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On February 13 2012 06:52 deadmau wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:50 Flanq wrote:On February 13 2012 06:49 deadmau wrote:
To follow up to his response, he thinks that it's okay because if you find the specific and unique rate and accuracy at which scroll-casting would be effective, it makes it hard on the user so he/she should be rewarded for figuring out the technicalities of making scroll-casting effective.
I'm sorry Qxc, I'm appalled, the notion that you are a pro-gamer is laughable with what you're saying about this bs.
No. Excuse me? Why just "no." He was trying to make it seem like because he had to figure out the technicalities in using scroll-casting effectively, he should be rewarded with being allowed to gain that significant and retarded advantage. So for that, I do believe he is an idiot.
It doesn't matter, the whole scroll thing is trash anyway. It doesn't work, but people that never tried it out won't know this..
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It takes 70% more snipes to kill a BL aswell as an Ultra now I think.
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Snipes to kill a brood lord went from 5 to 9, really not as much as they're making it out to be
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What's the range of the raven's HSM? Like if the zerg has proper infestor control is it even possible to get close enough to fire of the HSM? This is a question not a whine.
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On February 13 2012 06:47 Ben... wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:39 Chewbacca. wrote:On February 13 2012 06:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
theres alot of gamers on this episode but none of them are talking about ravens + hsm vs broodlords lol That's true. Morrow also used mass HSM vs a brood army and crushed it. I've seen that somewhere (I think a stream or GSL), and it was surprisingly good. They absolutely melt broodlords.
It's clear from Nestea vs MVP games from a few months ago in GSL semi-finals (the one with the Blizzcon finals) that mass Raven + HSM is already used frequently in mech TvZ.
In Game 4 of their series, Nestea attacked MVP's Raven + Thor army with Broodlords, and spread them as soon as he saw the Ravens.
Kind of following on from my point earlier, our percieved way the game works is often so far behind how it actually works in Korea, because when tactics are used in televised games, they are normally refined and are actually not original. They have been practiced repeatedly and then used. This means that actually, it's entirely possible that in practice it's standard to go mass Ravens with HSM, and there are hints towards that (Keen's games in small Korean tourneys, etc).
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On February 13 2012 06:54 dofz wrote:
What's the range of the raven's HSM? Like if the zerg has proper infestor control is it even possible to get close enough to fire of the HSM? This is a question not a whine.
HSM range is 6
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I would equate making mouse-scroll into left or right click with your mouse drivers with making macro scripts with your advanced keyboard drivers, neither of which should be allowed in tournaments.
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On February 13 2012 06:52 Jeffkeuh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:52 R!! wrote:
It takes too long for ravens to be usable, HSM costs 125 energy and fungal outranges hsm by far, I won't totally dismiss it, but I don't think it's feasible at all. It also takes long to get 15 broodlords.
lolol t's are just used to rolling armys with rax units
a t users response to ravens: "we actually need to tech to something? WAAAAAAA"
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Just make Snipe deal reduced damage to Massive.
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Summary: he doesn't like how it makes the unit more linear and gives it fewer roles?
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On February 13 2012 06:53 IMoperator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:52 deadmau wrote:On February 13 2012 06:50 Flanq wrote:On February 13 2012 06:49 deadmau wrote:
To follow up to his response, he thinks that it's okay because if you find the specific and unique rate and accuracy at which scroll-casting would be effective, it makes it hard on the user so he/she should be rewarded for figuring out the technicalities of making scroll-casting effective.
I'm sorry Qxc, I'm appalled, the notion that you are a pro-gamer is laughable with what you're saying about this bs.
No. Excuse me? Why just "no." He was trying to make it seem like because he had to figure out the technicalities in using scroll-casting effectively, he should be rewarded with being allowed to gain that significant and retarded advantage. So for that, I do believe he is an idiot. It doesn't matter, the whole scroll thing is trash anyway. It doesn't work, but people that never tried it out won't know this..
Well his implication that it is "fair to use" and silly that people disagree with gaining an unfair advantage through such 3rd-party means is laughable stance for a "pro-gamer" to take.
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QXC dropping sick knowledge. I agree allot.
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Phoenix!!!! Can't wait to see this in play.
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50, -10 to Massive. Blizz make it happen.
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On February 13 2012 06:53 Canas wrote:
Snipes to kill a brood lord went from 5 to 9, really not as much as they're making it out to be
Rofl, nine shots?
In what world of mathematics does that work.
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On February 13 2012 06:55 mTwTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 06:52 Jeffkeuh wrote:On February 13 2012 06:52 R!! wrote:
It takes too long for ravens to be usable, HSM costs 125 energy and fungal outranges hsm by far, I won't totally dismiss it, but I don't think it's feasible at all. It also takes long to get 15 broodlords. lolol t's are just used to rolling armys with rax units a t users response to ravens: "we actually need to tech to something? WAAAAAAA"
Yeah so silly of Terrans not to use Ravens, every other race used every tool they had from the start, just look at how long Warp Prism has been used effectively!
Do you think it's reasonable that you have to get Tech Labbed Starports, Energy Upgrade, HSM Upgrade and then still wait for even more energy to even USE the ability? It's really not strange that Terrans resent Ravens in their current state.
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Blizzard listen to this, really!
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