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Sylvr
United States524 Posts
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Sylvr
United States524 Posts
On October 09 2010 08:01 kontrol wrote: Very nice :D But what are they for? Forum sig? ![[image loading]](http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c384/Sylvr/How2Icon.jpg) | ||
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kontrol
Canada32 Posts
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Rakasha
Canada71 Posts
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domovoi
United States1478 Posts
Except the original comparison was between member states vs non-member states in whole not population. Correcting your logical fallacy. Oh and how's 1st year philosophy going? Going back to the original argument, because Norway and other European states are not in the EU they should just let it go, but the fact remains that the EU have more member states than non-member states in Europe. So the EU can represent Europe to a reasonable degree. This is because the states making up the EU are in Europe. The states making up the USA, are not in Canada. They do not represent Canada in any way shape or form. Regardless of the way you want to word it, it doesn't matter because the fact remains that USA and Canada will never want the other flag representing their country. I'd have the EXACT same argument if it were just a Canadian flag. Objectivity. That being said the EU flag preceeds the EU. FYI, there are no "states" that make up the US. The US is a single state, at least, for the definition of "state" that the EU uses for members and non-members (i.e. a sovereign entity). That the American "states" are called states is an anachronism from the 18th century, when the US states actually were sovereign under the Articles of Confederation (where the centralized government was very weak, much weaker than the EU). Regardless, your comparison was inaccurate and Jakalo's was correct. In terms of population, EU member states make up 68% of all of Europe. The US makes up 68% of North America minus Central America (which is assigned to Latin America for Battle.net, I think). The question is, if it's proper for the EU flag to represent all of Europe, shouldn't it likewise be proper for the US flag to represent all of North America? Of course, this simple exercise doesn't factor in feelings of nationalism (Canadians hate being associated with the US for some reason, even though the cultures are nearly identical, but I'm pretty sure the Swiss don't mind being associated with the EU.) And the argument that the EU flag precedes the EU and represents all of Europe (it's also used by the Council of Europe) is well-taken and makes the argument moot. | ||
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ccdnl
United States611 Posts
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marconi
Croatia220 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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pxds
Brazil72 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12041 Posts
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sLiniss
United States849 Posts
Good job OP! | ||
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Strutswell
Canada47 Posts
On October 09 2010 08:36 domovoi wrote: Of course, this simple exercise doesn't factor in feelings of nationalism (Canadians hate being associated with the US for some reason, even though the cultures are nearly identical, but I'm pretty sure the Swiss don't mind being associated with the EU.) Yup, that's one of the defining factors of being Canadian - is we must tell everyone we are not American (even though most of our mainstream media/entertainment comes from south of the border). Now sure, North America does include the word "America" but so does South America, in either case the only "Americans" are from the USA  Besides, aren't the Swiss pretty neutral on everything? | ||
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misaTO
Argentina204 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
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Nivoh
Norway259 Posts
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RyuChus
Canada442 Posts
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ehalf
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VTArlock
United States1763 Posts
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domovoi
United States1478 Posts
On October 09 2010 10:21 misaTO wrote: America is a continent. America also refers to the USA, and given that you seem to be an English speaker, I'm sure you realize 99.999% of the time when someone says "America" in English without a qualifier, they are referring to the country, not the continent(s). This holds true even if we ignore all the Americans, who are surely just ignoramuses right? By the way, I recall that referring to United States as "America" originated in Britain. Before the USA even existed. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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