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Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
October 01 2010 13:50 GMT
#561
Woooooooo thanks Artosis!
really?
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 13:52:51
October 01 2010 13:51 GMT
#562
On October 01 2010 17:58 Snowfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 17:40 ooni wrote:
On October 01 2010 17:37 Snowfield wrote:
Didint think teh game was too epic, i mean, it looked like most of my own TvZ's on this map, sit in base make marine tank medevac, get gold ecpo, get fucked by ultras

cool can I get your replays. You did triple dropship play like the video right? And killed all the expos hatches at least once... Replays would be nice~


Too little, too late / not enough, the game was over at the first fight anyway, idra had like 10 ultras left over, he couldve killed boxers army even if it was twice the size.

Don't get me wrong, i mean, he's decent, the dropship stuff was cute, he had a good BO etc, but i just didn't think the game was epic.

But by all means, step up and defend your bff some more.

oh what? you don't have a replay anything like that? You said the games were like that, why would you lie to people like that? ON THE INTERNET, no less! I'm starting to see a pattern here! Hmph!
Also who said the game was epic? Does every game a good player plays need to be epic?

On October 01 2010 17:58 Viruuus wrote:

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If Boxer learns how to macro decently he will be so good, so good~


QFT, his macro really couldve been a tad better, but still amazing skill shown right there

naw, his macro seemed kinda off, maybe I am macro heavy but I usually don't miss 4 mules only on 2 bases =_=, then again I don't do triple drops.

On October 01 2010 21:56 Orph wrote:
the difference between multiple drop ship by terran n defend the drop as zerg is simple the terran need 60 apm to drop in 3 location n the zerg need 600 apm to stop it...

Yep, only need 60 APM to do triple drops, imma put this on my Starcraft notes.
Hi!
Rolster
Profile Joined September 2010
United States19 Posts
October 01 2010 13:51 GMT
#563
Fuck yeah <3 u artosis
Some people like to post quotes here, but not me, fuck that.
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
October 01 2010 13:52 GMT
#564
my hero.. keep them coming artosis!
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 13:55:12
October 01 2010 13:54 GMT
#565
On October 01 2010 22:45 Sixes wrote:
Am I the only one wondering why Idra didn't make hydras ? With his creep spread and the infestors he could have killed a lot of those drops if he just had some anti air ... not talking about an army of hydras but 2 groups of 3 well placed would have done.


Even after the last patch hydras get owned by tanks.. the only gound units that dont is ultras and boxer went mass tanks in start.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 01 2010 13:55 GMT
#566
omg now everyones trying to be a smartass and point out any mistake they can think of, cause fuck yea, they are better than them obviously
you think you'd play a perfect game against a terran who has killed like 5 hatcheries already, let alone it being boxer?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ReDTerraN
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden88 Posts
October 01 2010 13:57 GMT
#567
AWESOME!! MORE PLZ!!!
I support the emperor! not false GODS!
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
October 01 2010 14:01 GMT
#568
Hope he do the switch.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
October 01 2010 14:02 GMT
#569
On October 01 2010 21:56 Orph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 17:40 ooni wrote:
On October 01 2010 17:37 Snowfield wrote:
Didint think teh game was too epic, i mean, it looked like most of my own TvZ's on this map, sit in base make marine tank medevac, get gold ecpo, get fucked by ultras

cool can I get your replays. You did triple dropship play like the video right? And killed all the expos hatches at least once... Replays would be nice~

the difference between multiple drop ship by terran n defend the drop as zerg is simple the terran need 60 apm to drop in 3 location n the zerg need 600 apm to stop it...


Actually it usually has a lot more to do with preperation to stop drops rather than on the spot 7600 apm. And the dropping is usually harder to do mechanically.

It's a lot like playing defensive, you have to account for every possible push given your information. It's a lot easier to do some random fixed timing push (or drop) but it's ultimately up to your opponent whether it succeeds or not*.

If you play enough games and really put in the effort you can become virtually invincible to this kind of stuff (not that anyone ever will though), It's about having the right spotters in the right places, just like defending 4gate means having the right units at the right time, not droning hardcore and then going f*** and doing some 555 apm spawning action.


*if there was one that would succeed regardless of your opponents actions it would become the only viable strategy basically, aside from hitting even earlier.
ESV Mapmaking!
ziz
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
203 Posts
October 01 2010 14:03 GMT
#570
rather disappointing video
I thought he would ddo something amazing but nevertheless, he is the emperor... he WILL figure out something better
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
October 01 2010 14:14 GMT
#571
Thanks alot! Awesome game.
God is dead.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-01 14:16:59
October 01 2010 14:15 GMT
#572
On October 01 2010 23:03 ziz wrote:
rather disappointing video
I thought he would ddo something amazing but nevertheless, he is the emperor... he WILL figure out something better


I hope you aren't saying that he didn't do anything 'amazing'. That multitasking, harass was amazing. There isn't that much people doing things like that.

But of course you cant compare this to his BW things.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
doktorFunken
Profile Joined September 2010
United States41 Posts
October 01 2010 14:28 GMT
#573
Totally amazing.
All we need is a little Energon and a lot of luck.
Rhakhar
Profile Joined October 2010
13 Posts
October 01 2010 14:31 GMT
#574
First time poster, long time lurker.
Thanks for the commentary Artosis!

However, I think there are a lot of fan boys here. Boxer did well, but he didn't do amazing, nor did he deserve the repeated compliments in the commentary, it kind of annoyed me honestly. With a bit of serious practice I'm sure Boxer would take Idra blindfolded. However, in this game Idra decimated him and there wasn't anything superb about Boxer's gameplay.

I'd love to see Boxer go full time SC2, I'm sure he's capable of amazing gameplay.
geek0
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark32 Posts
October 01 2010 14:33 GMT
#575
Watching a amazing game like this and then coming in here and watching people bash boxers amazing play like it was nothing makes me hate this community. Really, do you people even like starcraft? REALLY? cause i dont believe you.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
October 01 2010 14:33 GMT
#576
amazing.. can't take anything serious about balance until the god-like players start playing sc2
Sixes
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1123 Posts
October 01 2010 14:38 GMT
#577
On October 01 2010 22:54 TaKemE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 22:45 Sixes wrote:
Am I the only one wondering why Idra didn't make hydras ? With his creep spread and the infestors he could have killed a lot of those drops if he just had some anti air ... not talking about an army of hydras but 2 groups of 3 well placed would have done.


Even after the last patch hydras get owned by tanks.. the only gound units that dont is ultras and boxer went mass tanks in start.


I wasn't considering hydras as offense. 6 hydras (2 groups of 3) just annihilate dropships and make the drop action much more difficult especially with infestors around to FG. The creep spread means that the hydras can get to any infestor fast to take out a drop. At that point tanks are irrelevant as they are nowhere near the drops.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
October 01 2010 14:46 GMT
#578
On October 01 2010 22:55 OutlaW- wrote:
omg now everyones trying to be a smartass and point out any mistake they can think of, cause fuck yea, they are better than them obviously
you think you'd play a perfect game against a terran who has killed like 5 hatcheries already, let alone it being boxer?


Yeah people around here could use a little humility. Everyone here thinks they know better, but playing armchair quarterback doesn't get you into the top 200.
STX Fighting!
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
October 01 2010 14:46 GMT
#579
Great game. What's scary is that both players will just get better, and deliver even better games in tournaments as opposed to random bnet games.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
October 01 2010 14:48 GMT
#580
Honestly, Boxer's micro was good, but the rest of his game needs work. His macro was lousy, and the only thing that really impressed me about his strat was his drops.

What I especially didn't get was the lack of any real effective early harass. He made 3 reapers, did basically nothing with them, and then let IdrA spend the next 10 minutes macroing up and covering the map in creep. Everyone knows if you let IdrA play his favored macro game without disrupting him, he's gonna win.

Although for IdrA's part I thought he could have played a bit better as well. Specifically, the utter lack fo anti-air beyond Infestors was all that allowed Boxer to stay in this as long as he did--even a half dozen hydras would have ended this match significantly earlier.


Don't get me wrong, Boxer's micro was great, and IdrA's macro is terrific as always. But I think both players are capable of playing significantly better than they did here.

Still, its definitely nice to see Boxer's playstyle, and props to Artosis for getting this up for everyone to watch.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
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