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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 12 2012 21:42 GMT
#40881
<3
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 12 2012 21:42 GMT
#40882
On February 13 2012 06:41 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 06:39 Chewbacca. wrote:
On February 13 2012 06:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
theres alot of gamers on this episode but none of them are talking about ravens + hsm vs broodlords lol


That's true. Morrow also used mass HSM vs a brood army and crushed it.


t's used to say ghosts were bad in general before they started using them and theyre doing the same thing with ravens right now aswell


Yeah I think once the ghost nerf is in affect terrans will start experimenting with Ravens. Would be surprised if they didn't.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
February 12 2012 21:44 GMT
#40883
Agree with catz on the scroll thing. Just binding shit to scroll and mouse 3 and 4 should be banned.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 21:45:55
February 12 2012 21:44 GMT
#40884
Qxc is a total idiot if he disagrees and shakes his head at the idea that Mouse-Scroll wheel is unreasonable....how can any brained objective person not think it takes away from true skill to use something like that?

I was actually shocked and appalled that he even questioned Catz with a "what's the big deal with that" type of response, which Qxc I considered a pro-gamer. Makes no sense for a pro to have a viewpoint like that.
Jeffkeuh
Profile Joined January 2012
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 21:46:55
February 12 2012 21:45 GMT
#40885
On February 13 2012 06:41 Logros wrote:
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On February 13 2012 06:38 iNcontroL wrote:
On February 13 2012 06:37 bovineblitz wrote:
Wtf, it's on right now?

Are they ever going to stick to a schedule?


We are still looking for the time/day that will be home. Sorry for this period of time.

Don´t apologize, lots of Europeans can watch it live for the first time :D.


Agreed, I like this time.

And the scroll click thing shouldn't be legal, why is this even a question..
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 12 2012 21:46 GMT
#40886
On February 13 2012 06:41 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 06:39 Chewbacca. wrote:
On February 13 2012 06:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
theres alot of gamers on this episode but none of them are talking about ravens + hsm vs broodlords lol


That's true. Morrow also used mass HSM vs a brood army and crushed it.


t's used to say ghosts were bad in general before they started using them and theyre doing the same thing with ravens right now aswell


Same with Protoss and Motherships.

I think that one of the biggest mistakes people make on forums when arguing their points is just dismissing a possibility. It's a massive generalisation, but it's obvious that the game is evolving and units people previously considered redundant are becoming more popular. One of the great problems with balancing by theorycraft is that the game is so complicated, and so changing all the time that this model of balance will only ever fit the game very roughly.
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 21:47:42
February 12 2012 21:46 GMT
#40887
that overlay + gifs is so distracting and ugly. "we be indy" ugghhh we get it JP and now please get a better overlay or just be really simple.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 12 2012 21:46 GMT
#40888
On February 13 2012 06:45 Jeffkeuh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 06:41 Logros wrote:
On February 13 2012 06:38 iNcontroL wrote:
On February 13 2012 06:37 bovineblitz wrote:
Wtf, it's on right now?

Are they ever going to stick to a schedule?


We are still looking for the time/day that will be home. Sorry for this period of time.

Don´t apologize, lots of Europeans can watch it live for the first time :D.


Agreed, I like this time, sucks half the cast isn't here though.

And the scroll click thing shouldn't be legal, why is this even a question..

the mouz driver IS a third party program, doesnt work withiut it, thou it shoulod be illegal
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
February 12 2012 21:47 GMT
#40889
On February 13 2012 06:39 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 06:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
theres alot of gamers on this episode but none of them are talking about ravens + hsm vs broodlords lol


That's true. Morrow also used mass HSM vs a brood army and crushed it.
I've seen that somewhere (I think a stream or GSL), and it was surprisingly good. They absolutely melt broodlords.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
February 12 2012 21:47 GMT
#40890
wtf, you just started almost 2 hours early???
A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
February 12 2012 21:48 GMT
#40891
On February 13 2012 06:46 storm44 wrote:
that overlay + gifs is so distracting and ugly. "we be indy" ugghhh we get it JP and now please get a better overlay or just be really simple.


have to quote that.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 21:48:58
February 12 2012 21:48 GMT
#40892
The scroll wheel thing is really bad, why are people getting so worried about it?
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 12 2012 21:49 GMT
#40893
On February 13 2012 06:48 CEPEHDREI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 06:46 storm44 wrote:
that overlay + gifs is so distracting and ugly. "we be indy" ugghhh we get it JP and now please get a better overlay or just be really simple.


have to quote that.

For its wrongness?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 12 2012 21:49 GMT
#40894
If scroll wheel was that good, pro would use it.
MorroW know about it since a YEAR and it's buggy enough to not use it.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
February 12 2012 21:49 GMT
#40895
On February 13 2012 06:41 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 06:39 Chewbacca. wrote:
On February 13 2012 06:37 mTwTT1 wrote:
theres alot of gamers on this episode but none of them are talking about ravens + hsm vs broodlords lol


That's true. Morrow also used mass HSM vs a brood army and crushed it.


t's used to say ghosts were bad in general before they started using them and theyre doing the same thing with ravens right now aswell


There we go, Incontrol saw your comment. ^_^
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 21:50:55
February 12 2012 21:49 GMT
#40896
To follow up to his (Qxc's) original response, he thinks that it's okay because if you find the specific and unique rate and accuracy at which scroll-casting would be effective, it makes it hard on the user so he/she should be rewarded for figuring out the technicalities of making scroll-casting effective.

I'm sorry Qxc, I'm appalled, the notion that you are a pro-gamer is laughable with what you're saying about this bs.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
February 12 2012 21:50 GMT
#40897
On February 13 2012 06:49 deadmau wrote:
To follow up to his response, he thinks that it's okay because if you find the specific and unique rate and accuracy at which scroll-casting would be effective, it makes it hard on the user so he/she should be rewarded for figuring out the technicalities of making scroll-casting effective.

I'm sorry Qxc, I'm appalled, the notion that you are a pro-gamer is laughable with what you're saying about this bs.

No.
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
February 12 2012 21:52 GMT
#40898
It takes too long for ravens to be usable, HSM costs 125 energy and fungal outranges hsm by far, I won't totally dismiss it, but I don't think it's feasible at all.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
February 12 2012 21:52 GMT
#40899
On February 13 2012 06:50 Flanq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 06:49 deadmau wrote:
To follow up to his response, he thinks that it's okay because if you find the specific and unique rate and accuracy at which scroll-casting would be effective, it makes it hard on the user so he/she should be rewarded for figuring out the technicalities of making scroll-casting effective.

I'm sorry Qxc, I'm appalled, the notion that you are a pro-gamer is laughable with what you're saying about this bs.

No.


Excuse me? Why just "no." He was trying to make it seem like because he had to figure out the technicalities in using scroll-casting effectively, he should be rewarded with being allowed to gain that significant and retarded advantage. So for that, I do believe he is an idiot.
Jeffkeuh
Profile Joined January 2012
10 Posts
February 12 2012 21:52 GMT
#40900
On February 13 2012 06:52 R!! wrote:
It takes too long for ravens to be usable, HSM costs 125 energy and fungal outranges hsm by far, I won't totally dismiss it, but I don't think it's feasible at all.

It also takes long to get 15 broodlords.
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