Subject: Re: your topic
Date: 10/24/10 12:35
yes and mlg dallas
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Original Message From StarSense:
Will he be switching in time for GSL3?
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StarSense
206 Posts
Subject: Re: your topic Date: 10/24/10 12:35 yes and mlg dallas ----------------------------------------- Original Message From StarSense: Will he be switching in time for GSL3? | ||
Alphaes
United States651 Posts
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MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:34 StarSense wrote: From: Liquid`Nazgul [ 13440 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: your topic Date: 10/24/10 12:35 yes and mlg dallas ----------------------------------------- Original Message From StarSense: Will he be switching in time for GSL3? OMFG OMFG OMFG YAY | ||
Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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bendez
Canada283 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2010 11:41 Lucid90 wrote: I never liked TLO. Honestly I don't think he has the natural talent needed to succeed against the best in korea. I don't even think he's good enough to beat top foreigners. To me he's always been a flashy player with a big fanbase because of stupid shit like "TLOwnage" or his "creative" play, but when it comes to actual straight up matches he falls flat. I guess the reason for his switch is that now terran isn't as strong against zerg say a month ago, so makes more sense switching to zerg. To me this is still pretty stupid because IMO PvZ is still broken in high levels and zerg is by far the hardest race to play because it's mostly defensive, so he should do even worse in tournament results now. Sorry to hurt anyone's feelings but this is just how I feel. This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Well to be fair, his "creative" play will only get him so far with zerg. You NEED to have strong macro mechanics to back up that "creativity" and TLO's macro is well...decent at best. Don't get me wrong. I like TLO style of play but in professional league, I agree with Lucid90 to some degree. | ||
kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:45 Ownos wrote: Awesome! I always loved his Z play. He's got quite a bit of catching up to do though in terms of practice. Didn't seem to do too well at Blizzcon. T_T Download the replay for G2 vs Sen. | ||
Drazzzt
Germany999 Posts
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:45 bendez wrote: Well to be fair, his "creative" play will only get him so far with zerg. You NEED to have strong macro mechanics to back up that "creativity" and TLO's macro is well...decent at best. Don't get me wrong. I like TLO style of play but in professional league, I agree with Lucid90 to some degree. His macro is fine. Nearly all the big losses I've seen lately have come from simple scouting mistakes. It just seems like nerves. | ||
MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:45 bendez wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: On October 24 2010 11:41 Lucid90 wrote: I never liked TLO. Honestly I don't think he has the natural talent needed to succeed against the best in korea. I don't even think he's good enough to beat top foreigners. To me he's always been a flashy player with a big fanbase because of stupid shit like "TLOwnage" or his "creative" play, but when it comes to actual straight up matches he falls flat. I guess the reason for his switch is that now terran isn't as strong against zerg say a month ago, so makes more sense switching to zerg. To me this is still pretty stupid because IMO PvZ is still broken in high levels and zerg is by far the hardest race to play because it's mostly defensive, so he should do even worse in tournament results now. Sorry to hurt anyone's feelings but this is just how I feel. This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Well to be fair, his "creative" play will only get him so far with zerg. You NEED to have strong macro mechanics to back up that "creativity" and TLO's macro is well...decent at best. Don't get me wrong. I like TLO style of play but in professional league, I agree with Lucid90 to some degree. I think he thoroughly showed that in GSL1, and to a lesser extent GSL2. | ||
Marl
United States692 Posts
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Straught
Mexico157 Posts
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MadULol
Argentina19 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Doesn't take an astronaut to figure out TLO favors cheesy wins over drawn-out games. Aside from fast rushes and the roaches, zerg play is mainly unchanged from what is was vs terran; It's still a pain in the @#% to defend a fast marine+tank push, especially if you went FE. People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Aside from that, GREAT... We'll get EVEN MORE "rerolled terrans" who will play zerg the same way all of these failed players do in zvz : 1 base spam 30 roaches a-move, something that basically forces the opponent to do the same... It's even more retarded than the old tank/viking TvTs and that's quite an achievement ! | ||
MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote: Watch his GSL games and tell me he favors "cheesy wins". Show nested quote + On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Doesn't take an astronaut to figure out TLO favors cheesy wins over drawn-out games. Aside from fast rushes and the roaches, zerg play is mainly unchanged from what is was vs terran; It's still a pain in the @#% to defend a fast marine+tank push, especially if you went FE. People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Aside from that, GREAT... We'll get EVEN MORE "rerolled terrans" who will play zerg the same way all of these failed players do in zvz : 1 base spam 30 roaches a-move, something that basically forces the opponent to do the same... | ||
HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote: People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. [/QUOTE] Uhhh, TLO's zerg was better than his terran in beta and before he switched to terran full-time. | ||
Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:49 MythicalMage wrote: Show nested quote + Watch his GSL games and tell me he favors "cheesy wins". On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote: On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Doesn't take an astronaut to figure out TLO favors cheesy wins over drawn-out games. Aside from fast rushes and the roaches, zerg play is mainly unchanged from what is was vs terran; It's still a pain in the @#% to defend a fast marine+tank push, especially if you went FE. People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Aside from that, GREAT... We'll get EVEN MORE "rerolled terrans" who will play zerg the same way all of these failed players do in zvz : 1 base spam 30 roaches a-move, something that basically forces the opponent to do the same... You are referring to the series where he Thor rushed and followed it up with cloaked banshees? | ||
kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Doesn't take an astronaut to figure out TLO favors cheesy wins over drawn-out games. Aside from fast rushes and the roaches, zerg play is mainly unchanged from what is was vs terran; It's still a pain in the @#% to defend a fast marine+tank push, especially if you went FE. People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Aside from that, GREAT... We'll get EVEN MORE "rerolled terrans" who will play zerg the same way all of these failed players do in zvz : 1 base spam 30 roaches a-move, something that basically forces the opponent to do the same... It's even more retarded than the old tank/viking TvTs and that's quite an achievement ! Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. He was never a Terran main race before GSL. He was a Random whose strong races were T and Z. And to call TLO a cheesy player is retarded. He's not some rush-oriented one baser, jesus. The games that made him famous were all late-game macro games where he won with incredibly entertaining and creative strategies. It's like the only game you ever saw was the GSL2 thor push on Steppes. | ||
MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:51 HollowLord wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote: People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Uhhh, TLO's zerg was better than his terran in beta and before he switched to terran full-time. Yep, TLO was by no means "bad" with zerg. | ||
MythicalMage
1360 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:51 Dfgj wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2010 14:49 MythicalMage wrote: On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote: Watch his GSL games and tell me he favors "cheesy wins". On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Doesn't take an astronaut to figure out TLO favors cheesy wins over drawn-out games. Aside from fast rushes and the roaches, zerg play is mainly unchanged from what is was vs terran; It's still a pain in the @#% to defend a fast marine+tank push, especially if you went FE. People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Aside from that, GREAT... We'll get EVEN MORE "rerolled terrans" who will play zerg the same way all of these failed players do in zvz : 1 base spam 30 roaches a-move, something that basically forces the opponent to do the same... You are referring to the series where he Thor rushed and followed it up with cloaked banshees? 1/9 games does not a player make. | ||
kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:51 Dfgj wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2010 14:49 MythicalMage wrote: On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote: Watch his GSL games and tell me he favors "cheesy wins". On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote: This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit. Doesn't take an astronaut to figure out TLO favors cheesy wins over drawn-out games. Aside from fast rushes and the roaches, zerg play is mainly unchanged from what is was vs terran; It's still a pain in the @#% to defend a fast marine+tank push, especially if you went FE. People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Aside from that, GREAT... We'll get EVEN MORE "rerolled terrans" who will play zerg the same way all of these failed players do in zvz : 1 base spam 30 roaches a-move, something that basically forces the opponent to do the same... You are referring to the series where he Thor rushed and followed it up with cloaked banshees? Obviously one game in a Bo3 is indicative of his style. Might as well call FruitDealer a cheesy onebaser for six pooling at the GSL1. | ||
Archduke
United States119 Posts
On October 24 2010 02:22 MetalSlug wrote: I dont care waht race he plays aslong as he keeps entertaining us with inovative builds. You said it. It is a sad day for Terran fans though. NostraDario can't use nukes anymore! | ||
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