EPT[VOTE] SC2 Player quality limits in order to post - Page 26
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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McFoo
United Kingdom180 Posts
On September 22 2010 03:42 Malminos wrote: How is a forum that only pros can read or write beneficial to the community as a whole, at all? Ones that pros could write in and that all else could read. It would be beneficial to know the pros thoughts on the game (to the extent that they would be willing to share them). | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
If theres anything to discuss, people can always create threads to talk about it anyway. | ||
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Vorgrim
Korea (North)1601 Posts
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dahornnn
United Kingdom395 Posts
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drans
Canada33 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On September 22 2010 03:42 Malminos wrote: How is a forum that only pros can read or write beneficial to the community as a whole, at all? A subforum with every thread and post being from people who have a decent understanding of the game IS beneficial to the community as a whole compared to the current shitfest we now call the SC2 strategy subforum. I have nothing against beginner players but when people start to treat the strategy forums as if it was yahoo answers then we have a serious problem at hand. Improving your basic mechanics is all you need to get from bronze to platinum/low diamond and for anything else regarding build orders or basic unit counters you can always check out liquipedia. | ||
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cocosoft
Sweden1068 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:04 dynamite wrote: Elitist much? User was warned for this post | ||
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
Just saying, because 1200+ doesn't mean pro.. by any means. It means you are good enough to ladder with a 55-60% win rate. 1600-1900 is a different story. And that number raises every day thanks to bonus pool. But if someone with high karma (thus they are trusted to be a good source of information) posted something... | ||
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Hammurabio
152 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On September 22 2010 03:57 Fa1nT wrote: It would be better if the site had a karma system. Say MorroW posts a bunch of good strats or something, and people rate him for it, and he ranks up in some way and is allowed to post there. Just saying, because 1200+ doesn't mean pro.. by any means. It means you are good enough to ladder with a 55-60% win rate. 1600-1900 is a different story. And that number raises every day thanks to bonus pool. But if someone with high karma (thus they are trusted to be a good source of information) posted something... I dont think this is a good idea. If anyone writes anything that is unpopular he's gonna be voted down like crazy. Even if he's right. Agree that 1200+ doesnt mean pro though and that it should be higher than that. | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
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McFoo
United Kingdom180 Posts
On September 22 2010 03:57 Fa1nT wrote: Just saying, because 1200+ doesn't mean pro.. by any means. It means you are good enough to ladder with a 55-60% win rate. Nah, not necessarily. There are people in the top 100 with <55%. It's not just how much you win but also who you win/lose against. | ||
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Satire
Canada295 Posts
Overall, I think such a forum would serve a great purpose. An alternate solution is to simply divide the strategy discussions into brackets because strategies that work in some brackets, may not work in others. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
But seriously, ANY goddamn rating filter to weed out posts coming from bronze level players would be great. Yes, it is elitist, but at least this will be coming from elitists who know what they are friggin talking about. This is what they do at Arenajunkies. Different game yes, but that is the system they use, and I love it. I don't have read some crap from a sup-par player and filter it out just to pick out the High-level legitimate advice I'm looking for. Plus I love how it will teach some players a lesson in humility (which SC2 players desperately need). Oh hay guyz I'm a 1xxx diamond player ! I'm great listen to meh and feed me KFC!!". This system will be a great "stfu 1900 + pt diamond players only!". Currently it'd be difficult to implement something like that, because the skill range in the diamond is so out of whack in relation to the ratings. Only around 1600+ do I think rating has any merit for skill, and even then it is still questionable. But certainly over time as the ladder matures, and people get put in their place (people who are no longer able to 4gate to 1500 points), a sub forum for high level players can only help the community. I haven't seen this sort of system harm a community yet (except maybe destroy the epeen of less skilled players), so it's safe. | ||
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Merlinius
62 Posts
but the way it is now, with only one forum, it's no surprise that weak players give their (low-quality) opinions on good players' posts, because there is no specific platform for low-level players who want to learn the game. if they had one, i'm sure the problem would disappear without having to implement point filters etc. | ||
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Cranberries
Wales567 Posts
If MorroW's opinion is that "terran are fine, everyone else just needs to l2p" and then IdrA's opinion is that "x Terran player wouldn't make it to gold if they switched to Zerg" - both these opinions are just as worthless as a new player saying "6 POOL IS IMBALANCED." Forcing ratings will not suddenly increase the IQ of a poster, it just means they become elitist and ultimately become narcissists who think they can walk on water. I really, really oppose the idea. | ||
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P00RKID
United States424 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
Posting on this site isn't a right. Why should that be any different for the strat forum?? Someone can be an idiot at starcraft but a good poster otherwise. They shouldnt be kicked off the forum, but I reading about some bronze level idiot theorycraft about a concept they don't know ruins the community. It spreads bad information. I was originally for the pro forum or whatever, but it would be such a very small community, and that would prevent the very rare new poster/low ranking guy who has a valid point from contributing. I think those people are few and far between, but you should at least have the opportunity to prove that you aren't an idiot... | ||
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