EPTBoxeR vs IdrA - Page 29
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
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ooni
Australia1498 Posts
On October 01 2010 17:58 Snowfield wrote: Too little, too late / not enough, the game was over at the first fight anyway, idra had like 10 ultras left over, he couldve killed boxers army even if it was twice the size. Don't get me wrong, i mean, he's decent, the dropship stuff was cute, he had a good BO etc, but i just didn't think the game was epic. But by all means, step up and defend your bff some more. oh what? you don't have a replay anything like that? You said the games were like that, why would you lie to people like that? ON THE INTERNET, no less! I'm starting to see a pattern here! Hmph! Also who said the game was epic? Does every game a good player plays need to be epic? On October 01 2010 17:58 Viruuus wrote: QFT, his macro really couldve been a tad better, but still amazing skill shown right there naw, his macro seemed kinda off, maybe I am macro heavy but I usually don't miss 4 mules only on 2 bases =_=, then again I don't do triple drops. On October 01 2010 21:56 Orph wrote: the difference between multiple drop ship by terran n defend the drop as zerg is simple the terran need 60 apm to drop in 3 location n the zerg need 600 apm to stop it... Yep, only need 60 APM to do triple drops, imma put this on my Starcraft notes. | ||
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Rolster
United States19 Posts
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Escape
Canada306 Posts
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On October 01 2010 22:45 Sixes wrote: Am I the only one wondering why Idra didn't make hydras ? With his creep spread and the infestors he could have killed a lot of those drops if he just had some anti air ... not talking about an army of hydras but 2 groups of 3 well placed would have done. Even after the last patch hydras get owned by tanks.. the only gound units that dont is ultras and boxer went mass tanks in start. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
you think you'd play a perfect game against a terran who has killed like 5 hatcheries already, let alone it being boxer? | ||
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ReDTerraN
Sweden88 Posts
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
On October 01 2010 21:56 Orph wrote: Actually it usually has a lot more to do with preperation to stop drops rather than on the spot 7600 apm. And the dropping is usually harder to do mechanically. It's a lot like playing defensive, you have to account for every possible push given your information. It's a lot easier to do some random fixed timing push (or drop) but it's ultimately up to your opponent whether it succeeds or not*. If you play enough games and really put in the effort you can become virtually invincible to this kind of stuff (not that anyone ever will though), It's about having the right spotters in the right places, just like defending 4gate means having the right units at the right time, not droning hardcore and then going f*** and doing some 555 apm spawning action. *if there was one that would succeed regardless of your opponents actions it would become the only viable strategy basically, aside from hitting even earlier. | ||
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ziz
203 Posts
I thought he would ddo something amazing but nevertheless, he is the emperor... he WILL figure out something better | ||
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Rabbitmaster
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Grettin
42400 Posts
On October 01 2010 23:03 ziz wrote: rather disappointing video I thought he would ddo something amazing but nevertheless, he is the emperor... he WILL figure out something better I hope you aren't saying that he didn't do anything 'amazing'. That multitasking, harass was amazing. There isn't that much people doing things like that. But of course you cant compare this to his BW things. | ||
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doktorFunken
United States41 Posts
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Rhakhar
13 Posts
Thanks for the commentary Artosis! However, I think there are a lot of fan boys here. Boxer did well, but he didn't do amazing, nor did he deserve the repeated compliments in the commentary, it kind of annoyed me honestly. With a bit of serious practice I'm sure Boxer would take Idra blindfolded. However, in this game Idra decimated him and there wasn't anything superb about Boxer's gameplay. I'd love to see Boxer go full time SC2, I'm sure he's capable of amazing gameplay. | ||
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geek0
Denmark32 Posts
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
On October 01 2010 22:54 TaKemE wrote: Even after the last patch hydras get owned by tanks.. the only gound units that dont is ultras and boxer went mass tanks in start. I wasn't considering hydras as offense. 6 hydras (2 groups of 3) just annihilate dropships and make the drop action much more difficult especially with infestors around to FG. The creep spread means that the hydras can get to any infestor fast to take out a drop. At that point tanks are irrelevant as they are nowhere near the drops. | ||
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vesicular
United States1310 Posts
On October 01 2010 22:55 OutlaW- wrote: omg now everyones trying to be a smartass and point out any mistake they can think of, cause fuck yea, they are better than them obviously you think you'd play a perfect game against a terran who has killed like 5 hatcheries already, let alone it being boxer? Yeah people around here could use a little humility. Everyone here thinks they know better, but playing armchair quarterback doesn't get you into the top 200. | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
What I especially didn't get was the lack of any real effective early harass. He made 3 reapers, did basically nothing with them, and then let IdrA spend the next 10 minutes macroing up and covering the map in creep. Everyone knows if you let IdrA play his favored macro game without disrupting him, he's gonna win. Although for IdrA's part I thought he could have played a bit better as well. Specifically, the utter lack fo anti-air beyond Infestors was all that allowed Boxer to stay in this as long as he did--even a half dozen hydras would have ended this match significantly earlier. Don't get me wrong, Boxer's micro was great, and IdrA's macro is terrific as always. But I think both players are capable of playing significantly better than they did here. Still, its definitely nice to see Boxer's playstyle, and props to Artosis for getting this up for everyone to watch. | ||
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