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Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
October 29 2010 21:42 GMT
#21
wow boxer going random...thats hot.
i like cheese
YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
October 29 2010 21:47 GMT
#22
On October 30 2010 06:13 PiousMartyr wrote:
Show nested quote +

+ Show Spoiler [GSL RO16 Spoiler] +
This article was written before he beat Loner.



Please put GSL results in spoilers, not all of us have watched the games yet.

edit: ^^ty


Yeah, sorry about that...fixed now.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 29 2010 21:49 GMT
#23
On October 30 2010 06:25 avilo wrote:
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On October 30 2010 06:13 holy_war wrote:
Great interview, I'm really surprised that Boxer keeps mentioning how weak Terran is. Hopefully he will remain Terran and be awesome. Cannot wait for Boxer vs NaDa.


It's because right now, Z>T, due to late game macro + larva inject. And TvP is in no better shape, because once protoss hits 5 collosus and gets storms + energy upgrade, it's almost impossible to win versus any competent protoss.


Its because you don't know how to play the match up. Its all you do is complain balance in all your posts its really pathetic go watch MVP/Nada/Loner's tvz so you can find out how to play thank you.

As for Boxer's comment he's been complaining about Terran balance even before the first patch (by first I mean right before Roach buff). So I'm kinda taking his comments with a grain of salt about it but would be pretty cool to see him play random ^^
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MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
October 29 2010 21:51 GMT
#24
Maybe they should nerf terran again then, I don't think they need it, but boxer as random would probably come up with some pretty awesome cheese.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
October 29 2010 22:08 GMT
#25
boxer just said what I am thinking about TvP since beta and TvZ since the last patch!
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 29 2010 22:08 GMT
#26
On October 30 2010 06:37 TurpinOS wrote:
Scratch that, didnt feel like having a balance discussion in the end.

Good interview, random players are always nice

(Since the guy under actually caught me before my edit, my biggest point is probably the fact that I nevre understood how Zergs could be considered underpowered. Sure they require higher skill to play then the other races (imo), but in the end, the ability to produce double the units that a normal hatchery could make seems pretty odd to me (imagine if you could buy a upgrade for htaches doubling your larva production for 150 gold in SCBW, zerg would become so damn overpowered, and even though its not the same games, theres still something there imo.)


Im not saying that your wrong, and that zvt does not favor zerg, I personally feel like it does,, I feel queens are really really powerful, however.. Terrans have reactors, and mules, can you imagine being able to make 2x rines out of rax in SC1, or even 2x vultures, imagine how op terran would be if you had mules!. Protoss have warp gate mechanics.... Comparing back to SC1 in this case is kind of just blatant bias unless you do it for each race
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Gecko
Profile Joined August 2010
United States519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 22:16:25
October 29 2010 22:15 GMT
#27
boxer playing random? that would be awesome as hell! I can't imagine all the hilarious cheesy stuff he will try as P and Z.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
October 29 2010 22:18 GMT
#28
Going random is a strange move especially when you are going to play in GSL every season. You need to pick a race, right?

But Boxer knows whats best for him, i wouldn't mind seeing him as a Zerg or Protoss, but since i loved him in Broodwar as a terran, he should just stick to it!

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 29 2010 22:41 GMT
#29
I hope for a balanced game, but if he somehow ends up switching, I want to see him as a protoss. Both in SC:BW, and even now in SC2, there's no real bonjwa level toss players. Bisu had all signs, but still off the mark, and in SC2, I had a lot of hopes from Tester and then Sang-Ho, but both are inconsistent. May be Genius can become a real star?
ZerOfy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom405 Posts
October 29 2010 22:45 GMT
#30
He better. Us Protoss need a hero! :D
My life for Aiur!
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
October 29 2010 22:46 GMT
#31
It's sad that boxer has brought balance up this many times.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 22:50:10
October 29 2010 22:48 GMT
#32
He said, "might go random". Fixing it to avoid sensationalism.

Thanks for the interview, he gives good answers
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
October 29 2010 22:53 GMT
#33
TvZ got better with more macro oriented builds but TvP just got so unbelievably boring after the tank nerf :-\

Though to be honest, I think he is kinda pouting because he can't Bunker Kong like he used to.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
October 29 2010 22:54 GMT
#34
Boxer is a genius and a huge perfectionist.
I can understand it's really hard to perfect your play when you feel like you're already behind before you start.

He might be right too. It's perhaps a bit early to jump to conclusions yet though.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
October 29 2010 22:55 GMT
#35
I'll admit there is a mid-late-game hole in Terran at the moment that Zerg can almost always win by exploiting, but I do not think that it is necessarily because of underpowered-ness in Terran. I don't want to get into an out-right balance discussion/debate but I feel that now that Terran doesn't have the same level of early-game pressure they once had against Zerg. Terrans have yet to find another way to successfully damage the Zerg enough in their macro. However, trying to buff Terran early game will just bring back the same problems as before where only the highest level Zergs can hold off a successfully executed reaper harass, and even then maybe not.
i-bonjwa
Scoop
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland482 Posts
October 29 2010 22:56 GMT
#36
On October 30 2010 07:53 Antisocialmunky wrote:
TvZ got better with more macro oriented builds but TvP just got so unbelievably boring after the tank nerf :-\

Though to be honest, I think he is kinda pouting because he can't Bunker Kong like he used to.


Are you serious? Was the sitting with 12 tanks in the middle of the map so entertaining?
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
October 29 2010 22:56 GMT
#37
There are 4 terrans in top 8 right now, why people still say that terran is weak. Maybe its because it used to be easy and now its hard to play against other races?
Its grack
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 29 2010 22:59 GMT
#38
Mad props to BoxeR, I think it's hard to argue that BoxeR > FoxeR right now. He did strike me as a little whiny about T balance, but then again who wouldn't be when they play for money?
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PROJECTILE
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
October 29 2010 23:01 GMT
#39
On October 30 2010 07:56 bokeevboke wrote:
There are 4 terrans in top 8 right now, why people still say that terran is weak. Maybe its because it used to be easy and now its hard to play against other races?

It's pretty obvious. Regardless of their showing at this GSL, there are concerns that in the future terran will be underpowered based on certain properties of their race.

Is it really that hard to critically think about these kinds of things?
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
October 29 2010 23:03 GMT
#40
On October 30 2010 07:56 Scoop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 07:53 Antisocialmunky wrote:
TvZ got better with more macro oriented builds but TvP just got so unbelievably boring after the tank nerf :-\

Though to be honest, I think he is kinda pouting because he can't Bunker Kong like he used to.


Are you serious? Was the sitting with 12 tanks in the middle of the map so entertaining?


I dunno, is playing with A-Move MMM blob exciting? Atleast mech had positional consideration. I wish TLO stuck with T since he did all sorts of fun things :D

On October 30 2010 07:55 SichuanPanda wrote:
I'll admit there is a mid-late-game hole in Terran at the moment that Zerg can almost always win by exploiting, but I do not think that it is necessarily because of underpowered-ness in Terran. I don't want to get into an out-right balance discussion/debate but I feel that now that Terran doesn't have the same level of early-game pressure they once had against Zerg. Terrans have yet to find another way to successfully damage the Zerg enough in their macro. However, trying to buff Terran early game will just bring back the same problems as before where only the highest level Zergs can hold off a successfully executed reaper harass, and even then maybe not.


Actually I think its not that big of an issue if you see the replays in my guide linked in my signature.
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