EPTTLO Switches to Zerg - Page 11
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theDragoon
Canada307 Posts
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BrodiaQ
United States892 Posts
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MadULol
Argentina19 Posts
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MythicalMage
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On October 24 2010 13:59 kojinshugi wrote: The idea that only the player matters is ridiculous. What matters is the player's strengths working together with the race's strengths. Idra would probably make a very mediocre SC2 Terran on the tournament level, Artosis's stories notwithstanding. That doesn't mean Idra's bad, it means Idra's playstyle works best with Z, and he is near-godlike at that playstyle. TLO thrives on variation, his protoss was always poor because protoss has always been very rigid. Zerg now has variation, Terran no longer doesn't. It's always mech in TvZ and always MMM/vikings in TvP. Look at any TvP on Xel'naga Caverns, it's always the same two builds taking the same three bases that ends in a mexican standoff by the third base PF. Mech in TvZ? I dunno about that(anymore). The issue is that, in my mine, you can't do anything early game significant, and that in EVERY matchup it's all bio all the time. Occasionally tanks/vikings make an appearance, and occasionally there are banshees/ravens, but it's always over an infantry core, and that's rather limiting. | ||
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FuryX
Australia495 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:04 FuryX wrote: Seems he goes where eva the patch balance goes... curious to see what he thinks in a few months once protoss gets a buff ^_^ Based on past patches, plus the protoss win %s in most leagues around the world, it will be a very very very long time before protoss get a legitimate buff. | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:02 MythicalMage wrote: Mech in TvZ? I dunno about that(anymore). The issue is that, in my mine, you can't do anything early game significant, and that in EVERY matchup it's all bio all the time. Occasionally tanks/vikings make an appearance, and occasionally there are banshees/ravens, but it's always over an infantry core, and that's rather limiting. Mech as in Thors/Tanks/Hellions. Multiple factories. Of course there's always gonna be an infantry core, that's not the same thing as MMM. MMM is the primary army composition in bio play, in mech play it's more of a support role. EDIT: much like there's always gonna be zlots/stalkers/sentries with any toss composition and there's always going to be lings in any zerg composition. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:04 FuryX wrote: Seems he goes where eva the patch balance goes... curious to see what he thinks in a few months once protoss gets a buff ^_^ He won't ever main race toss. | ||
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nOia.pod
Hungary263 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:20 Carras wrote: DAMM COPY CAT, i start to not win against zerg.. he starts to not win against anybody i see idra and dealer soo IMBA.. i switch..he switches.. That's what we call FOTM. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
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Heosat
Australia481 Posts
On October 24 2010 13:45 MisterPuppy wrote: Hey Heosat anyway you could get TLO to do a writeup about why he prefers Zerg over Terran? I'm confident it will be in the weekly. | ||
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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Samus
Australia47 Posts
To beat it, you have to do the same build.... as a terran which is very difficult or apply early pressure. Since early pressure was nerfed, Zerg can easily take that expansion, have a defence ready for it. Sad as it sounds basically the whole ZvT game depends on wherever you stop that early expansion or not because if you don't you could have mutas harassing your base or you'll just easily get outmacroed. Don't know what they were thinking with this patch probably making terran have to work for early game pressure and make the zerg scared to ever expand again. I'm currently still playing terran and adjusting to see if i can beat Z in ZvT. I've won a few games but no success for one BO to stop the Zerg atm. XD. | ||
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bendez
Canada283 Posts
 On October 24 2010 14:19 Tazza wrote: To all the terrans, this doest NOT mean zerg is op now I'd like to emphasize this as well. | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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Darklance
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On the other hand, I am really excited to see more TLO zerg play! | ||
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Grond
599 Posts
On October 24 2010 11:41 Lucid90 wrote: I never liked TLO. Honestly I don't think he has the natural talent needed to succeed against the best in korea. I don't even think he's good enough to beat top foreigners. To me he's always been a flashy player with a big fanbase because of stupid shit like "TLOwnage" or his "creative" play, but when it comes to actual straight up matches he falls flat. I guess the reason for his switch is that now terran isn't as strong against zerg say a month ago, so makes more sense switching to zerg. To me this is still pretty stupid because IMO PvZ is still broken in high levels and zerg is by far the hardest race to play because it's mostly defensive, so he should do even worse in tournament results now. Sorry to hurt anyone's feelings but this is just how I feel. This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. | ||
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