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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 09 2011 05:26 GMT
#9441
I feel bad, and disgusted by myself right now, cause im really a guy for e-sports..
But damn, this is pretty boring O.o
This sundance guy is like a piece of teflon.. has he said anything interesting, or like midly inconventional?
I guess I'm being naive just hoping to be entertained ^^
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 05:27:42
February 09 2011 05:26 GMT
#9442
Yea i think the whole idea of the 50,000$ prize is the attention it will garner. Top players like Nony would prefer it having more spread out, so overall the better players will end up earning more, deservingly. But ya, I think the problem is that some people in America think they can make a living from playing Starcraft.
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#9443
On February 09 2011 14:26 zizou21 wrote:
Yea i think the whole idea of the 50,000$ prize is the attention it will garner. Players like Nony would prefer it having more spread out, so overall the better players will end up earning more. But ya, I think the problem is that some people in America really think they can make a living from playing Starcraft.


Well they can if they get sponsors lol.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Biigfoot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States159 Posts
February 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#9444
On February 09 2011 14:24 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 14:23 Aquafresh wrote:
On February 09 2011 14:19 rift wrote:
Wasn't Nony's point just that the championship is too cash-heavy compared to the other events? Not sure that Sundance got it.


Yeah he kind of talked past it. Not sure he totally understood what Nony meant.


Seems like sundance doesnt really want to hear other peoples opinions/ideas and just kinda swerves around the comment or questions.

Not quite, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the decisions are irreversible at this point and debating it is pretty much a time waster and won't be able to affect any decisions for a very very long time.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 05:28:22
February 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#9445
On February 09 2011 14:25 DystopiaX wrote:
I think the top heavy thing is because they have a set amount of money for roused and one huge tourney is more profitable and attention getting than several middle sized ones. I could see Koreans going to the championships or something, but they wouldn't bother if it was like 5 15k tourneys.


I think its mainly MLG want to show everyone "Look at our prize pool! Its as big as GSL!". But in truth, the prize pool for the whole year is less than 1/7 of GSL.
I dont think many top koreans will go considering you need to go to a lot of qualifier which will conflict with there gsl commitments.
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
February 09 2011 05:27 GMT
#9446
On February 09 2011 14:24 raf3776 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 14:23 Aquafresh wrote:
On February 09 2011 14:19 rift wrote:
Wasn't Nony's point just that the championship is too cash-heavy compared to the other events? Not sure that Sundance got it.


Yeah he kind of talked past it. Not sure he totally understood what Nony meant.


Seems like sundance doesnt really want to hear other peoples opinions/ideas and just kinda swerves around the comment or questions.


Thats not what I was implying at all. He could just not want to get into the specifics of it. "The sponsors want it" is about as good a justification as your going to get in that situation.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 05:28:35
February 09 2011 05:28 GMT
#9447
On February 09 2011 14:26 zizou21 wrote:
Yea i think the whole idea of the 50,000$ prize is the attention it will garner. Players like Nony would prefer it having more spread out, so overall the better players will end up earning more. But ya, I think the problem is that some people in America really think they can make a living from playing Starcraft.


Yeah this is basically what a progamer does.

But on topic I don't hate Octoshape! Actually I love it because it works flawlessly on my end.

As for the Sundance, I have a bad feeling about him. I may be wrong but in my opinion this guy is just trying to reap what the Starcraft community sowed.
o choro é livre
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#9448
sooo.. they've talked for like an hour about the economics behind MLG... come on.. gimme some extended series plox.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#9449
On February 09 2011 14:26 zizou21 wrote:
Yea i think the whole idea of the 50,000$ prize is the attention it will garner. Players like Nony would prefer it having more spread out, so overall the better players will end up earning more. But ya, I think the problem is that some people in America really think they can make a living from playing Starcraft.

The whole point of this cast is trying to make it to where someone can make a living playing SC. I want to live in a world where passions like these are rewarded. Don't you?
Writer@WriterYamato
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
February 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#9450
On February 09 2011 14:27 godemperor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 14:25 DystopiaX wrote:
I think the top heavy thing is because they have a set amount of money for roused and one huge tourney is more profitable and attention getting than several middle sized ones. I could see Koreans going to the championships or something, but they wouldn't bother if it was like 5 15k tourneys.


I think its mainly MLG want to show everyone "Look at our prize pool! Its as big as GSL!"

Ummmmm no.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
February 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#9451
Based on the comments already, I can't wait to hear this cast.

Sounds heavy.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
February 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#9452
On February 09 2011 14:29 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 14:26 zizou21 wrote:
Yea i think the whole idea of the 50,000$ prize is the attention it will garner. Players like Nony would prefer it having more spread out, so overall the better players will end up earning more. But ya, I think the problem is that some people in America really think they can make a living from playing Starcraft.

The whole point of this cast is trying to make it to where someone can make a living playing SC. I want to live in a world where passions like these are rewarded. Don't you?


Yea and according to Sundance , this is not achieved primarily via prize money. He said that there will be sponsors who want to pay players to promote their products.

Like they will sponsor players to go around saying how they like Dr pepper or doritos. That makes total sense because thats how it works in most sports. Players earn from their contracts not by winning the prize money.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 05:32:23
February 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#9453
The attention getting prizepool will do that.Get popular enough and the money will follow. Don't give them shitloads of money and then hope to get esports popular.
senor_gomez
Profile Joined June 2010
United States162 Posts
February 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#9454
http://store.majorleaguegaming.com/t/categories/mlg-merchandise

Get those shirts!
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
February 09 2011 05:32 GMT
#9455
Having one big tourney is also good for the scene, better to have concentrated attention from outside the videogaming world, then it all spread out across the whole yr.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#9456
On February 09 2011 14:31 Defacer wrote:
Based on the comments already, I can't wait to hear this cast.

Sounds heavy.


It's basically JP asking a 3 word question, and sundance avoiding to answere it for 15 minutes, and none else is talking.. let's see if it gets hot and heavy soon.
Then again it's 06:32 here, so really late for me, and I need something interesting not to zone out.
Preshow was nice though
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Killerkrack
Profile Joined August 2010
664 Posts
February 09 2011 05:33 GMT
#9457
On February 09 2011 14:28 AlBundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 14:26 zizou21 wrote:
Yea i think the whole idea of the 50,000$ prize is the attention it will garner. Players like Nony would prefer it having more spread out, so overall the better players will end up earning more. But ya, I think the problem is that some people in America really think they can make a living from playing Starcraft.


Yeah this is basically what a progamer does.

But on topic I don't hate Octoshape! Actually I love it because it works flawlessly on my end.

As for the Sundance, I have a bad feeling about him. I may be wrong but in my opinion this guy is just trying to reap what the Starcraft community sowed.

False, I've met him multiple times at countless events over the past 7 years and he is definitely not like that. MLG is trying to pick Starcraft 2 up and promote it because the community at MLG was in an uproar for MLG to pick it up and support it. If you can raise enough support for any game MLG will pick it up and try their hardest to help the game grow. They don't just pick whatever popular game (such as SC2) there is at any given time and suck all the money out of it.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 09 2011 05:34 GMT
#9458
On February 09 2011 14:32 senor_gomez wrote:
http://store.majorleaguegaming.com/t/categories/mlg-merchandise

Get those shirts!

No, because if I do that people will associate me with the xbox players who want to be "pro". (not the halo pros, I couldnt care less, the people on XML who buy mlg icons and shit and smacktalk like crazy and think they're really good.
Kakera
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
February 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#9459
They need to come back to MLG DC, the venue they had in Annapolis, the Gaylord hotel place, rocked. I loved that place, also it's 20 mins away >.>
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 05:36:31
February 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#9460
LAN isn't coming until some time after the final expansion is released
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
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