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Germany8702 Posts
On October 28 2010 05:42 AntiGrav1ty wrote: So did the admin decide for a defwin by himself or did he leave it to the players and Miou insisted on it? Was most likely Mious decision, it was like that during WC3 atleast. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
If I recall correctly Naniwa was ill a few weeks ago, not sure about the exact date but it might be connected to his penalty points for late wild card at 10th of October. | ||
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DeMusliM
United Kingdom401 Posts
On October 28 2010 05:41 Zocat wrote: May I ask where the rules state that you need to have a reason for postponing a match? Main problem was i didn't actually know when it was happening or when my flights would be, and they got changed within the week of my match which is why it was all too late (since the players don't actually book their flights, they have it booked for them by blizzard) - which meant when i actually did know for certain (rather than giving a rough estimate which is when i postponed the miou match to 1 day after landing) i didn't know it would take up the time of my previous match also, so while i did try plan ahead i couldn't do it by just estimating time slots - which is why i asked for the exception to be made, for the game of the 19th to be played out of the play week (i moved mious match from the 26th to the 27th) as it wasn't like i was trying to be obnoxious in anyway, it was just something i couldn't help. And the admins let miou decide if he wanted a regame or defwin or not, - miou has been a friend of mine for the past few years and i've never done anything treacherous towards him, he made a call which i totally do not agree with, and that i find totally unsportsmanlike considering he has no chance at making the finals anyhow and that he was supposedly a friend. It's strange how friends act when they are actually put in a situation when they have to make a decision you or them. | ||
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
On October 28 2010 03:31 elle05 wrote: @5:27! It is ok to ragequit, it is ok to whine about inbalance, but you have to respect other players. That's a big point in every sport. He hasn't that kind of respect - not ingame, not in his statements: http://www.esl.eu/de/pro-series/season17/sc2/1on1/match/19526664/ GJ ESL!  dude!!! that was my question !! | ||
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bLuR
Canada625 Posts
poor nani | ||
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DeMusliM
United Kingdom401 Posts
On October 28 2010 05:47 TBO wrote: just skimmed through the rules, does anyone know if you also get penalty points for using a wild card too late if you have a really good reason (like being seriously sick)? In the rules there is nothing about exceptions so I wonder if they just do it by the book or have some common sense. If I recall correctly Naniwa was ill a few weeks ago, not sure about the exact date but it might be connected to his penalty points for late wild card at 10th of October. even if you are really sick with flu, you will get PP's (i checked that out today, i have the flu still, i would have got anything up to 8 pps apparantly) | ||
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Santo
Germany15 Posts
On October 28 2010 05:47 TBO wrote: just skimmed through the rules, does anyone know if you also get penalty points for using a wild card too late if you have a really good reason (like being seriously sick)? In the rules there is nothing about exceptions so I wonder if they just do it by the book or have some common sense. If I recall correctly Naniwa was ill a few weeks ago, not sure about the exact date but it might be connected to his penalty points for late wild card at 10th of October. Depends on the situation tough - If its needed (e.g. if you need to visit the hospital immediately) and you need to stay there for a while, sure we can use exceptions. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
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FlyingDJ
Germany153 Posts
On October 28 2010 05:51 DeMusliM wrote: And the admins let miou decide if he wanted a regame or defwin or not, - miou has been a friend of mine for the past few years and i've never done anything treacherous towards him, he made a call which i totally do not agree with, and that i find totally unsportsmanlike considering he has no chance at making the finals anyhow and that he was supposedly a friend. It's strange how friends act when they are actually put in a situation when they have to make a decision you or them. I can understand Miou though - he was, at least to most observers' eyes, at an advantage. Winning a game equals money. Given the choice and considering that he used a strategy he cannot easily play twice, I am not surprised. I don't think he was taking revenge or doing it to hurt you, he just made a logical choice. In any way, this has almost nothing to do with ESL, apart from the fact that they made the rules this way (which makes sense, otherwise disconnects or crashes would be impossible to solve and leave room for abuse). | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On October 28 2010 05:52 Santo wrote: Depends on the situation tough - If its needed (e.g. if you need to visit the hospital immediately) and you need to stay there for a while, sure we can use exceptions. so having Chicken Pox and fever (something where you don't need to go to the hospital) would be something which gets you PPs? | ||
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TheMexican
Germany96 Posts
 still it's hard to make that distinction, since the argument of being sick,if u just want to postpone a match,would of course be abused again. All in all the system seems pretty fair to me, especially considering some people having none pps at all. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 28 2010 06:09 TheMexican wrote: haha maybe u need a doctor's note? still it's hard to make that distinction, since the argument of being sick,if u just want to postpone a match,would of course be abused again. All in all the system seems pretty fair to me, especially considering some people having none pps at all. Then give a limit per season or whatever. Its retarded that you get PP if your sick but if you don't play you get punished for it. That needs to be changed. Also is he kicked out forever? | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
some rules are indeed dumb i think the penalty points system is really good, but the admins should be more benevolent | ||
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
as a person who pays for esl tv premium i can only support rules that are as strict as they have to be to make sure the EPS runs on a close to normal schedule as long as they have to deal with immature kids like nani. | ||
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Santo
Germany15 Posts
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leecH
Germany385 Posts
On October 28 2010 06:14 PredY wrote: i don't know how's the healthcare system in germany but here in czech republic we have to pay for each visit at a doctor's office, i also usually prefer not even go visit a doctor and rather stay home you only have to pay once per month here. so its like a health flatrate for one month. so if you dont want to go to work it costs you 10 Euro offtopic, my bad. | ||
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
you only have to pay once per month here. so its like a health flatrate for one month. so if you dont want to go to work it costs you 10 Euro offtopic, my bad Wrong its 10€ per quarter (Quartal) This thread is getting kind of outta ure supposed to bash Naniwa not ESL, also its not about any problems Demuslim has with this one lost game he deserved to loose in anyway by the rules. So plz start flaming Naniwa again and not the ESL thanks. | ||
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Innsmouth-Zerg
Austria137 Posts
But i'm 100% behind Demuslim , i was watching the game and he was about to crush miou. Also ESL is not without fault, i can remember several occations in the past where they just made the wrong calls and tried to push them trought like nothing happend and only outcry from the community could prevent injustice. | ||
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