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Boxer: might go random if Terran gets nerfed again.

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YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-30 20:51:54
October 29 2010 21:09 GMT
#1
Edit: Now de-spoiler-ized, if you haven't watched Ro16 matches. If you haven't watched Ro32, well, I can't help you. Stop reading.

OP's note: Please don't start a balance flame war. I just thought the most interesting part of the interview was Boxer's constant comments about Terran's weakness, so I put that as the title. There's a lot more in the interview than just race balance, but you really can't get around it - Boxer thinks Terran is UP, and he doesn't care who knows it. Let's keep it cool in here. It's just a translation of what Boxer said.

Update 2010.10.30: Read this. Boxer deserves respect.
Update 2010.10.30: BurningSera claims mistranslation here. Judge for yourself. My response here.
Update 2010.10.30: Boxer is definitely not a QQer. Anyone who thinks otherwise should watch this game. It's the #1 game in the OSL hall of fame, and CholeraSC titled it "Never Surrender". If you don't know what OSL is or who CholeraSC is...you have a lot to learn before saying anything about Boxer.

Source (Chinese)
+ Show Spoiler +
This article was written before he beat Loner.


After taking down his last opponent, Boxer has entered the Ro16. After the match, he took questioned from the Korean media, and said that taking on Loner meant avoiding TvZ which was what he was most afraid of. He also said that he had watched Loner's play at Blizzcon, and understood Loner's tactics. When asked about Fake Boxer, he generously admitted that Fake Boxer was probably stronger than him at the moment.

Q: How do you feel about entering the Ro16?

A: My Ro16 opponent is Loner, my previous record against Chinese players is poor, so I must change that impression, and my minimum goal is to be a S-class player. I hope I can accomplish both goals.

I only have two days to practice, so I've got to hurry back to practice. I'm happy I can avoid the problematic TvP.

Q: You used some pretty unorthodox (cheesy) tactics.

A: In the first game I didn't want to reveal my strategy, so I canceled tech and improvised. The second game I was following a set game plan. TvP requires my full strength, so I just put my head down and executed.

In previous interviews I didn't mention who I was practicing with, because I didn't want people to find the replays. I was actually practicing with sSKS. This time he gave me lots of practice looks, and at Blizzcon, Huk helped me practice.

Q: Because of Blizzcon, do you have stamina problems?

A: After coming back to Seoul, there were some issues with the time lag, and I lost my practice notebook. I've been to the US before, and it was the same kind of discomfort. After coming back I didn't sleep much, just concentrating on practice, but I had less than one day of practice.

Q: You had a showmatch against Fruitdealer.

A: Even though it was a showmatch, there were a lot of spectators, more than GSL, so I was quite nervous. Even though I tried my best, but I still lost. Fruitdealer is a good player, I hope to play him again after I have plenty of practice.

Q: Recently people have said TvZ is hard.

A: I'm probably the one who has said it most! We've got to wait for the next patch, but for now we just try our best. I had this momentary thought in my head, that if I was eliminated I would switch races. Actually I want to go random. In internal battles, for a time, I was random.

Q: So you'll be random in future tournaments?

A: If Terran gets weakened again I might go random.

Q: Your Ro16 opponent is the Chinese player "Little Terran Emperor" Loner.

A: At Blizzcon I saw his TvP. But he lost 0-4, making me think that Protoss might be "bugged" (OP). I've played him on battle.net, so I know his style.

Q: Every one says you're the strongest TvT,

A: Well, Terran against anyone else is hard, I hope my opponents are all Terran, haha.

Q: Under the circumstances, you will probably meet Nada in Ro8.

A: If we meet, that will be interesting, and it will be a hot topic, and because we will both be S-class, we can show-off our full skills without pressure.

Q: Today the crowd was pretty fired-up.

A: At Blizzcon there were more people, but I feel even more nervous at GSL. Probably because I didn't prepare well for today.

Q: The player who has the Boxer ID has said he has permission to switch ID.

A: Objectively, he's a better player than me right now. Based on skills, he should continue to use the ID, haha.
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jekstarr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States43 Posts
October 29 2010 21:12 GMT
#2
hmm im not sure but that first line there might count as spoilers... might want to tag them just in case..
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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
October 29 2010 21:13 GMT
#3
Great interview, I'm really surprised that Boxer keeps mentioning how weak Terran is. Hopefully he will remain Terran and be awesome. Cannot wait for Boxer vs NaDa.
PiousMartyr
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada176 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 21:18:33
October 29 2010 21:13 GMT
#4

+ Show Spoiler [GSL RO16 Spoiler] +
This article was written before he beat Loner.



Please put GSL results in spoilers, not all of us have watched the games yet.

edit: ^^ty
miNix
Profile Joined August 2010
Turkey156 Posts
October 29 2010 21:14 GMT
#5

Q: The player who has the Boxer ID has said he has permission to switch ID.

A: Objectively, he's a better player than me right now. Based on skills, he should continue to use the ID, haha.

woah :D FoxeR FoxeR FoxeR FoxeR
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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 29 2010 21:14 GMT
#6
A: Objectively, he's a better player than me right now. Based on skills, he should continue to use the ID, haha.

Ha, good humor
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 29 2010 21:14 GMT
#7
yeah, this was originally on fomos but was never translated directly from korean, thank you~
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 29 2010 21:17 GMT
#8
In that case I hope Blizzard nerf terrans more. I want to see more good random players.
eksert
Profile Joined August 2010
France656 Posts
October 29 2010 21:18 GMT
#9
foxer has beaten boxer in ladder several times..
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 29 2010 21:20 GMT
#10
^^And?
zzaaxxsscd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States626 Posts
October 29 2010 21:23 GMT
#11
sorry, but the thread subject is a little misleading - boxer said he "might" go random
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
October 29 2010 21:23 GMT
#12
On October 30 2010 06:18 eksert wrote:
foxer has beaten boxer in ladder several times..


Doesn't mean anything if he can't do it on TV.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 29 2010 21:23 GMT
#13
Terran has huge problems right now, 100% agree with boxer.
Sup
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
October 29 2010 21:25 GMT
#14
On October 30 2010 06:13 holy_war wrote:
Great interview, I'm really surprised that Boxer keeps mentioning how weak Terran is. Hopefully he will remain Terran and be awesome. Cannot wait for Boxer vs NaDa.


It's because right now, Z>T, due to late game macro + larva inject. And TvP is in no better shape, because once protoss hits 5 collosus and gets storms + energy upgrade, it's almost impossible to win versus any competent protoss.
Sup
YMCApylons
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Taiwan359 Posts
October 29 2010 21:27 GMT
#15
On October 30 2010 06:23 zzaaxxsscd wrote:
sorry, but the thread subject is a little misleading - boxer said he "might" go random


Yeah, I know...but I can only have a 50 character title. Couldn't fit "might", I'd have to go all Engrish on the title otherwise.
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McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
October 29 2010 21:32 GMT
#16
That's interesting. I wonder if random can be viable this time around.
High five :---)
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
October 29 2010 21:34 GMT
#17
The Ro16 TvZ winrate is about even. I wish people like him will stop whining. Never been a fan of this QQer

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Eminent Rising
Profile Joined October 2010
United States174 Posts
October 29 2010 21:37 GMT
#18
i dont buy it that terrans are weaker then toss. toss struggles against terrans esp in the early game.
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TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 21:43:20
October 29 2010 21:37 GMT
#19
Scratch that, didnt feel like having a balance discussion in the end.

Good interview, random players are always nice

(Since the guy under actually caught me before my edit, my biggest point is probably the fact that I nevre understood how Zergs could be considered underpowered. Sure they require higher skill to play then the other races (imo), but in the end, the ability to produce double the units that a normal hatchery could make seems pretty odd to me (imagine if you could buy a upgrade for htaches doubling your larva production for 150 gold in SCBW, zerg would become so damn overpowered, and even though its not the same games, theres still something there imo.)
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5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
October 29 2010 21:40 GMT
#20
I agree with Turpin in that Zerg is definitely not UP at the moment, with the game roughly about even in TvZ, but what Boxer is effectively claiming is that Zerg has an advantage over Terran, which is definitely ridiculous.
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