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FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
September 22 2010 15:49 GMT
#561
I think it's a great idea.

I remember there was a guide that Sheth posted during beta that a LOT of guys bashed on. It was an unbelievably fantastic guide, but some platinum players that thought they were better than everyone polluted the thread for people who were genuinely trying to learn.
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contrast
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia21 Posts
September 22 2010 15:50 GMT
#562
I don't know why people are getting hung up over the 1200+ point example. It's just an example, it can be changed to any number if any.

Anyway, I think the sub forum should be on an invite basis, with those invited being able to invite others they deem 1337 enough.
amatoer
Profile Joined January 2008
Germany212 Posts
September 22 2010 15:51 GMT
#563
oh its 1200 points ingame!
i thought of 1.2k posts here on tl.net. even though it wouldnt be perfect because noobish spammer are favored by this system whereas lurker who have quite some skill and knowledge, are disadvantaged.
another good thing about 1.2k (or maybe some other number) posts is, that its perhaps easier to add to the (sub)forum.
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
September 22 2010 15:52 GMT
#564
If this was implemented, there would be a HUGE responsibility on the +1200 or whatever Diamond players to make legitimate, well mannered, well written intelligent posts. Even they can get into some bullshit that doesn't contribute. Idra and Incontrol aren't my ideas of the best posters on teamliquid. It would have to be a forum where a certain level of professionalism is maintained to actually be beneficial to readers.
"If you can chill..........then chill."
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 22 2010 15:53 GMT
#565
I would like a public read only one for "progamers", yes, but they better be real damn high level and internationally recognized, not just some kid who mass games all day with a shitty winrate that is above to knock off enough games to get to 1200.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Hizzo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States193 Posts
September 22 2010 16:00 GMT
#566
Read only pro subforum. Give everyone inherit permissions to view it but only certain recognized players permissions to post.

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Sirot
Profile Joined March 2010
48 Posts
September 22 2010 16:09 GMT
#567
This is an insane idea. You would segregate the community and just exaggerate the elitist perception that people have of TL.net.

Though, I would like a way to have more intelligent discussions in the forums, this is not the way to do it. Hell, I wouldn't trust the community even to properly consider the ramifications that something this will do.

At best, I would like "high level" players or responsible members of the community given some kind of icon beside their name to indicate that they know what the hell they are talking about.
Slix36
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom145 Posts
September 22 2010 16:09 GMT
#568
definately a read only pro only subforum. i'm no diamond but i'd like the option to see decent discussion by pro level posters only, will basically filter out all the crap, you could say washing it all off the diamonds xD
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
September 22 2010 16:11 GMT
#569
On September 22 2010 23:15 me_viet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 22:47 Hawk wrote:
On September 22 2010 13:59 Mecha71 wrote:
On September 22 2010 06:06 Hawk wrote:
I was originally for the pro forum or whatever, but it would be such a very small community, and that would prevent the very rare new poster/low ranking guy who has a valid point from contributing. I think those people are few and far between, but you should at least have the opportunity to prove that you aren't an idiot...


I'm sure there would still be an open normal strategy forum new people can post in. More people would quickly realize how terrible and misleading newbie information can be and why a pro forum is needed. If someone has worthwhile information worth posting, then they should have a decent point ranking and have access already.

There will always be bads that wont deserve to make the cut for the Pro forum, but then at least the bads wont outnumber the decent pros 10:1 like how its happening right now in the SC2 Strat forum.

The only people left that would decline this idea are bads who think they are hot shit when their not and are terrified their coveted 1000pt diamond rank wont vouch for anything anymore.

More refined legit strategy posts= more improvement from lower ranked players, instead of reading misleading information from a terribad that's gotten into diamond cheesing/only allining and posting trash info on the forums about it.


Well no one is checking the validity of those poll responses

Even if you do it by an arbitrary diamond number, you are bound to get morons. For example:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154742#3

On September 21 2010 23:22 storm44 wrote:
im in diamond and I didn't know that scv's could attack lol


Even beyond that, suppose you pick an arbitrary number. It would have to be high 1000, 1200+ or so, to really cut out idiots. But at the same time, there are a lot of good people who understand the game that don't have the time to play to get up to that level (1200 is as much about skill as it is about grinding away). Not everyone has time for 9hours of play a day anymore.





I thought this too, but think about how small the pro strat forum would be (and yes, there would obviously be the normal one too). But think how small of a pool it is. Diamond is about 6-7% of the population on every server. Of that, high diamond (like 1000+) is a fraction of that number. And not every one of those people posts on TL, so cut that number some more.

That's the reason why I'd prefer super nazi moderation over a separate forum. There would only be so many posts.


I actually remember a Poll somewhere that finished with something like half of TL being in diamond.. can't remember, but someone can always hold a Poll again.

I'm for this idea. Would reduce the time it takes me to wade through all the bronzies posts etc to get to the 'good stuff'.

Honestly the cut-off should be even higher.. I remember seeing 2 posts on b.net forums one posting that Thors should have an aoe slow ability to catch muta...and another one posting that banelings should be nerfed because "Zerg just a-moves them thus requiring no micro". I was like "lol haha bronze leaguer" - went and looked it up on sc2ranks. They were both ~800 diamond players -_____-"

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Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
September 22 2010 16:13 GMT
#570
I would LOVE to see some people who are against this who are higher level players.

Please indulge me
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Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
September 22 2010 16:18 GMT
#571
I was listening to the State of the Game podcast last night, and I really enjoyed where Day9 and Artosis were just going back and forth on the efficacy of drops vs nydus, and what to do when you get your ramp pylon-blocked. I think more of this kind of talk should be encouraged, but maybe not necessarily based on rating.

Top 100 in your region maybe? 200? Maybe just those in TLPD that are considered to be progamers? I know Day9 and the rest joke about how easy it is to get to 1200 with 4 warp gate rushes.
CagedMind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States506 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 16:26:56
September 22 2010 16:22 GMT
#572
Here's how you verify. A tlbot on bnet. msg the bot something and it versifies who you are.

There's 75% of people who want a subforum although idea of not being able to read it is ridiculous idea.

Best way to do is having a skill lvl of "good" players. Even people hundreds of points under can take games off the top. They still have knowledge and are more able converse about the game. You open up talk a lot by having a depth of people who can play well. Maybe something like top 2k global?

I don't think only pros is a good idea cause how many are we talking about that would post? They will post even less cause there's no threads. Best way to do is have it being good players.

Interesting option is to allow all people to post in subforum still but you have to expand a window to read them. It makes it more cut and dry where your getting your info from and your not bogged down by bad posts. Good players can go on talking without seeing those posts if they want and not disturb discussion.
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DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
September 22 2010 16:27 GMT
#573
High rating =/= pro gamer.
It's too easy to get a high rating on strategies such as 4 gate with little knowledge or understanding of 70% of the game.
I would not mind a forum with read for all and wright limited to 'invite only', but rating based is just not the right way to go about it.
Start with a hand picked group of high end players and allow them to give other players writing rights. Mods could revoke those rights if they feel someone without sufficient understanding of the game gets invited.
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Orion_2kTC
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
September 22 2010 16:57 GMT
#574
I wonder how many other silver scrubs like me just sit there and watch instead of posting. Sure I post, but I try to make my question as straight forward and less whiny as possible.

More people need to just shut up and watch/read and they'll be surprised with how much better they'll become.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
September 22 2010 17:03 GMT
#575
I think is a really good idea, however everyone should be allowed to view the threads. But only specific people should be allowed to post. I'm kind of tired of looking through BO threads only to find it loaded with people who have no idea how to play game. It's hard to separate the shit from the gold to put it bluntly.
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Purpose2
Profile Joined August 2010
England187 Posts
September 22 2010 17:27 GMT
#576
I never really post here due to my knowledge that I am terrible (1000 platinum). But the constant spam of stupid shit from people who I'd assume think they're gods (and currently sitting in Silver or something)

If such a forum does get created, I would prefer that it is possible that us midlevel players (such as myself) are still able to view, and potentially have the chance to learn from the discussion at hand.
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Zeroes
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1102 Posts
September 22 2010 17:31 GMT
#577
I think the karma system vs this system should get its own thread
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wollhandkrabbe
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany97 Posts
September 22 2010 17:36 GMT
#578
Wannabe-progamers 2009: Man I wish SC was more popular!

Wannabe-progamers 2010: Man SC is way too popular!


I think this idea is ridiculous and completely defies what a web community is about. If you read stuff you think is worthless and get worked up about it the problem is etirely yours IMO.


Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
September 22 2010 17:38 GMT
#579
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KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
September 22 2010 17:45 GMT
#580
alright so now that i have had a little time to think about this, i think it might be a good idea (if it could even be implemented) however the level base would have to grow every week or 2. for instance this week 1200, next week 1250, and so on. there are 1200 level players that i know would get smashed by 1500+, but made it that high because they are really good at one strat such as 4 gate, 5 rax reaper, etc.
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