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So NonY is supporting a soft cap, but I have to ask, how does a soft cap encourage expanding? Unless the cap begins at 9 workers (on 8m), then I could understand, but full resource income still happens on just about 3 base. Part of 6m's largest appeal is expanding beyond that point, and the way it spreads one across the map.
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On March 22 2012 12:01 Lyter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 11:47 darkscream wrote:On March 22 2012 08:53 caradoc wrote:On March 22 2012 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Blizzard has never disappointed with an expansion. HotS will be so much better.
But shouldn't we just focus on this article and WoL? HotS so far away.
Anyway, I would also love to hear Barrin on SotG. JP make it happen please. Hell, look at the new WoW expansion, I can't be alone in thinking it was a collective galaxy-wide WTF as that was unveiled. I quit the second I heard pretty much. Fuckin pandas, with 0 value to the actual story or consistancy of what WoW was about. WoW had no fucking asian bullshit. I was in a top 10 raid guild, I actually made IRL money off of the game... that expansion killed my passion. So yes, blizzard does have the potential to disappoint with expansions. Let's hope HOTS goes the opposite way - But I don't think what Barrin is suggesting should/could actually be implemented in WoL. It would force the pros to relearn everything, twice. Now is a time for discussion, experimentation and testing, hopefully some higher level players get involved though because right now all I see is TL forum rats with a few exceptions.. Nobody top tier has really caught wind of it from what I can tell. WoW had a story? Did you even play wc3? I loved the shit out of wc3 lore, and what blizzard did to the warcraft universe with wow made me want to smash my head into the wall until my brain leaked out onto my feet. They just made up random shit and created loopholes in their own lore for content purposes and killed off every damn interesting person in the lore. Draenei for example, they aren't blue, they aren't even damn goats and they especially didn't crash land a spaceship on azeroth.
For the kind of game WoW is, it has AMAZING lore. Its not like they could see in the future and see they would have to stretch it to the point they had too add f.in panda has a race. I would hate the panda too if i was still playing, i actualy quit playing wow bfore burning crusade when they announced paladin and shaman for horde and aliance. It was stupid, they both should have been there for balance purpose from the start but to add them after was retarded. I came back a few month before lich king, it was fun.
But anyway, creating lore for an open ended story, is... SO - DAMN - HARD. Most movie sequel are terrible, imagine doing that like 9 time, you say lore sucks? well shit, what game has better lore on their first expantion, added content, second expand, added content 3rd expand, added content, 4rth expantion, added content.. None. The amount of Lore from wc 3 series is so small compare to what was put in wow. creating smaller story with less scope is so much easier.
Of course some things just dosent make sense but for balance/gamming purpose they are comprise made. i hate the idea of gnome DK, but meh, alright.
I have faith for the expansion, they are not rushing it, thats VERY good, its unlikely that we are going to see it in store before the new year. Honestly the lore in the WoL wasnt on par with sc and bw, but its was ok and the campaign was really fun. sooo, hum this post has little relevance to sc but so BE IT.
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Any confirmation on a Thursday night show from hotel room???
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On March 22 2012 09:45 goswser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:41 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 22 2012 09:38 Kharnage wrote:On March 22 2012 05:59 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 21 2012 20:09 Kharnage wrote:On March 21 2012 19:31 Technique wrote:On March 20 2012 08:00 Kharnage wrote:On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.
Good show so far otherwise.
edit; stephano so funny, need him on as much as possible. I can't think of a more pointless person to have on SOTG than Stephano. Sure, he was funny for a one off interview, but he said nothing of any interest or solidity about anything. Even his comments on the game were vague and / or lies. Sure, he doesn't know any timings and just randomly chooses what to do on the fly. What utter BS. Cause it's hard for you to understand how an actual good and talented rts mind works doesn't make it ''bs'' or ''lies''. See it as a rap battle, you got an idra who writes everything he's gonna say and it's gonna sound nice and do some damage... he will beat all the lesser competition hard. Now you got a stephano who has some premeditated things of course, but he mainly relies on listening to the opponent and flipping his lines, making them hit a lot harder. Rts is no different, the good players like idra have everything pre planned and make some minor adjustments in game here and there, but that's it. The absolute top like an mkp/stephano etc just go with the flow and are constantly adjusting to the situation and looking for chances (mistakes from the opponent, openings in the opponents game plan). Come off it, he will know scout timings, and build 'tells' for all races so he can react properly. He'll have reactions to everything he scouts thought out and worked out with his practice buddies. Yes, he'll decide what to do 'on the fly' in the same way MC does, but if you honestly believe he just 'goes with the flow' and makes shit up you're being naive. He stated the reason he lost to Polt at Assembly Winter previously was that it wasn't a build he knew how to deal with. Polt did the same thing every game and Stephano didn't have an answer because he hadn't practiced for it at all. So if I understand correctly you play SC2? and because Stephano doesn't agree with how you think and play he is obviously good enough to be on sotg. Cause he might talk about something that you disagree with? Your the 1% in this situation and who honestly likes the 1%. He is popular and a hot topic the boy wins everything he touches for the most part. He is the most successful Foreigner to date. Listen and maybe you will learn something because what he does works. That's my whole point. He's not talking about what he does at all. He's deflecting the question. It's pointless having him on the show because he's not interested in helping you understand what he does. Nony tells you things, destiny tells you things, QXC tells you things, stephano says 'oh you know, build stuff'. When stephano says that he has no trouble with anything in ZvP I don't believe him. I could be wrong, but I find it much more likely that he's not going to tell protoss players out there what he's having trouble with because he doesn't want to lose to protoss players. He's not interested in helping anyone who is struggling with PvZ, he's not even interested in helping people with ZvP. He's interested in Stephano winning games. Which is fine, that's what he does, but why would I want to hear him regularly not answer questions? I suggest you watch Live on 3 Stephano talks about how when he watches PvZ replays he honestly doesn't know what Protoss can do and that he feels they need to be buffed. He said that about zvt before too, then he started playing korean terrans.
He didnt he sayd that all Korean Terran plays the same style.
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I remember that Stephano said Zerglings were imbalanced vs T when he went mass ling on EU ladder and beat nearly everyone.
Then he tried the same stuff vs aLive in IPL3 and got smashed,
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On March 22 2012 17:32 Benjamin80 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 09:45 goswser wrote:On March 22 2012 09:41 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 22 2012 09:38 Kharnage wrote:On March 22 2012 05:59 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:On March 21 2012 20:09 Kharnage wrote:On March 21 2012 19:31 Technique wrote:On March 20 2012 08:00 Kharnage wrote:On March 20 2012 02:15 crms wrote:
im late to the party but just started SOTG65, can we for the sake of being anti-ear rape, not have QXC on this show until he has a real mic. Both shows he's been on I'm on the verge of just ragequitting the podcast because the sound rapes the shit out of my ears and brain.
Good show so far otherwise.
edit; stephano so funny, need him on as much as possible. I can't think of a more pointless person to have on SOTG than Stephano. Sure, he was funny for a one off interview, but he said nothing of any interest or solidity about anything. Even his comments on the game were vague and / or lies. Sure, he doesn't know any timings and just randomly chooses what to do on the fly. What utter BS. Cause it's hard for you to understand how an actual good and talented rts mind works doesn't make it ''bs'' or ''lies''. See it as a rap battle, you got an idra who writes everything he's gonna say and it's gonna sound nice and do some damage... he will beat all the lesser competition hard. Now you got a stephano who has some premeditated things of course, but he mainly relies on listening to the opponent and flipping his lines, making them hit a lot harder. Rts is no different, the good players like idra have everything pre planned and make some minor adjustments in game here and there, but that's it. The absolute top like an mkp/stephano etc just go with the flow and are constantly adjusting to the situation and looking for chances (mistakes from the opponent, openings in the opponents game plan). Come off it, he will know scout timings, and build 'tells' for all races so he can react properly. He'll have reactions to everything he scouts thought out and worked out with his practice buddies. Yes, he'll decide what to do 'on the fly' in the same way MC does, but if you honestly believe he just 'goes with the flow' and makes shit up you're being naive. He stated the reason he lost to Polt at Assembly Winter previously was that it wasn't a build he knew how to deal with. Polt did the same thing every game and Stephano didn't have an answer because he hadn't practiced for it at all. So if I understand correctly you play SC2? and because Stephano doesn't agree with how you think and play he is obviously good enough to be on sotg. Cause he might talk about something that you disagree with? Your the 1% in this situation and who honestly likes the 1%. He is popular and a hot topic the boy wins everything he touches for the most part. He is the most successful Foreigner to date. Listen and maybe you will learn something because what he does works. That's my whole point. He's not talking about what he does at all. He's deflecting the question. It's pointless having him on the show because he's not interested in helping you understand what he does. Nony tells you things, destiny tells you things, QXC tells you things, stephano says 'oh you know, build stuff'. When stephano says that he has no trouble with anything in ZvP I don't believe him. I could be wrong, but I find it much more likely that he's not going to tell protoss players out there what he's having trouble with because he doesn't want to lose to protoss players. He's not interested in helping anyone who is struggling with PvZ, he's not even interested in helping people with ZvP. He's interested in Stephano winning games. Which is fine, that's what he does, but why would I want to hear him regularly not answer questions? I suggest you watch Live on 3 Stephano talks about how when he watches PvZ replays he honestly doesn't know what Protoss can do and that he feels they need to be buffed. He said that about zvt before too, then he started playing korean terrans. He didnt he sayd that all Korean Terran plays the same style.
That isn't what goswser said.
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Where did JP say he might do a show from his hotel room tonight?
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On March 22 2012 12:38 Dreadwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 12:01 Lyter wrote:On March 22 2012 11:47 darkscream wrote:On March 22 2012 08:53 caradoc wrote:On March 22 2012 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Blizzard has never disappointed with an expansion. HotS will be so much better.
But shouldn't we just focus on this article and WoL? HotS so far away.
Anyway, I would also love to hear Barrin on SotG. JP make it happen please. Hell, look at the new WoW expansion, I can't be alone in thinking it was a collective galaxy-wide WTF as that was unveiled. I quit the second I heard pretty much. Fuckin pandas, with 0 value to the actual story or consistancy of what WoW was about. WoW had no fucking asian bullshit. I was in a top 10 raid guild, I actually made IRL money off of the game... that expansion killed my passion. So yes, blizzard does have the potential to disappoint with expansions. Let's hope HOTS goes the opposite way - But I don't think what Barrin is suggesting should/could actually be implemented in WoL. It would force the pros to relearn everything, twice. Now is a time for discussion, experimentation and testing, hopefully some higher level players get involved though because right now all I see is TL forum rats with a few exceptions.. Nobody top tier has really caught wind of it from what I can tell. WoW had a story? Did you even play wc3? I loved the shit out of wc3 lore, and what blizzard did to the warcraft universe with wow made me want to smash my head into the wall until my brain leaked out onto my feet. They just made up random shit and created loopholes in their own lore for content purposes and killed off every damn interesting person in the lore. Draenei for example, they aren't blue, they aren't even damn goats and they especially didn't crash land a spaceship on azeroth. For the kind of game WoW is, it has AMAZING lore. Its not like they could see in the future and see they would have to stretch it to the point they had too add f.in panda has a race. I would hate the panda too if i was still playing, i actualy quit playing wow bfore burning crusade when they announced paladin and shaman for horde and aliance. It was stupid, they both should have been there for balance purpose from the start but to add them after was retarded. I came back a few month before lich king, it was fun. But anyway, creating lore for an open ended story, is... SO - DAMN - HARD. Most movie sequel are terrible, imagine doing that like 9 time, you say lore sucks? well shit, what game has better lore on their first expantion, added content, second expand, added content 3rd expand, added content, 4rth expantion, added content.. None. The amount of Lore from wc 3 series is so small compare to what was put in wow. creating smaller story with less scope is so much easier. Of course some things just dosent make sense but for balance/gamming purpose they are comprise made. i hate the idea of gnome DK, but meh, alright. I have faith for the expansion, they are not rushing it, thats VERY good, its unlikely that we are going to see it in store before the new year. Honestly the lore in the WoL wasnt on par with sc and bw, but its was ok and the campaign was really fun. sooo, hum this post has little relevance to sc but so BE IT.
The WoW lore may be as fantastic as it likes for the genre it is in, but it's still shit, and it still shat all over the WC lore before that.
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where is the vod of the SOTG Incontrol hosted? on JPs youtube the lastest is the one with stephano on
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On March 23 2012 05:29 Chriscras wrote:
Show tonight yes?
People travelling to MLG, really doubt there would be a show today.
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On March 23 2012 06:03 Senx wrote:People travelling to MLG, really doubt there would be a show today.
JP said he would be doing a SOTG from the hotel at MLG.
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On March 22 2012 12:38 Dreadwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2012 12:01 Lyter wrote:On March 22 2012 11:47 darkscream wrote:On March 22 2012 08:53 caradoc wrote:On March 22 2012 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Blizzard has never disappointed with an expansion. HotS will be so much better.
But shouldn't we just focus on this article and WoL? HotS so far away.
Anyway, I would also love to hear Barrin on SotG. JP make it happen please. Hell, look at the new WoW expansion, I can't be alone in thinking it was a collective galaxy-wide WTF as that was unveiled. I quit the second I heard pretty much. Fuckin pandas, with 0 value to the actual story or consistancy of what WoW was about. WoW had no fucking asian bullshit. I was in a top 10 raid guild, I actually made IRL money off of the game... that expansion killed my passion. So yes, blizzard does have the potential to disappoint with expansions. Let's hope HOTS goes the opposite way - But I don't think what Barrin is suggesting should/could actually be implemented in WoL. It would force the pros to relearn everything, twice. Now is a time for discussion, experimentation and testing, hopefully some higher level players get involved though because right now all I see is TL forum rats with a few exceptions.. Nobody top tier has really caught wind of it from what I can tell. WoW had a story? Did you even play wc3? I loved the shit out of wc3 lore, and what blizzard did to the warcraft universe with wow made me want to smash my head into the wall until my brain leaked out onto my feet. They just made up random shit and created loopholes in their own lore for content purposes and killed off every damn interesting person in the lore. Draenei for example, they aren't blue, they aren't even damn goats and they especially didn't crash land a spaceship on azeroth. For the kind of game WoW is, it has AMAZING lore. Its not like they could see in the future and see they would have to stretch it to the point they had too add f.in panda has a race. I would hate the panda too if i was still playing, i actualy quit playing wow bfore burning crusade when they announced paladin and shaman for horde and aliance. It was stupid, they both should have been there for balance purpose from the start but to add them after was retarded. I came back a few month before lich king, it was fun. But anyway, creating lore for an open ended story, is... SO - DAMN - HARD. Most movie sequel are terrible, imagine doing that like 9 time, you say lore sucks? well shit, what game has better lore on their first expantion, added content, second expand, added content 3rd expand, added content, 4rth expantion, added content.. None. The amount of Lore from wc 3 series is so small compare to what was put in wow. creating smaller story with less scope is so much easier. Of course some things just dosent make sense but for balance/gamming purpose they are comprise made. i hate the idea of gnome DK, but meh, alright. I have faith for the expansion, they are not rushing it, thats VERY good, its unlikely that we are going to see it in store before the new year. Honestly the lore in the WoL wasnt on par with sc and bw, but its was ok and the campaign was really fun. sooo, hum this post has little relevance to sc but so BE IT.
Hey now the Pandarians or whatever they are called have been in the game since WC3 don't hate on those.
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On March 23 2012 06:13 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 06:03 Senx wrote:On March 23 2012 05:29 Chriscras wrote:
Show tonight yes? People travelling to MLG, really doubt there would be a show today. JP said he would be doing a SOTG from the hotel at MLG.
Today though? I'd figure during sunday like the previous mlg sotgs.
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On March 23 2012 06:18 Senx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 06:13 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 23 2012 06:03 Senx wrote:On March 23 2012 05:29 Chriscras wrote:
Show tonight yes? People travelling to MLG, really doubt there would be a show today. JP said he would be doing a SOTG from the hotel at MLG. Today though? I'd figure during sunday like the previous mlg sotgs.
no cause he said it wont be on the mlg stream at all. just like an mlg preview show. not sure if it will actually happen, but thats what he said during the episode 65.
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Thursday show not happening. They won't do one from MLG at all because they'll be "tired" on F/S/S. No doubt people will be "travelling" next week and the show will skip another week.
They could at least have previewed the MLG pools last week. ITG managed to do it.
Large gaps are OK, plans falling apart constantly is what's frustrating (even though, yes, the show is free).
If they were still with MLG maybe it would be a higher priority for them? Or if they implemented that subscription thing?
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People seem to be doing their own thing. No @StateOfTheGame tonight. Sorry.
https://twitter.com/#!/itmeJP
Too bad. I wouldn't mind something informal. Wander around the MLG center or the hotel lobby with a microphone and chat with whoever you run into.
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What a joke. Really miss the time when MLG sponsored the show and they felt obliged to actually try to get their shit together. This is starting to look a lot like an Artosis project tbh.
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On March 23 2012 22:02 FunnyPicture wrote:
What a joke. Really miss the time when MLG sponsored the show and they felt obliged to actually try to get their shit together. This is starting to look a lot like an Artosis project tbh.
And the thing is that people confuse unprofessional and unorganized with indie.
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On March 23 2012 07:44 Soleron wrote:
Thursday show not happening. They won't do one from MLG at all because they'll be "tired" on F/S/S. No doubt people will be "travelling" next week and the show will skip another week.
They could at least have previewed the MLG pools last week. ITG managed to do it.
Large gaps are OK, plans falling apart constantly is what's frustrating (even though, yes, the show is free).
If they were still with MLG maybe it would be a higher priority for them? Or if they implemented that subscription thing?
If JP tells me where to pay, I will pay for a weekly, or bi-weekly show. Just tell me where to punch my information in.
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