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Malminos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States321 Posts
September 21 2010 18:42 GMT
#501
How is a forum that only pros can read or write beneficial to the community as a whole, at all?
"To dream of because become happiness "
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
September 21 2010 18:42 GMT
#502
Definitely allow public read!
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McFoo
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
September 21 2010 18:45 GMT
#503
On September 22 2010 03:42 Malminos wrote:
How is a forum that only pros can read or write beneficial to the community as a whole, at all?


Ones that pros could write in and that all else could read. It would be beneficial to know the pros thoughts on the game (to the extent that they would be willing to share them).
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
September 21 2010 18:45 GMT
#504
Just get a subforum where someone who is recognized as a top player to post, so that we would be able to see some insightful discussion between the pro players :3

If theres anything to discuss, people can always create threads to talk about it anyway.
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Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
September 21 2010 18:50 GMT
#505
silver noobie here. I voted no public write option, as a high level only section would be a great source of info for all levels of player.
dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
September 21 2010 18:51 GMT
#506
1200pt+ to write allowing public to read would probably create the most interesting threads for anyone one to read strategy wise !
drans
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada33 Posts
September 21 2010 18:52 GMT
#507
WoW did this with ArenaJunkies forum that required gladiator (if you didn't play, similar to high level diamond players) to post but anyone to read. Worked very well at first but slowly declined as the game got easier.
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
September 21 2010 18:56 GMT
#508
On September 22 2010 03:42 Malminos wrote:
How is a forum that only pros can read or write beneficial to the community as a whole, at all?


A subforum with every thread and post being from people who have a decent understanding of the game IS beneficial to the community as a whole compared to the current shitfest we now call the SC2 strategy subforum. I have nothing against beginner players but when people start to treat the strategy forums as if it was yahoo answers then we have a serious problem at hand. Improving your basic mechanics is all you need to get from bronze to platinum/low diamond and for anything else regarding build orders or basic unit counters you can always check out liquipedia.
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cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
September 21 2010 18:56 GMT
#509
On September 21 2010 04:04 dynamite wrote:
Elitist much?



User was warned for this post
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Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 21 2010 18:57 GMT
#510
It would be better if the site had a karma system. Say MorroW posts a bunch of good strats or something, and people rate him for it, and he ranks up in some way and is allowed to post there.

Just saying, because 1200+ doesn't mean pro.. by any means. It means you are good enough to ladder with a 55-60% win rate. 1600-1900 is a different story. And that number raises every day thanks to bonus pool.

But if someone with high karma (thus they are trusted to be a good source of information) posted something...
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
September 21 2010 19:02 GMT
#511
Really, there needs to be 10x more moderators. If the moderators can quickly and consistently warn/ban users for undesired posts, the quality of posts will rise.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 21 2010 19:30 GMT
#512
On September 22 2010 03:57 Fa1nT wrote:
It would be better if the site had a karma system. Say MorroW posts a bunch of good strats or something, and people rate him for it, and he ranks up in some way and is allowed to post there.

Just saying, because 1200+ doesn't mean pro.. by any means. It means you are good enough to ladder with a 55-60% win rate. 1600-1900 is a different story. And that number raises every day thanks to bonus pool.

But if someone with high karma (thus they are trusted to be a good source of information) posted something...


I dont think this is a good idea.
If anyone writes anything that is unpopular he's gonna be voted down like crazy. Even if he's right.

Agree that 1200+ doesnt mean pro though and that it should be higher than that.
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Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
September 21 2010 19:31 GMT
#513
As long as I can read it, I'm for it. Imo, it would be very insightful.
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McFoo
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
September 21 2010 19:34 GMT
#514
On September 22 2010 03:57 Fa1nT wrote:


Just saying, because 1200+ doesn't mean pro.. by any means. It means you are good enough to ladder with a 55-60% win rate.


Nah, not necessarily. There are people in the top 100 with <55%. It's not just how much you win but also who you win/lose against.
Satire
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada295 Posts
September 21 2010 19:44 GMT
#515
It would be ideal if people discussed strategies in such a forum. I would enjoy seeing strategy discussions from the tip top of Team Liquid. I think it might be tough to get them to come and actually do it though. I'm not sure about 1200 rating though. I am holding my own against such rated players, and I haven't played an RTS in over 10 years, and never played SC1. (And no, I don't do it by one base play or cheese)

Overall, I think such a forum would serve a great purpose. An alternate solution is to simply divide the strategy discussions into brackets because strategies that work in some brackets, may not work in others.
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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
September 21 2010 19:58 GMT
#516
Haha I'm 1200~ I guess I made the cut lol. Honestly the people I play with 1k+ rating differ so much in skill, I just gave up trying to judge people at around those ratings.

But seriously, ANY goddamn rating filter to weed out posts coming from bronze level players would be great. Yes, it is elitist, but at least this will be coming from elitists who know what they are friggin talking about. This is what they do at Arenajunkies. Different game yes, but that is the system they use, and I love it. I don't have read some crap from a sup-par player and filter it out just to pick out the High-level legitimate advice I'm looking for. Plus I love how it will teach some players a lesson in humility (which SC2 players desperately need). Oh hay guyz I'm a 1xxx diamond player ! I'm great listen to meh and feed me KFC!!". This system will be a great "stfu 1900 + pt diamond players only!".

Currently it'd be difficult to implement something like that, because the skill range in the diamond is so out of whack in relation to the ratings. Only around 1600+ do I think rating has any merit for skill, and even then it is still questionable. But certainly over time as the ladder matures, and people get put in their place (people who are no longer able to 4gate to 1500 points), a sub forum for high level players can only help the community. I haven't seen this sort of system harm a community yet (except maybe destroy the epeen of less skilled players), so it's safe.
Merlinius
Profile Joined September 2010
62 Posts
September 21 2010 20:18 GMT
#517
imo just divide the strategy section into two or three forums "beginner, (advanced,) professional" and everybody can decide for himself where he wants to post. and i'm sure the vast majority of beginners will not come and spam the professional forum if they had a place of their own. i don't see the need to block people out by force (like exact point ratings).

but the way it is now, with only one forum, it's no surprise that weak players give their (low-quality) opinions on good players' posts, because there is no specific platform for low-level players who want to learn the game. if they had one, i'm sure the problem would disappear without having to implement point filters etc.
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
September 21 2010 20:38 GMT
#518
Just because someone is a top player doesn't mean his or her opinion is more valuable than me, who plays at 1500 Protoss, and continually gets massacred by banshee/marine/raven timing pushes that are just undefendable due to the damage output of the Marine and Banshee while being protected by the most broken thing in the game: the PDD.

If MorroW's opinion is that "terran are fine, everyone else just needs to l2p" and then IdrA's opinion is that "x Terran player wouldn't make it to gold if they switched to Zerg" - both these opinions are just as worthless as a new player saying "6 POOL IS IMBALANCED." Forcing ratings will not suddenly increase the IQ of a poster, it just means they become elitist and ultimately become narcissists who think they can walk on water. I really, really oppose the idea.
P00RKID
Profile Joined December 2009
United States424 Posts
September 21 2010 21:00 GMT
#519
I'm all for it. Those people that are against it must not realize the idea is for a sub forum. You can still post your "quality" oppinions on strategy elsewhere, so what would be wrong with it? It would be a place where you could see what the views from the players that are in shape and know their stuff. Saying they would become narcissistic? Have you seen the types of posts coming from the "bronzies"?
"Does your butt hurt? 'cause you fell from heaven once the cast was over?" Artosis
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-21 21:08:47
September 21 2010 21:06 GMT
#520
Link to bnet profile or a rank icon next to the name + just super strict moderation for dumb and incorrect posts. Chill handed out strat forum bans in BW years ago and that worked a lot.

Posting on this site isn't a right. Why should that be any different for the strat forum?? Someone can be an idiot at starcraft but a good poster otherwise. They shouldnt be kicked off the forum, but I reading about some bronze level idiot theorycraft about a concept they don't know ruins the community. It spreads bad information.

I was originally for the pro forum or whatever, but it would be such a very small community, and that would prevent the very rare new poster/low ranking guy who has a valid point from contributing. I think those people are few and far between, but you should at least have the opportunity to prove that you aren't an idiot...
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