software. Its like 80~ish ms for NA server.
zonic
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand64 Posts
November 08 2010 02:51 GMT
#9
ITT: whodoyouthink thinks masterasia is his friend

User was warned for this post
TypeFake
Profile Joined September 2010
United States121 Posts
November 08 2010 04:06 GMT
#10
On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote:
My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.

Thanks.


Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O
[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
November 08 2010 04:13 GMT
#11
On November 08 2010 13:06 TypeFake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote:
My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.

Thanks.


Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O

I can't tell if your being sarcastic, but it's certainly possible on a technical level. Consider this simplistic example. Clearly there is more than one way to route internet traffic from North America to Korea. Thus it stands to reason that you can reduce the latency of your connection by picking the faster one. There are also some things you can do on the protocol level to make your connection faster. Services like LowerPing package all of this for you.
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TypeFake
Profile Joined September 2010
United States121 Posts
November 08 2010 04:55 GMT
#12
On November 08 2010 13:13 Corwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 13:06 TypeFake wrote:
On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote:
My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.

Thanks.


Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O

I can't tell if your being sarcastic, but it's certainly possible on a technical level. Consider this simplistic example. Clearly there is more than one way to route internet traffic from North America to Korea. Thus it stands to reason that you can reduce the latency of your connection by picking the faster one. There are also some things you can do on the protocol level to make your connection faster. Services like LowerPing package all of this for you.


I guess I should really stop living under a rock with the lowest level of internet service...
MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
November 08 2010 05:52 GMT
#13
On November 08 2010 13:06 TypeFake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 11:05 MasterAsia wrote:
My Chinese friends use one kind of softwares to reduce the latency so that they can play on KR or NA server without much problem. I want to know whether we have similar softwares in NA.

Thanks.


Wow. Someone tell me more about this. This sounds like it's revolutionary. Reducing latency? O_O


You don't know this only because you live in NA and in NA connections are usually good.

In China, if you play any kind of online games, you are gonna need one of those softwares.

It works very simply. You just pay some money, and then you connect to a local station owned by a company. That station has a better connection to the game server you wanted to play on.

mcneebs
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada391 Posts
November 08 2010 06:26 GMT
#14
If anyone knows where I can get this software please pm me. I would love to have it.
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
November 08 2010 06:29 GMT
#15
Hey MasterAsia:

Probably want to test your ping to those locations; it might be a problem with your ISP. I ladder regularly on the Taiwan server (it's my main server for laddering) and I don't have any lag problems whatsoever. I think you live at Georgia Tech, so you're getting some of the best Internet in the world, but maybe some of your packets aren't going through ? It's University Internet which is always questionable.

I also don't have any lag on the Korean server either.

Here's my results on speedtest.net / pingtest.net:

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(taken while streaming, actually)

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(also taken while streaming)

Post your results! Maybe we'll find the problem here.

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StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
November 08 2010 06:38 GMT
#16
Running a speedtest from NA -> NA is pretty useless.

Though running a speedtest to one of their the Seoul speedtest server might give you an good indication of expected ping, but yeh some ISPs just have better international routing, running a trace route will tell you how your traffic is getting routed somewhat.
MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
November 08 2010 06:48 GMT
#17
On November 08 2010 15:29 Wolf wrote:
Hey MasterAsia:

Probably want to test your ping to those locations; it might be a problem with your ISP. I ladder regularly on the Taiwan server (it's my main server for laddering) and I don't have any lag problems whatsoever. I think you live at Georgia Tech, so you're getting some of the best Internet in the world, but maybe some of your packets aren't going through ? It's University Internet which is always questionable.

I also don't have any lag on the Korean server either.

Here's my results on speedtest.net / pingtest.net:

[image loading]
(taken while streaming, actually)

[image loading]
(also taken while streaming)

Post your results! Maybe we'll find the problem here.


mine:
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I live off campus and use comcast. Can you tell me your ping to Taiwan and Korea servers? Mine are at 300~ish ms.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
November 08 2010 06:54 GMT
#18
Back when I lived in China and played WoW (on the Taiwanese servers, since WotLK was delayed forever), almost all of the Chinese players bought subscriptions to private proxy servers to get better latency, otherwise the game would be unplayable due to China - Taiwan connectivity.

I'm sure your friends are using something similar. Most of them need to be paid for though.
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 06:56:06
November 08 2010 06:54 GMT
#19
I could be wrong, but isn't a program called BattlePing supposed to reduce latency?

I live in California and my ping to Seoul is ~ 300 ms
MasterAsia
Profile Joined November 2009
United States170 Posts
November 08 2010 06:55 GMT
#20
On November 08 2010 15:54 Genome852 wrote:
Back when I lived in China and played WoW (on the Taiwanese servers, since WotLK was delayed forever), almost all of the Chinese players bought subscriptions to private proxy servers to get better latency, otherwise the game would be unplayable due to China - Taiwan connectivity.

I'm sure your friends are using something similar. Most of them need to be paid for though.


I know what they use, but I tried it and it doesn't help me.
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