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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On October 02 2010 01:38 aidnai wrote: Number 4 is "Slayer" making it even more interesting... and they are all terran!? Does he seriously have three bnet accounts in the same division? Ofcause not.. that is other players.. alot are copying big names. | ||
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Ohdamn
Germany765 Posts
absolutely awesome to see those two legends play on ladder! btw i'd love to see this hydra/creep strat you talked about! i actually can't see this working on such a large map O_o | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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darkwing.Huzow
United States35 Posts
On October 01 2010 13:39 babolatt wrote: It's interesting that esports is one of the only things where people have this idea that people can't judge other people's skill just because they aren't as good themselves. I can watch Hockey and tell when a player isn't as good as another player, or is playing poorly even though I'm not a great hockey player. I think the point isn't that you shouldn't critique pros but you should be realistic about it. A lot of people here need a lot more humility. When you're comparing Drew Brees to Tom Brady you would never say something like, "They look like I did when I played in high school" unless you are a mouth-breathing douchebag. Beat IdrA or BoxeR a tournament, then tell me that this match looks like your TvZ matchups. Until then you're just making yourself a laughingstock. I do think critiquing pros should totally be inbounds - that's part of any spectator sport. Who cares if you're gold or bronze, everyone can watch and appreciate pros play and decide for themselves who they think is good. But even in relatively simple (compared to SC) games like basketball or hockey, amateurs simply don't know all the little, subtle things that are going on. Of course you can see how baller Kobe or Lebron are, but you really aren't going to be able to judge their skill precisely by watching their play. Certainly not as well as another pro could judge them. But it's clearly ridiculous for anyone to say we shouldn't be judging pros. Of course we should be. It's a spectator sport. That's what spectators do. ... It's also ridiculous to say anything negative about BoxeR's play here. The triple-pronged attacks are just pants on the ground good. I haven't seen any of the current generation of SC2 pros use micro that good. When Boxer gets up to speed he's going to crush the current top 200 (same is probably true for all the Koreans who haven't switched from BW to SC2 yet). On October 01 2010 19:31 frucisky wrote: And towards the end, he should have GGed rather than doing that gold level terran stuff. How does he expect to come back with no CCs and just 2 siege tanks >.< It's a fucking game and he was having fun? Why so serious? On October 01 2010 20:12 FuRong wrote: I think a lot of people are missing the point here. Yes, Idra won, Idra outplayed Boxer and Idra had control of the match from the point where he destroyed Boxer's main army. But what's amazing about the game and what is making people excited is not the fact that he lost, but the manner in which he lost, and more specifically how he managed to do SO MUCH damage with so few units for like a full 15 minutes. Despite only having half the army size, he ran Idra around and around the map, sniping stuff left and right and managed to kill his expansions multiple times. At one point Idra was forced to long distance mine from the gold because he was basically broke and couldn't afford to rebuild another hatchery. The point is that if Boxer can do that much in a game where he's down 60 food and has basically no chance of winning, it's exciting to think what moves he could manage to pull out in a situation where he reaches the midgame on equal footing. (Removed spoiler tags per the comment above that this is a ladder game and the replay is in the first post, so there's no reason for anyone to be spoiled - just watch the game!) Yes, I agree completely with this. The point is, if BoxeR's macro - by which I mean mostly keeping mineral at 0 and expanding faster - was better, he would rape. Because of what he showed he was capable of with a very small relative army size. Godly micro on display. | ||
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DreXxiN
United States494 Posts
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ocho
United States172 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Both players just make me want to play sc2 and never stop until I'm as good as them. Boxer should have been screwed all game but SOMEHOW he just keeps killing hatcheries, amazing play. And Idra, I'm totally copying that 3 queen tactic. | ||
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darkwing.Huzow
United States35 Posts
On October 02 2010 03:03 Osmoses wrote: Awesome friggin game oO Both players just make me want to play sc2 and never stop until I'm as good as them. Boxer should have been screwed all game but SOMEHOW he just keeps killing hatcheries, amazing play. And Idra, I'm totally copying that 3 queen tactic. Totally. eff my job, when am I gonna win the lottery and be able to dedicate myself to SC? | ||
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JIJI_
United States123 Posts
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
Man, i have to spread my creep ALOT more. | ||
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SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
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TSM
Great Britain584 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On October 02 2010 02:18 darkwing.Huzow wrote: It's a fucking game and he was having fun? Why so serious? No way. BoxeR was making a banshee, those things can kill like 500 ultralisks, seriously. | ||
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Bob Loblaw
England211 Posts
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
On October 02 2010 03:40 SuperYo1000 wrote: I'd like to see boxer matched up with a zerg player who was way into nydus worms.......Because I dont know who it was but I watched some Pro zerg player do some heavy nydus worming all over the place all at the same time and I got the same feeling when watching boxer which was...."dude what a bad ass" im pretty sure that was Cool/Fruitdealer. He would attack an expo and build a nydus worm while attacking, do a bunch of damage and get away clean. It was magnificent. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
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BrodiaQ
United States892 Posts
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EvasivE
United States70 Posts
but wow awesome creative plays from boxer, i think i could sense that idra was a bit flustered but just out-macrod boxer. once he plays a bit more i think boxer will have better transitions and macro mechanics and will be a force to be reckoned with. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On October 02 2010 04:05 EvasivE wrote: i had an erection for 27min 53 sec, a new personal record. but wow awesome creative plays from boxer, i think i could sense that idra was a bit flustered but just out-macrod boxer. once he plays a bit more i think boxer will have better transitions and macro mechanics and will be a force to be reckoned with. Another 3 hours and 22 minutes and 7 seconds, and you'd have been in trouble | ||
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rally_point
Canada458 Posts
Thanks again Artosis | ||
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