EPTIf all the self proclaimed "good" players who whine constantly about the low-level discussion in the SC2 strategy forum actually started posting there, it would become a much more pleasant place.
[VOTE] SC2 Player quality limits in order to post - Page 25
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c.Deadly
United States545 Posts
If all the self proclaimed "good" players who whine constantly about the low-level discussion in the SC2 strategy forum actually started posting there, it would become a much more pleasant place. | ||
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TechDeft
United States211 Posts
On September 22 2010 01:30 Geisterkarle wrote: I see two problems: 1. What abput players, that are actually really good but decided that they don't want to ladder and just play custom games against (also high level) buddies! They would be forced to go against their will and ladder just to discuss in these threads! 2. What exactly should these subforums be all about? i.e. if this is to discuss strategies on a "high level" ... well just being good doesn't mean you have "full" knowledge of the game and be a good strategist! There are definitely players out there that "see" instantly positive and negative sides of new strategies and can elaborate about them ... but as a player don't have the micro/macro/multitasking skills to back them up! (if I want to brag I could say, that I'm one of them...) On the other side there are players, that are really good in making strategies work ... but are too "stupid" for own ideas and can't see key points in before someone else tells them so! (my favorite in this direction would propably be the well known "kolll"!) so there are a lot of problems... Which is why the participants should be mod/community chosen. | ||
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imaROBOT
United States81 Posts
Or.. At least TL needs to ramp up the modding on the forums.. removing bad threads, banning trolls, warning whiners.. ect. | ||
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TechDeft
United States211 Posts
On September 22 2010 01:36 imaROBOT wrote: I think this is such a great idea. You can already see useless post and people trolling. I do believe it would be very hard to get a forum created that only allows access if you are at a certain point level. If possible, though I think TL should get on this idea. It's also going to hurt a lot of the guys that are not at that level, but I think the good that would come out of it out weighs that. Or.. At least TL needs to ramp up the modding on the forums.. removing bad threads, banning trolls, warning whiners.. ect. NO POINTS. What don't people get about points having very little to do with actual skill or ability to discuss things in an informative manner?! How many people post here everyday saying I'm 1x00 diamond, here is what I think...and it's a bunch of nonsensical bullshit. | ||
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
As Day[9] proved in Day[9] Daily #182, even a "not-so-hot" player can come up with an interesting build order or a technique. Myself personally doesn't even play SC2 right now, but I love reading strategy discussions. I do stay my noobish ass out of them thou. Not because I got nothing to say, but because someone already said it before me. I would agree (somewhat) with "you need n points in Diamond League in order to reply to this tread", but I would hate it if I see a "you need n points in Diamond League in order to read in this forum". | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On September 22 2010 01:53 bonifaceviii wrote: You know what, this thread has convinced me that maybe the high-level only forum is a good idea | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
I'm ok with it because I don't really care too much >< | ||
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crimsonsentinel
United States179 Posts
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trevabob
United Kingdom350 Posts
Even if such a system was to be created, it should be on an invitational basis with posters chosen by the TL staff rather than something based on the abortion of a league system set up by blizzard. | ||
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SnakeChomp
Canada125 Posts
 ) and their ladder rank has no correlation with their ability to post coherently or to spell.I don't see how you can seriously consider this idea given that all it will accomplish is to give tl.net an elitist reputation without any real benefits. Sure, there will be a random subforum with a smaller amount of posts and therefore a smaller amount of bad posts than the main forum, but the percentage of bad posts to quality posts is not likely to improve. If you want some way to highlight posters who make quality posts, there should be some sort of system like on the b.net forums where you can rate up/down posts. Rating up someones post should give that person points which can be made visible to identify the quality posters from the trollers. | ||
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-fj.
Samoa462 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On September 22 2010 02:31 SnakeChomp wrote: The problem with this idea is that it is implicitly assuming that anyone who is high up on the ladder is able to coherently communicate ideas, can spell and use punctuation properly and also has an understanding of the game. Any four gating protoss can get high up enough on the ladder to qualify to post in the elitist sub forum, but chances are they won't have an in depth understanding of the game (cause four gating is just so easy according to Day9 ) and their ladder rank has no correlation with their ability to post coherently or to spell.I don't see how you can seriously consider this idea given that all it will accomplish is to give tl.net an elitist reputation without any real benefits. Sure, there will be a random subforum with a smaller amount of posts and therefore a smaller amount of bad posts than the main forum, but the percentage of bad posts to quality posts is not likely to improve. If you want some way to highlight posters who make quality posts, there should be some sort of system like on the b.net forums where you can rate up/down posts. Rating up someones post should give that person points which can be made visible to identify the quality posters from the trollers. I don't know where you people get the funny idea that you can 4gate your way up to 1200 points. Seriously, what kind of rainbow ladder are you guys playing? If such a thing is even possible then why the hell isn't everyone a 1200 point toss? Why the hell aren't YOU a 1200 point toss? Come on, seriously.. we all know 4 gate is a decently easy to pull off strat and sure it can amazing, but against decent terrans who know when to scan and put down bunkers.. its a pretty balance build and I doubt anyone could reach 1200 points with this single strat. | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On September 22 2010 02:48 dinmsab wrote: I don't know where you people get the funny idea that you can 4gate your way up to 1200 points. Seriously, what kind of rainbow ladder are you guys playing? If such a thing is even possible then why the hell isn't everyone a 1200 point toss? Why the hell are aren't YOU a 1200 point toss? Come on, seriously.. we all know 4 gate is a decently easy to pull off strat and sure it can amazing, but against decent terrans who know when to scan and put down bunkers.. its a pretty balance build and I doubt anyone could reach 1200 points with this single strat. day 9 said so and you know : if day9 say something everyone of lower level believe it whatever he say..... | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
Also, OP, sorry to knitpick but it's something I see SO often it drives me crazy, nothing personal I promise. "Definitely" and "Defiantly" are completely different words with completely different meanings. If English isn't your first language then no big deal, I totally understand that it's easy to mix up, but this is so common all over the Internet, even my online college classes which is especially tragic, it drives me nuts. /rant | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On September 22 2010 01:35 TechDeft wrote: Which is why the participants should be mod/community chosen. Do you really think there is no "TL guild section" here which is invisible to non-TL-guildees, where the guild discusses its own tactics? Strategies and discussing builds is VERY IMPORTANT and that is one of the things EVERYONE in a professional team will keep secret! So no "high level players" will post there anyways on strategies. The only things - which are happening already - are things like posts in whine-threads about balance and they dont really matter. | ||
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McFoo
United Kingdom180 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:17 Karthane wrote: I'd be up for having a sub forum that only "pros" can post in, just to have all their posts in one place and to be able to easily look at their strats/thoughts etc. But i think these people should not be just over 1200 rating. I think the TL staff should designate who they think should be able to post there. Hopefully people like IdrA, Huk, LzGaMeR, etc. Yes, the only valid version of this would be a subforum that allowed professionals to post in for the benefit of the amateurs. Having 'X' number of points doesn't qualify you as an enlightened poster imo. edit: how would this work logistically? Would Nazgul ask Blizzard if they could do a deal such that your TL account was linked with your bnet account? Sounds farfetched to me. There is no way to verify if a poster is who he says he is: welcome to the internet. | ||
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charlie420247
United States692 Posts
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