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Rawenkeke
Norway350 Posts
On September 10 2010 18:27 sage_francis wrote: I dont think any newbie can qualify in ro64 of GSL. By the way, jinro and nazgul should appreciate this ^^ Typical Idra's garbage ^^ derp. Haters gonna hate. They're doing ok and will proceed to do better. | ||
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
On September 10 2010 11:33 Tabbris wrote: Only rekrul can say this and not get banned lol. But i agree with rekrul  .Only Rekrul can say, "big overgrown peach" and not get banned? Lol, that's like the tamest thing I've ever seen Rekrul say to someone who's acting like a man-child. | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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Corr
Denmark796 Posts
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Lighioana
Norway466 Posts
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Snowfield
1289 Posts
On September 10 2010 19:57 WiljushkA wrote: lol at the hilariously rough time people are giving to tasteless. hes doing fine imo, as good as he ever did. the only thing he could improve on is managing the resource/units/production tabs a bit better. whats really funny is so many of the complainers are citing HD and husky as a better duo, which is to me incredible cause i cant stand listening to those guys for more than 5 minutes. irritating over the top screaming, and absolutely no game knowledge. This is legitimate constructive criticism. It's how people get better at what they do. | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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rozina
Slovenia72 Posts
Day9 atm is definitely the best commentator out there. He has the sauce and most importantly he has the game knowledge. Giving so much inside on the games that are going on. its just amazing. Even total noobs can follow the players' strategies and understand what is going on. Cant say the same about tastless and artossis. Its the other way around here, even platinum players notice that they missed someting importatnt. And about them being funny. Sense of humor is very subjective. That is why I believe there should not be so much emphasis on being funny, it should be on the game and what is going on. Sure jokes are great! But they should be there to complement the commentating, not be the center of attention. I like day9 in that regard. He focuses primely on the game adding jokes just to fill the holes. My tip for the commentators is to watch some professionals cast in regular sport. Or if you want to limit yourself to SC2 watch day9. He knows what he is doing when commentating. Ps: so much talk about the hotkeys. Sure they help but thats not really the biggest problem imo. Its the lack of professionalism. Pps: I saw something about them not being played, is that true? If it is, then I can understand the low quality casting, I do not understand gom.tv logic though. If they are getting played they need to step up the game! | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
Tastosis is a fantastic duo | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On September 10 2010 07:58 Manifesto7 wrote: This isn't anything new. It was the same deal in BW when Tasteless didn't know the names of the players during the GSI and other events. Those who said he are treating it like a hobby are 100% correct. He don't practice his commentating, he doesn't practice his observing, and he treats the cast like they are chatting on vent and battle.net. 60 of the 64 gamers in this tournament are Koreans, and most of them are completely unknown to even the die hard fans. It is the commentators job to provide information that we don't have, but it is painfully obvious that neither has taken the time to supplement their knowledge beyond name recognition. Even watching replays of the players and taking a few notes on tendencies would raise the quality of the cast immeasurably. Talking to the players beforehand would help too. Get a translator. But again, this is nothing new. Tasteless has been coasting on his reputation for years and benefits from being the biggest (and only) name in Korea. I have never seen him take concrete steps to actually improve his casting. Which is really too bad really, because his natural charisma makes him great for TV. He just doesn't have anything to back it up with. I agree with you about tasteless, however based on the GSL matches I've watched (certainly not all of them), Artosis has a lot of familiarity with the players -- in many cases having played against them himself. Artosis has the required in-game knowledge just from being a high-level player. I mean, there's no reason why tasteless should cluelessly ask whether the resource counting tab indicates the players' current amount of minerals during a cast. 90% of casual players probably know that shit. | ||
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WiljushkA
Serbia1416 Posts
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Tooheys
Australia4 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
they're soooooo funny, interesting. hardly any dead air. just good. and so passionate! | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On September 10 2010 16:24 Antedelerium wrote: So I have no idea how this discussion got so out of control, but I've tried to read what I can. This started out by a single fan trying to give some feedback to Artosis and Tasteless, but then it turned into some massive flamewar over who the best caster is. In all honesty, I think the two of them are doing a great job of commentating the matches that I have seen. Have you seen John "I think the team that scores the most points will win" Madden commentate a sports game? Commentators are not here to make you learn or make you a better player. They are simply here to make watching the game more enjoyable, plain and simple. Those of you stating that they don't have the 'knowledge' of other casters, try and even do 1/10th of what they have done before you start saying they don't know what they are talking about. Those of you who don't like their inside jokes, just post on the GOM forums in some kind of feedback thread instead of whining about it here. Clearly experienced players have respect for the casters, so why should you question their abilities to cast a high level game? Make your suggestions and move on. For what it's worth, I find the two of them to be entertaining casters that have insightful comments that help me learn through watching while enjoying the game. Not every comment they make teaches me something, but what's so wrong with that? They make the games more fun to watch. IN every NFL game the commentator will typically say something like this: "Last week we saw team x do this, and it really worked out well because of y. This time though I talked to the coach of team Z and they said they prepared by doing xxx." Obv. IMO good commentators are those who makes research and provides analysis that is interesting for most people. | ||
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VarmVaffel
Norway378 Posts
On September 10 2010 20:05 Lighioana wrote: We need more of this lol when the hell did this happen? :p | ||
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Erucious
Norway393 Posts
On September 10 2010 21:04 Hider wrote: It is without doubt IMO the commentators job to analyze the game. And a part of analyzing the game is knowing something about the players. Obv. you cant know a lot about random korean players, but tell me their ranking on the ladder or something like that. And regarding the more famours players, I dont think it would be too much to ask if they watched a couple of replays of them so they knew how they typically played the MU. ladder rank doesnt matter anything... if you are top 1 or top 10 diamond, it can be miles and miles apart in skill level. They do talk a lot about OGS, Werra, Prime clan etc etc. They were talking aout Spunky from OGS and what he did before being coach/manager of OGS when a OGS player was playing. They bring a lot of inside info that us foreigners dont know much about (unless you are *really* reading forums/stuff for hours and hours). | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
On September 10 2010 10:43 iCCup.Diamond wrote: That's GOM's fault. There is no reason in hell during a $600k or w/e tournament that you do not have a dedicated English observer. Just absolutely no excuse. What is the Korean setup? I see three people at the booth, is one of them the dedicated observer? | ||
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
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rozina
Slovenia72 Posts
On September 10 2010 21:10 Erucious wrote: ladder rank doesnt matter anything... if you are top 1 or top 10 diamond, it can be miles and miles apart in skill level. They do talk a lot about OGS, Werra, Prime clan etc etc. They were talking aout Spunky from OGS and what he did before being coach/manager of OGS when a OGS player was playing. They bring a lot of inside info that us foreigners dont know much about (unless you are *really* reading forums/stuff for hours and hours). I think he meant the overall rank, not the division rank. Which does give you some insight of the players skill. | ||
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biskit
Australia355 Posts
Also wishing bad luck to TLO next opponent... derp. I guess that's another joke. They should stop talking if they don't have anything insightful to say. Some of the amateur casters are much better at this, they cast the game without babbling too much nonsense. I would rather see the korean commentators if GOM allows me to. | ||
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