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A few quick points:
- Foxer should still switch to Foxer cause it avoids confusion.
- He said "might switch to random" which makes it seem about as likely as Idra playing Terran.
- TvZ just got overhauled (while ZvT is the same with less to worry about initially). That makes it difficult now for sure but let's wait until people start figuring out the new TvZ tactics before screaming imbalance.
- Foxer and Nada seem to both have some extremely solid TvZ (and two completely different styles). Maybe there's something there, let's see what happens in later rounds.
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On October 30 2010 06:25 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 06:13 holy_war wrote:
Great interview, I'm really surprised that Boxer keeps mentioning how weak Terran is. Hopefully he will remain Terran and be awesome. Cannot wait for Boxer vs NaDa. It's because right now, Z>T, due to late game macro + larva inject. And TvP is in no better shape, because once protoss hits 5 collosus and gets storms + energy upgrade, it's almost impossible to win versus any competent protoss.
you do realize T>P (alot) early game right?
so in every game T has been OP
but not every game gets to late game so P does not get OP every game.
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People seem to be blowing the whole OP/UP thing out of proportion. It's been what, less then two weeks since the patch? Give it time people. When a change is made to a unit it not only makes that unit different, but it completely effects the strategies revolving around that unit.
Imo, blizzard should not have released a patch like this before a huge tournament because it was obviously it would really throw players off. At the same time though it's way to early to pass judgment, because no one had time to test builds and the like.
I think we should wait until GSL3 before we start deciding what is OP/UP. It was obvious zerg was going to do good in this tournament simply because the patch caught people off guard. But as you can see, it's not a 6 zerg, 1 terran, 1 toss situation, it's actually pretty good. (Yes Toss is behind, but I would contribute that to the best toss in the world not being in the tournament and the two top 3 toss that were in the tournament having to play eachother in the ro.16)
As we can see, new builds are already popping up from terran players to comba zerg. It might be rough for a little while longer, but I think it will balance out by the 3rd GSL. If not, then we can start calling OP/UP
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New Zealand695 Posts
I don't really want to get into balance arguments but the main point was that Terran used to have a very strong early game which would set you up for a lategame advantage. Now that Terran lost that early advantage with the rax nerf, and the reaper speed nerf as well as Zerg getting an earlygame buff with roaches it is difficult to obtain that early advantage.
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Nerf terran. I would love to see Boxer play random. i think everyone else would love that 2.
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i hope he does! terran is weak atm
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On October 30 2010 12:23 Vz0 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 06:25 avilo wrote:On October 30 2010 06:13 holy_war wrote:
Great interview, I'm really surprised that Boxer keeps mentioning how weak Terran is. Hopefully he will remain Terran and be awesome. Cannot wait for Boxer vs NaDa. It's because right now, Z>T, due to late game macro + larva inject. And TvP is in no better shape, because once protoss hits 5 collosus and gets storms + energy upgrade, it's almost impossible to win versus any competent protoss. you do realize T>P (alot) early game right? so in every game T has been OP but not every game gets to late game so P does not get OP every game.
Well if you're playing as P you best hope you can drag the match into late game.
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The Boxer we knew from Brood War took the weakest race, and crowned himself Emperor with it.
Hope he sticks with his guns and comes up with something amazing.
(do what flash does 14 CC ftw XD)
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Vancouver14381 Posts
the most surprising thing for me in this article is Boxer mentioning Huk by name as someone who helped him practice. looks like Huk will be off to a good start (especially with the OGS connections) when he arrives in Korea next month
on topic though, it would be cool to see how Boxer handles random. since his macro is lacking compared to his micro, I wonder how well he'll perform when he rolls zerg
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The fake Boxer Won vs FruitDealer while the Real boxer didn't. The fake one is also higher ranked in the same division as Boxer, and they met a lot in the ladder.
So i don't think that when Boxer thinks that Fake boxer is better, he was joking but he is serious.
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On October 30 2010 12:54 aztrorisk wrote:
Nerf terran. I would love to see Boxer play random. i think everyone else would love that 2.
The Emperor of Random?
I don't think so.
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Wow... this interview is awesome. I didnt know that Terran was that "weak" ㅡㅡ
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i dont even think boxers even that good, back in his prime he was good for his time but not anymore
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On October 30 2010 13:20 We Are Here wrote:
i dont even think boxers even that good, back in his prime he was good for his time but not anymore
Apparently RO8 in the GSL is not that good. Damn. Maybe it will be proven he sucks if he loses to the also not so good nada.
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On October 30 2010 13:20 We Are Here wrote:
i dont even think boxers even that good, back in his prime he was good for his time but not anymore
 
HERESY
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I can't imagine seeing BoxeR playing anything else other than Terran. The emperor of the Terran race betrays his followers? That will be a sad day indeed.
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Why switch when things are working out?
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On October 30 2010 13:24 DooMDash wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 13:20 We Are Here wrote:
i dont even think boxers even that good, back in his prime he was good for his time but not anymore Apparently RO8 in the GSL is not that good. Damn. Maybe it will be proven he sucks if he loses to the also not so good nada. hmmm i dont think nada is at cools level, but i think he will beat boxer
Edit: boxer is doing good now, but what i mean is when the really good players start emerging boxer will fall off the radar, probably faster than the other good players of this time. he can only compete when the skill level is (relatively) low
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On October 30 2010 13:39 We Are Here wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 13:24 DooMDash wrote:On October 30 2010 13:20 We Are Here wrote:
i dont even think boxers even that good, back in his prime he was good for his time but not anymore Apparently RO8 in the GSL is not that good. Damn. Maybe it will be proven he sucks if he loses to the also not so good nada. hmmm i dont think nada is at cools level, but i think he will beat boxer Edit: boxer is doing good now, but what i mean is when the really good players start emerging boxer will fall off the radar, probably faster than the other good players of this time. he can only compete when the skill level is (relatively) low
on what do you base this? he wasnt even close to losing a single match so far. on that one showmatch or on some month old replays?
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On October 30 2010 13:39 We Are Here wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 13:24 DooMDash wrote:On October 30 2010 13:20 We Are Here wrote:
i dont even think boxers even that good, back in his prime he was good for his time but not anymore Apparently RO8 in the GSL is not that good. Damn. Maybe it will be proven he sucks if he loses to the also not so good nada. hmmm i dont think nada is at cools level, but i think he will beat boxer Edit: boxer is doing good now, but what i mean is when the really good players start emerging boxer will fall off the radar, probably faster than the other good players of this time. he can only compete when the skill level is (relatively) low
I am going to disagree with you on almost everything you said.
I would love to see a Nada vs Fruitdealer as both are very strong players and I don't think fruitdealer would be able to beat Nada like he did Boxer. Boxer stayed on 2 base and got a third way too late both games and Nada seems to know to take a third faster then most terrans do and he's a good macro player.
I also think Boxer will stay at top level play for a long time as long as he keeps playing and doesn't quit I doubt he'll fall behind. This isn't bw so macro should not hurt Boxer too much at least not like in bw. We'll see though only time will answer this question.
I think if Nada and Fruitdealer played it would have been amazing and I really wish it could have happened but hopefully they get a showmatch or something so we can really know who's better of the two 
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