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[Spoilers] Sweet, sweet Terran tears. - Page 8

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ta2
Profile Joined July 2010
125 Posts
August 21 2010 21:16 GMT
#141
Are there some VODs of the ESL somewhere?
Spaceninja
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
August 21 2010 21:17 GMT
#142
On August 22 2010 06:14 TLOBrian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 06:11 3nickma wrote:
Pardon me for asking but what does right-clicking unburrow do?

Maybe it'll enable auto unburrow og auto detonation though it seems a bit advanced.


Right clicking on unburrow sets it to autocast. Enemy units that walk over it will casue the baneling to unburrow then explode.


Really? That works?
Haters Gonna Hate.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
August 21 2010 21:18 GMT
#143
ta2, vods will be up in a bit, check the ESL replay thread in the tournaments section. And regarding the actual topic. Them terran tears be delicious. There are many strategies that work against this style of play, I cannot see blizzard doing anything to this 'trick', as they sat back and did nothing by obnoxious reaper strategies ripped out a week after release.
Proud member of the LGA-1366 Core-i7 4Ghz Club
IPS.Mardow.
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany713 Posts
August 21 2010 21:21 GMT
#144
Who discovered this trick btw? And who called it "the magic box"? o_O
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 21 2010 21:22 GMT
#145
On August 22 2010 03:26 RoyalCheese wrote:
hmm maybe im blind but i haven't seen any terran posts crying for mutalisk nerf on teamliquid

Nor have there been any nerfs to terran. Find it a bit funny tbh that zerg players come here after moaning for a month or two and suddenly ZvT is fine? And even indicate that T are crying? Zerg is a lot stronger than Z players do realize and tbh I think muta usage is just the first step in zerg ownage.

The niche of the zerg is a lot more tactic based, using your units right, while terran is more picking the right unit for the situation/game in question. Hence II believe it just takes the zerg players a bit longer to learn the tricks of the trade for z than terran for t(and tbh t has a lot more... vocal[for lack of better word] players making BOs and 'breakthroughs' in terran tactics, be it due to terran being twice more or because we just got lucky with TLO, Jinro, Maka, tarson, bratok and I could prob go on and on)

With this thread I do hope we can relax on the 'ZvT is imba' threads though.
TLOBrian
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States453 Posts
August 21 2010 21:23 GMT
#146
On August 22 2010 06:21 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Who discovered this trick btw? And who called it "the magic box"? o_O


No clue Mardow lol I think its called the magic box because if you click in the box where the units are they'll clump and take more thor damage?
Steven Bonnell II is the friggin man.
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
August 21 2010 21:23 GMT
#147
we'll just see more turret usage leapfrogging to the base just like sc1
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 21:24:58
August 21 2010 21:24 GMT
#148
On August 22 2010 06:21 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Who discovered this trick btw? And who called it "the magic box"? o_O


Most people are giving credit to freezeframe for it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145719

Note though that freezeframe really only came up with the name for it and posting an official thread about the technique itself. I believe the real credit has to go to D-Rose for being the first to post about the idea with replays.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=143825
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
Spaceninja
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 21:30:32
August 21 2010 21:30 GMT
#149
On August 22 2010 06:24 mufin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 06:21 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Who discovered this trick btw? And who called it "the magic box"? o_O


Most people are giving credit to freezeframe for it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145719

Note though that freezeframe really only came up with the name for it and posting an official thread about the technique itself. I believe the real credit has to go to D-Rose for being the first to post about the idea with replays.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=143825


The term magic box has been around sense before SC2.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Magic_box
Haters Gonna Hate.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
August 21 2010 21:36 GMT
#150
I see lots of mass-ghost-play's coming up - theyrape mutas and r decent against blings... And u can easily switch to ghosts out of the mass-reaper opening...
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 21:38:10
August 21 2010 21:37 GMT
#151
On August 22 2010 06:30 Spaceninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 06:24 mufin wrote:
On August 22 2010 06:21 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Who discovered this trick btw? And who called it "the magic box"? o_O


Most people are giving credit to freezeframe for it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145719

Note though that freezeframe really only came up with the name for it and posting an official thread about the technique itself. I believe the real credit has to go to D-Rose for being the first to post about the idea with replays.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=143825


The term magic box has been around sense before SC2.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Magic_box


I understand that, I'm just referring to who was the first person to connect the dots with the magic box and muta's in SC2 TvZ.

In be4, "SC2 WILL NEVER BE TEH GAME BW WAS!!111!!"
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
August 21 2010 21:37 GMT
#152
why the fuck is everyone on the dick of this mutalisk "trick"

people have been doing this since early phase 2, jesus. it changes nothing. if you didnt know about it you don't even get to have an opinion on the balance of the matchup.

second, its not magic boxes. it's fucking moving your units. magic boxes referred to having units in a specific formation that let them multi cast spells spread out over an area, and what you could to make mutalisks stack.

THIS IS NEITHER

this is the air equivalent of surrounding with lings. move past then attack move. there is no abuse of the engine or any glitches.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
August 21 2010 21:38 GMT
#153
On August 22 2010 06:36 kickinhead wrote:
I see lots of mass-ghost-play's coming up - theyrape mutas and r decent against blings... And u can easily switch to ghosts out of the mass-reaper opening...

Omg that was a joke vs a bad zerg . All you do is make lings and 3 overseers
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
August 21 2010 21:42 GMT
#154
Oh good. All the Z whiners can now shut up after Idra demonstrated how to beat T players in a high level competition.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
August 21 2010 21:42 GMT
#155
Hasn't this "tears" thing already been done before?
I didn't know Terrans cried about Zerg; that's pathetic.

I like this micro "glitch" you can abuse with Mutalisks and I hope they don't fix it for entertainment reasons. Although I like Morrow's style, I'm rooting for IdrA
chekthehek
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
August 21 2010 21:43 GMT
#156
On August 22 2010 03:17 HaGuN wrote:
Brian i am very disappointed, I thought you were above this. ;\ Oh well, when i saw the magic box i was fine with it, just means Zerg finally learned something new rather than throwing lines of units into our lines, a ball of units vs a line. its only what Terran has been doing for months.


LOL QQ

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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 21 2010 21:46 GMT
#157
I thought people said the pros like Idra have tried everything?
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 21:49:21
August 21 2010 21:47 GMT
#158
On August 22 2010 06:38 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 06:36 kickinhead wrote:
I see lots of mass-ghost-play's coming up - theyrape mutas and r decent against blings... And u can easily switch to ghosts out of the mass-reaper opening...

Omg that was a joke vs a bad zerg . All you do is make lings and 3 overseers


Not really... Incorporate them into Mass-marines and don't rely on gimmicky cloaking and they totally rip apart mutas, snipe Blings before they reach the Marines, EMP Infestors etc.

I've been doing this builds several times on Top Diamond-Level (~900 ELO) and it has no Problems dealing with Mutas or Blings and if you adjust the Number of Marauders right, you can pretty much beat any Zerg-Army-composition pretty easily. They are even very good in the Lategame, cuz they snipe Broodlords from a distance and the sniper-round is actually pretty useful against Ultras.

Ghosts are IMHO the most underused Terran-Unit in TvZ although they are IMHO very very strong in that MU and I've seen Top-players like Jinro use them several times...
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
mufin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States616 Posts
August 21 2010 21:48 GMT
#159
On August 22 2010 06:42 Fantistic wrote:
Hasn't this "tears" thing already been done before?
I didn't know Terrans cried about Zerg; that's pathetic.

I like this micro "glitch" you can abuse with Mutalisks and I hope they don't fix it for entertainment reasons. Although I like Morrow's style, I'm rooting for IdrA


so whats your definition of glitch? If moving and then stopping your units is a glitch then god damnit blizzard is going to have to remove the hellion and the reaper... I'm sorry but your not helping the Terran stereotype when posting such idiotic nonsense.
I only make 5 actions per minute. But since I use all my time deliberating and planning, my 5 actions are so brutally devastating that children cry out and grown men weep.
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
August 21 2010 21:50 GMT
#160
who uses thors vs mutas anymore its all about the ghost
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