• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:37
CET 03:37
KST 11:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !9Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Micro Lags When Playing SC2? ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1142 users

How to practice with privacy - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 05:54:10
September 17 2010 05:53 GMT
#121
On September 16 2010 15:10 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 13:32 SichuanPanda wrote:
Great idea, good work. I got a question though, in regards to maps, we all know Blizzard's maps suck for high level play, so why are none of the leagues/tourneys starting to put custom ones out akin to KeSPA maps.

I'd like to see it happen too, but who would be in charge of that? We don't have an SC2 version of ICCup or Proleague to hand out maps they deem "good". Some entity has to arise and be approved of to hand out map ultimatums, preferably one with better taste than Blizzard.

And yes, the praise of Teddyman should be endless.

Actually some tournaments HAVE used some of the non ladder Blizzard maps, such as Crossfire, Jungle Basin, and Agria Valley. Given, MLG, ESL, and GSL haven't.
Wolfpox
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada164 Posts
September 17 2010 12:05 GMT
#122
On September 16 2010 10:03 Nightfall.589 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 09:19 Wolfpox wrote:
Somebody's going to get banned for modifying the game files.

I didn't know that you can get banned for playing custom maps...


I misunderstood the original post. I thought he was talking about modifying files to break the game score or whatever
[B] Butigroove wrote:[/B] Blizzard is double expanding to the natural gold base of our poor little nerd hearts.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 22:46:11
September 17 2010 22:45 GMT
#123
On September 17 2010 14:53 Tump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 15:10 urashimakt wrote:
On September 16 2010 13:32 SichuanPanda wrote:
Great idea, good work. I got a question though, in regards to maps, we all know Blizzard's maps suck for high level play, so why are none of the leagues/tourneys starting to put custom ones out akin to KeSPA maps.

I'd like to see it happen too, but who would be in charge of that? We don't have an SC2 version of ICCup or Proleague to hand out maps they deem "good". Some entity has to arise and be approved of to hand out map ultimatums, preferably one with better taste than Blizzard.

And yes, the praise of Teddyman should be endless.

Actually some tournaments HAVE used some of the non ladder Blizzard maps, such as Crossfire, Jungle Basin, and Agria Valley. Given, MLG, ESL, and GSL haven't.

I'm sure that's true, but it's also not what was being discussed! Individual tourneys can do whatever they want with a map pool and that's perfectly fine. We were on the topic of a map-making organization distributing widely to tournaments, a la KeSPA.
Who dat ninja?
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
September 17 2010 22:51 GMT
#124
This is a pretty awesome fix since a lot of players practice on customs a lot. Maybe Blizzard can include a checkbox in your profile or something about autohiding BO's on your match list but until then this is awesome.
EriktheGuy
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada132 Posts
September 17 2010 23:15 GMT
#125
Even better idea, switch accounts with your teammates when laddering and practicing. When your enemies try to counter your builds, they will be countering the wrong builds and will be at a significant disadvantage.
In mathematics you don't understand things, you just get used to them. -Neumann
TheEpicLolz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada72 Posts
September 17 2010 23:43 GMT
#126
You are amazing dude. Seriously, amazing. GJ On this. I think this will really help the pros there, although there isn't much use of it for the regular laddering people.
Lol :D
Ivanero
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain140 Posts
September 18 2010 04:13 GMT
#127
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...
=)
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
September 18 2010 04:16 GMT
#128
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...

It is literally illegal to film and analyze an NFL team's practice sessions. Anyone can watch their previous performances, just like you can watch anyone's VOD or tournament replay, but watching their private practice shouldn't be allowed. Poor analogy.
Who dat ninja?
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
September 18 2010 04:19 GMT
#129
On September 18 2010 13:16 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...

It is literally illegal to film and analyze an NFL team's practice sessions. Anyone can watch their previous performances, just like you can watch anyone's VOD or tournament replay, but watching their private practice shouldn't be allowed. Poor analogy.

Actually his analogy was correct, but it just proves the opposite argument of his lolol
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
September 18 2010 04:19 GMT
#130
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...


Problem with that analogy is that there are way too many variables in that compared to SC2. You also have those damn refs ha ha. There are tendencies in sports, but the fact that it's team sports (where they actually have film and analyze, also both teams do it knowingly, not a secret), it's just hard to commit against a specific game plan. Yeah, you'll know what they do, but the skill of each individual player matters, + random breakout plays from one player. I can see your point, but it's just not close enough.

Hiding as dirty? I can agree with that...but hey, the game is young...
(╯`Д´)╯︵ ┻━┻ High Five! _o /\ o_
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
September 18 2010 04:24 GMT
#131
On September 18 2010 13:19 EliteAzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...


Problem with that analogy is that there are way too many variables in that compared to SC2. You also have those damn refs ha ha. There are tendencies in sports, but the fact that it's team sports (where they actually have film and analyze, also both teams do it knowingly, not a secret), it's just hard to commit against a specific game plan. Yeah, you'll know what they do, but the skill of each individual player matters, + random breakout plays from one player. I can see your point, but it's just not close enough.

Hiding as dirty? I can agree with that...but hey, the game is young...


How is it dirty? You might as well argue that picking terran is dirty.
Too Busy to Troll!
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
September 18 2010 04:27 GMT
#132
On September 18 2010 13:24 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 13:19 EliteAzn wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...


Problem with that analogy is that there are way too many variables in that compared to SC2. You also have those damn refs ha ha. There are tendencies in sports, but the fact that it's team sports (where they actually have film and analyze, also both teams do it knowingly, not a secret), it's just hard to commit against a specific game plan. Yeah, you'll know what they do, but the skill of each individual player matters, + random breakout plays from one player. I can see your point, but it's just not close enough.

Hiding as dirty? I can agree with that...but hey, the game is young...


How is it dirty? You might as well argue that picking terran is dirty.

I'm not sure where the Terran part comes in, but yeah, most people would tell you that privacy is a pretty cool idea.

Well, maybe not if they work for a government.
Who dat ninja?
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 04:32:38
September 18 2010 04:30 GMT
#133
On September 18 2010 13:27 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 13:24 Half wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:19 EliteAzn wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...


Problem with that analogy is that there are way too many variables in that compared to SC2. You also have those damn refs ha ha. There are tendencies in sports, but the fact that it's team sports (where they actually have film and analyze, also both teams do it knowingly, not a secret), it's just hard to commit against a specific game plan. Yeah, you'll know what they do, but the skill of each individual player matters, + random breakout plays from one player. I can see your point, but it's just not close enough.

Hiding as dirty? I can agree with that...but hey, the game is young...


How is it dirty? You might as well argue that picking terran is dirty.

I'm not sure where the Terran part comes in, but yeah, most people would tell you that privacy is a pretty cool idea.

Well, maybe not if they work for a government.


The thing is, the player is going out of his/her way to hide his/her data...that's the only shady part about it.
It's just something Blizzard didn't think about when releasing the game (the fact that this data is open to everyone)

@half, Plus, i'm not THAT stupid to start mentioning Terran when there is no relationship to it whatsoever, that was just random of you.
(╯`Д´)╯︵ ┻━┻ High Five! _o /\ o_
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
September 18 2010 04:36 GMT
#134
On September 18 2010 13:30 EliteAzn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 13:27 urashimakt wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:24 Half wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:19 EliteAzn wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...


Problem with that analogy is that there are way too many variables in that compared to SC2. You also have those damn refs ha ha. There are tendencies in sports, but the fact that it's team sports (where they actually have film and analyze, also both teams do it knowingly, not a secret), it's just hard to commit against a specific game plan. Yeah, you'll know what they do, but the skill of each individual player matters, + random breakout plays from one player. I can see your point, but it's just not close enough.

Hiding as dirty? I can agree with that...but hey, the game is young...


How is it dirty? You might as well argue that picking terran is dirty.

I'm not sure where the Terran part comes in, but yeah, most people would tell you that privacy is a pretty cool idea.

Well, maybe not if they work for a government.


The thing is, the player is going out of his/her way to hide his/her data...that's the only shady part about it.
It's just something Blizzard didn't think about when releasing the game (the fact that this data is open to everyone)

@half, Plus, i'm not THAT stupid to start mentioning Terran when there is no relationship to it whatsoever, that was just random of you.

If you are of the opinion that they shouldn't have to go out of their way to hide their practice sessions, it's probably easier to believe that it's no big deal that they do go out of their way. Everyone looks at everything differently, though.
Who dat ninja?
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 04:39:45
September 18 2010 04:37 GMT
#135
On September 18 2010 13:36 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2010 13:30 EliteAzn wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:27 urashimakt wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:24 Half wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:19 EliteAzn wrote:
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...


Problem with that analogy is that there are way too many variables in that compared to SC2. You also have those damn refs ha ha. There are tendencies in sports, but the fact that it's team sports (where they actually have film and analyze, also both teams do it knowingly, not a secret), it's just hard to commit against a specific game plan. Yeah, you'll know what they do, but the skill of each individual player matters, + random breakout plays from one player. I can see your point, but it's just not close enough.

Hiding as dirty? I can agree with that...but hey, the game is young...


How is it dirty? You might as well argue that picking terran is dirty.

I'm not sure where the Terran part comes in, but yeah, most people would tell you that privacy is a pretty cool idea.

Well, maybe not if they work for a government.


The thing is, the player is going out of his/her way to hide his/her data...that's the only shady part about it.
It's just something Blizzard didn't think about when releasing the game (the fact that this data is open to everyone)

@half, Plus, i'm not THAT stupid to start mentioning Terran when there is no relationship to it whatsoever, that was just random of you.

If you are of the opinion that they shouldn't have to go out of their way to hide their practice sessions, it's probably easier to believe that it's no big deal that they do go out of their way. Everyone looks at everything differently, though.


Funny thing is that it's already dirty enough for the opponent to look at private practices lol.

like for me on the dirty scale (1 is dust, 10 is full blow mud), hiding data is like 1.5, while researching other's private practices is like 9...Not saying it's super dirty, but I can agree that it can be looked at as dirty...really dirty? not really
(╯`Д´)╯︵ ┻━┻ High Five! _o /\ o_
silentsaint
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany540 Posts
September 18 2010 05:37 GMT
#136
Nice find :-) I hope a lot of players read this thread ^^
It really tied the room together.
Lurker87
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States172 Posts
September 18 2010 15:51 GMT
#137
Absolutely awesome idea. Hopefully this BO sniffing bs will see a decrease. I always found prolevel SC1 to be reminiscent of chess, You learn what the other's favored openings in certain situations are, as well as their particular style of play in different parts of the game. However, it is a bit hard to come across all the practice games of a chess player, so players, in anticipation of their rivals, would just go through tournament level games, and other readily accessible games. I found that to be a perfect balance. It bred quite a bit of mindgames in SC1, with players countering the counter that they expect in the finals, and the like. But all this BO finding crap... ugh, just makes my stomach hurt.
/rant


Thank you, OP.
Cybren
Profile Joined February 2010
United States206 Posts
September 18 2010 16:03 GMT
#138
Cool post

wasn't it also possible to "hide" your builds with yabot and resetting?
The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
September 19 2010 10:01 GMT
#139
On September 18 2010 13:13 Ivanero wrote:
Football teams look other team's matches to analize their play, and that's usual.

I think using this kind of "hider" is kinda dirty...


Lol Pats fans...
jpaugh78
Profile Joined May 2010
United States179 Posts
September 19 2010 10:46 GMT
#140
On September 19 2010 01:03 Cybren wrote:
Cool post

wasn't it also possible to "hide" your builds with yabot and resetting?

You could just use Yabot in offline mode to accomplish this as well.

The new version that allows online play is nice, but it's just way too buggy for me. It tends to freeze on me a lot.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
19:00
WWG Amateur Showdown
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 46
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 17789
Hyuk 734
Shuttle 264
Larva 103
NaDa 61
Mong 16
Hm[arnc] 15
Dota 2
monkeys_forever585
febbydoto39
Counter-Strike
summit1g12058
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox253
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor177
Other Games
JimRising 402
PiGStarcraft149
Mew2King100
Trikslyr64
ViBE58
kaitlyn26
PiLiPiLi10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1123
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22592
League of Legends
• Doublelift4306
Other Games
• Scarra360
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 23m
Ladder Legends
14h 23m
BSL 21
17h 23m
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Wardi Open
1d 9h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 14h
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.