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On September 10 2010 07:09 JWD wrote:
The number one thing I'd like to see out of Artosis and Tasteless is for them to treat this more like a job and less like a hobby. By that I mean I'd like to see that they prepared for the matches before casting them. Many times they seem not to know anything about the players involved. Can we get some background, anecdotes, anything? This is the sort of stuff that is crucial to developing a young game — we need to know the players to root for them!
Overall I think Artosis and Tasteless make a good combo though. I'd love to see Artosis go as in-depth on strategy as he did in his BW commentaries.
I think JW banged it right over the head.
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All you guys saying they should threat it like a job are just envy of their position. Seriously...
This is a game. We want to be entertained and they have done a great jobe entertaining us. I at least laugh a lot while watching the games.
Artosis has been bringing a lot of inside about the players. At least the ones that are in clans and the ones he has been playing with and ofc they are the ones qualifying so far...
Tasteless was rusty on the first days. But he has been improving a lot so far.
I agree with most of you guys saying that maybe Day9 is better than Tasteless. He is a funny guy, he has his daily shows and he knows about the game. But saying that HD and Husky are better than them is just bs.
You all should remember that Day9 is his younger brother, and a lot of his inspiration to do what he does these days came from Tasteless a long time ago.
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On September 10 2010 21:09 VarmVaffel wrote:lol when the hell did this happen? :p
right before artosis' games, i believe
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On September 10 2010 21:18 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 07:09 JWD wrote:
The number one thing I'd like to see out of Artosis and Tasteless is for them to treat this more like a job and less like a hobby. By that I mean I'd like to see that they prepared for the matches before casting them. Many times they seem not to know anything about the players involved. Can we get some background, anecdotes, anything? This is the sort of stuff that is crucial to developing a young game — we need to know the players to root for them!
Overall I think Artosis and Tasteless make a good combo though. I'd love to see Artosis go as in-depth on strategy as he did in his BW commentaries. I think JW banged it right over the head.
I just read that post, and was about to post pretty much that exact same thing!
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On September 10 2010 21:12 e4e5nf3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 10:43 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On September 10 2010 10:41 Aylear wrote:
The commentators of the biggest eSports event in the world don't even know the game's hotkeys.
No, I won't give them fucking time. There's no excuse for it. That's GOM's fault. There is no reason in hell during a $600k or w/e tournament that you do not have a dedicated English observer. Just absolutely no excuse. What is the Korean setup? I see three people at the booth, is one of them the dedicated observer?
I believe it is a fourth guy, who is only concentrating on observing and does not have to talk.
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On September 10 2010 21:35 torm3ntin wrote:
All you guys saying they should threat it like a job are just envy of their position. Seriously...
This is a game. We want to be entertained and they have done a great jobe entertaining us. I at least laugh a lot while watching the games.
Basketball is just a game as well. So is football. The commentators for those two games still take their jobs seriously. Btw their entertainment is subjective, some like it some don't. Their game commentating is sub par. Thats the problem!
You all should remember that Day9 is his younger brother, and a lot of his inspiration to do what he does these days came from Tasteless a long time ago.
Seriously dude? :D What the hell does that have to do with anything?  So because day9 can thank his brother for being who is today, we should forgive tastless for not doing his job correctly? Cmon!
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i'm loving tastosis as usual, i'm just a big fan of their commentating but i'd like to see less advertising in general (handsomenerd, EG, MYM) and a little more insight about the players, how they do in ladder, some stats, experiences vs them, etc.
anyway keep the good work, your analysis is really nice and you still keep the stream fun, much love <3
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I'd also be interested to see how the commentating went if they just set it to auto follow the korean observer's camera for the game so that they could focus on casting
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Tasteless and Artosis do great commentary because they know what they are talking about it.
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On September 10 2010 17:23 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
If you really think they are supposed to do deep researches that they most likely don't get payed for as commentators then stop right there, I just can't share your opinion.
Also 90% of their audience couldn't care less about the fact where some unknown player was born, really.
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In fact, they often gave information that interested me.
Like that one 2000+ points player. I'm interested in that, as it concerns SC2. But whatever, everyones a critic nowadays ;P
They are unknown players becuse no one knows anything about them... Learning more about them makes them go from "random player XXX" to "Name player"
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On September 10 2010 18:07 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 17:54 Nilaus wrote:On September 10 2010 08:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
As for game knowledge, I find it funny hearing random people I've never heard of commenting on commentators' game knowledge. What do they know? Take any sport and you will see that there are fans, who know a lot more about the theory and players than they "pros". i doubt thats true for many sports but its certainly not true for sc/sc2. for every thousand people who claim to have a great handle on the strategy/thinking portion of the game, and they just happen to suck because they cant practice enough to execute their brilliance, theres maybe one who actually understands as much as he thinks he does.
Funny that this comes from the man that cant understand any other buildorder than "muttas to harrass and then ultras to throw at the oponent no matter what he gets" You are boring to watch, now go learn to play like a pro and stop trolling this thread.
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On September 10 2010 23:17 SuperGnu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 18:07 IdrA wrote:On September 10 2010 17:54 Nilaus wrote:On September 10 2010 08:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
As for game knowledge, I find it funny hearing random people I've never heard of commenting on commentators' game knowledge. What do they know? Take any sport and you will see that there are fans, who know a lot more about the theory and players than they "pros". i doubt thats true for many sports but its certainly not true for sc/sc2. for every thousand people who claim to have a great handle on the strategy/thinking portion of the game, and they just happen to suck because they cant practice enough to execute their brilliance, theres maybe one who actually understands as much as he thinks he does. Funny that this comes from the man that cant understand any other buildorder than "muttas to harrass and then ultras to throw at the oponent no matter what he gets" You are boring to watch, now go learn to play like a pro and stop trolling this thread.
You are boring to read, go learn to post and stop trolling this thread. The fact that you would post something as absurd as this boggles my mind.
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On September 10 2010 23:17 SuperGnu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 18:07 IdrA wrote:On September 10 2010 17:54 Nilaus wrote:On September 10 2010 08:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
As for game knowledge, I find it funny hearing random people I've never heard of commenting on commentators' game knowledge. What do they know? Take any sport and you will see that there are fans, who know a lot more about the theory and players than they "pros". i doubt thats true for many sports but its certainly not true for sc/sc2. for every thousand people who claim to have a great handle on the strategy/thinking portion of the game, and they just happen to suck because they cant practice enough to execute their brilliance, theres maybe one who actually understands as much as he thinks he does. Funny that this comes from the man that cant understand any other buildorder than "muttas to harrass and then ultras to throw at the oponent no matter what he gets" You are boring to watch, now go learn to play like a pro and stop trolling this thread.
your a big idiot and pretty much proved his point
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Really enjoyed today's commentary, especially the insider info on TLO's builds.
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On September 10 2010 23:17 SuperGnu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 18:07 IdrA wrote:On September 10 2010 17:54 Nilaus wrote:On September 10 2010 08:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
As for game knowledge, I find it funny hearing random people I've never heard of commenting on commentators' game knowledge. What do they know? Take any sport and you will see that there are fans, who know a lot more about the theory and players than they "pros". i doubt thats true for many sports but its certainly not true for sc/sc2. for every thousand people who claim to have a great handle on the strategy/thinking portion of the game, and they just happen to suck because they cant practice enough to execute their brilliance, theres maybe one who actually understands as much as he thinks he does. Funny that this comes from the man that cant understand any other buildorder than "muttas to harrass and then ultras to throw at the oponent no matter what he gets" You are boring to watch, now go learn to play like a pro and stop trolling this thread.
go back to playing in bronze league
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Was really good today, seems like are putting effort in improving. Artosos needs to stop bad mannering people by wishing them back luck. How bad would it look if the Korean commentators rooted against all none Koreans?
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The one major thing I can think of right now is that Tasteless needs to keep the production tab open by default. The units tab is only useful before and after a critical battle, and even then it's only useful when the commentators are actively talking about it, because 1) most viewers probably won't pay too much attention to it if it just sits there 2) us SQ stream viewers can't actually make out the numbers, at least not if we're laying on the couch chilling. After the focus on the contents of the tab is done you should switch back to production, which is something you can leave on without really talking about it because it helps the more alert viewers follow what's actually happening beyond the interesting stuff that the camera is pointed at. It'll also make you seem very smart when you go into the guys base and point out the tech structure that was just started, without blindly looking for all that stuff throughout the game.
APM tab for entertainment and income tab to illustrate your point are always nice too, but once again useless if you aren't talking about them.
Anyway, easily the best casting combo and I think people who think otherwise are missing the point of these casts. Day9 is cool and all but do I really want to be taught how to play for 4 hours 5 days a week when all I'm looking for is players better than I? I'd much rather be entertained than getting schooled. That is one of the best things about pro SCBW, you're watching players who are so much better than you you'll never get close to any of them, you're basically watching gods, so all imba discussion and racehate and any learning process gained is invalid. You can happily be driven into a frenzy by Koreans yelling, and be entertained.
(And fuck husky/hd, they're not entertaining OR educational. Just annoying.)
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On September 10 2010 23:23 EleanorRIgby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 23:17 SuperGnu wrote:On September 10 2010 18:07 IdrA wrote:On September 10 2010 17:54 Nilaus wrote:On September 10 2010 08:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
As for game knowledge, I find it funny hearing random people I've never heard of commenting on commentators' game knowledge. What do they know? Take any sport and you will see that there are fans, who know a lot more about the theory and players than they "pros". i doubt thats true for many sports but its certainly not true for sc/sc2. for every thousand people who claim to have a great handle on the strategy/thinking portion of the game, and they just happen to suck because they cant practice enough to execute their brilliance, theres maybe one who actually understands as much as he thinks he does. Funny that this comes from the man that cant understand any other buildorder than "muttas to harrass and then ultras to throw at the oponent no matter what he gets" You are boring to watch, now go learn to play like a pro and stop trolling this thread. your a big idiot and pretty much proved his point
Butthurt fanboi?
User was warned for this post
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On September 10 2010 23:28 hazz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2010 23:17 SuperGnu wrote:On September 10 2010 18:07 IdrA wrote:On September 10 2010 17:54 Nilaus wrote:On September 10 2010 08:27 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
As for game knowledge, I find it funny hearing random people I've never heard of commenting on commentators' game knowledge. What do they know? Take any sport and you will see that there are fans, who know a lot more about the theory and players than they "pros". i doubt thats true for many sports but its certainly not true for sc/sc2. for every thousand people who claim to have a great handle on the strategy/thinking portion of the game, and they just happen to suck because they cant practice enough to execute their brilliance, theres maybe one who actually understands as much as he thinks he does. Funny that this comes from the man that cant understand any other buildorder than "muttas to harrass and then ultras to throw at the oponent no matter what he gets" You are boring to watch, now go learn to play like a pro and stop trolling this thread. go back to playing in bronze league
I would if i where in the bronze division, im not however.
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On September 10 2010 06:56 Nihilnovi wrote:
I actually turn the sound off because the quality of information and the manner in which it is relayed from both artosis and tasteless is extremely lackluster and just annoyed me. I can't see either having any future in casting.
The comments are usually really bad, they both talk at the same time constantly, too much of what they say is not related to the game itself but rather bad insider jokes between them which just made me go "wtf?"
The camera is horrible, especially when they zoom. The quality of the stream is horrible enough without zooming in on pixels as well as it's really bad on the eyes and confusing. The constant jumping around the map is not very viewer friendly either, and MANY MANY times they jump off to some random spot while I'm watching the minimap seeing two armies going at it while they go something like;
"Isn't that right about that one thing that one time at that one place with you and/or me and X random player"
"Sure is dude, sure is"
"Haha, yeah, it is"
"Haha yeah"
Overall, can't compare them to day9, hd and husky at mlg and iem. The sheer difference in quality of what's being said is just astounding. I don't know how I can be specific, it would be like telling someone directions to a building that we're both standing in front of.
They're better than HD/Husky by far. Day[9], maybe not, but their commentary does give a lot of insight into the current state of each matchup, beside all the screwy jokes
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