On September 21 2010 04:45 Wr3k wrote:
1200 points is hardly progamer status, but it might be a start. Besides, it would be impossible to enforce. How would you determine which users have 1200+ points?

sc2ranks.com API.

Geneq

Poland165 Posts

September 22 2010 14:53 GMT

#542

Good idea, with the "everyone can read, only select few can write" option. As a noob myself it's hard to read through strategy threads and decide which replies are worth anything and which are from other noobs (no offence). That way I could read some guides and discussion from people I can trust (sort of, at least).
As for implementation, something like the featured stream maybe? Some posters will be given the "pro" status and as such could write in the elite threads.
PS. by "pro" i don't mean only pro-players, but overall posters that have proven to be worthy.

Teejing

Germany1360 Posts

September 22 2010 14:59 GMT

#543

Havent read much here just saying to "keep it simple". Possible give out some invites for this vip forum, from there the invited go invite other worthy ones.

We never were equals after all.

marvels

United States5 Posts

September 22 2010 15:03 GMT

#544

While I think that the idea is good, the proposed implementation of the idea is incorrect. SC2 points are not sufficent in rating skill, and a lot of lower league players actually have a lot of in-game knowledge but haven't developed the speed to compete with top players.
I also think that the amount of mindless imbalance posters will slowly diminish as they either stop playing the game, or figure out that balance is actually less of an issue as it is to just improve your overall play.

number1gog

United States1081 Posts

September 22 2010 15:07 GMT

#545

I would support this idea. Right now looking for tips in the strategy section is.... risky. To say the least.

SONE

Canada839 Posts

September 22 2010 15:09 GMT

#546

this is teamliquid not arenajunkies =[
that being said, indifferent for me

Doc Daneeka

United States577 Posts

September 22 2010 15:15 GMT

#547

BRONZIES

um.. i'm voting to leave it the way it is. i don't think the right attitude to have is that of 'cleansing' the community by dividing it up and reducing access. it's snobby and to be honest, attitudes like this have more to do with why i don't post much here than someone in bronze who doesn't know what they're talking about. you can just ignore someone who is clueless, but if the role models here are acting like this it sets the tone for the whole forum.

habermas

United Kingdom304 Posts

September 22 2010 15:18 GMT

#548

I think the idea of 1337 subforum is ok, but what I would prefer is just a mandatory signature or something similar that indicates each player's rank/points so you can judge their competence when reading the posts.

It's not like people below 1200 points can't have good ideas and taking voice away from them won't necessary be good. Also people in lower leagues may be struggling with something basic which is not necessarily obvious for top players so, for example, a platinum level player may be a better advisor to a gold level player in some cases.

The other idea would be to just create some kind of noobs section for sub-diamond players where the basics are discussed which would clean up strategy section from a lot of unnecessary threads/posts. I belive that noobs sub-forum + strategy forum is a better solution than strategy forum + 1337 sub-forum.

SilverPotato

United States560 Posts

September 22 2010 15:19 GMT

#549

I would like to say that this is a good idea, however this won't make balance threads less frequent but more so amplify their effect on the community. As most pros (don't feel like mentioning names) voice their opinions on something they view as imba then thousands upon thousands of "scrubs" latch on to that idea and reinforce it (siege tanks being a prime example). Blowing a simple complaint way out of proportion.

If anything, this new forum would require heavy moderation if open for reading by the public. As I'm sure if a person posts something in that forum, then 10 copies of it will be made on the standard SC2 forums.

Again, good idea, but will require a good bit of thought if launched correctly.

Scorcher2k

United States802 Posts

September 22 2010 15:30 GMT

#550

First you should go and ask said pros if they would honestly post here more.

daewdasd

Germany64 Posts

September 22 2010 15:30 GMT

#551

As Chill pointed out in one of the Weapon of Choice shows this idea is nonsense. There are so many high level players that have a huge undersatnding of the game, but they dont play as much and therefor not a high rank. And lots of good players just play custom-games. Why should they not be allowed to post in that subforum?
On the other hand lots of players with a high ranking are just massgaming and just copy other players. Those people cannot contribute much to an elitesubforum.

And the use of a subforum with just a handfull of users is pretty useless. If you have to wait two weeks for a simple answer is not that good. Also the top players are mostly not that activ in the community.
TL lives from the big communits they have. Often i get so many new insights in the game because there are so many different opinions to one question.

yups

Denmark116 Posts

September 22 2010 15:33 GMT

#552

I think its a good idea. Its not like us low level players would get silenced, all the regular forums would still be there but it would be easier to find some good solid advice. Ofcourse theres still fools in 1200 diamond but it would guarantee a certain level of experience and the threads would not get so needlessly long.

I dont think its more elitist than the ladder system in general. I mean theres a reason you dont pitch bronze and diamond players against each other. And if anyone wants to gain access they can just earn their diamond ranking.

aseq

Netherlands3969 Posts

September 22 2010 15:37 GMT

#553

A filter that you can turn on and off, hiding lesser players' replies might also be an idea? Separate forums create a lot of distance/separation and people will join the 'better' forum at the moment they hit 1200 once.

ToeJam

United States282 Posts

September 22 2010 15:39 GMT

#554

I hope this is actually possible. I would love some good strategy reads

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

September 22 2010 15:40 GMT

#555

i don't think it's a bad thing to have a subforum where the higher-tier players can talk and debate strategy.. especially if it's still viewable to the public, i feel like it would also reduce the amount of flame "no your a noob do this" that tends to occur in the sc2 strategy section, so lower players can read from the top-level players on TL and see waht their thinking i s

Kennigit

Canada19447 Posts

September 22 2010 15:41 GMT

#556

We've had discussions about this in staff and theres definitely arguments on both sides ( i support it and am lobbying for some implementation of it :3 )

noD

2230 Posts

September 22 2010 15:44 GMT

#557

IT would be kinda educational and the best topics could even be fixed ...
maybe even posted on LP ?

Pekkz

Norway1505 Posts

September 22 2010 15:45 GMT

#558

I agree with people who say its hard to figure out whos just writing bullshit and whos actually worth listening to. I would like forum like that very much, but the requirement couldnt be too high or it would be very inactive, since top players are not VERY keen on posting new threads etc.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 22 2010 15:47 GMT

#559

On September 22 2010 23:49 puttputt wrote:

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sc2ranks.com API.

That would require that you register your b.net name with TL. Couldn't someone lie and pick someone's name from the top of Korean ladder that doesn't post here?

Zozo

Brazil2579 Posts

September 22 2010 15:48 GMT

#560

I like this idea, just have to make sure that threads relevant to the whole community (bnet, bugs, blizzard, tournaments) are posted on the public area. Thumbs up.