EPTwhat i have a hard time with is both of them doing it in a catfight. moew. *slap*. moew :3
invite tyler to live on three? no fluff right? <3
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leecH
Germany385 Posts
what i have a hard time with is both of them doing it in a catfight. moew. *slap*. moew :3 invite tyler to live on three? no fluff right? <3 | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:11 djWHEAT wrote: iNcontroL basically said exactly what you summed up last night during Kings of Tin. In fact, with the success of HuK I think it has been a major eye opener for everyone in that regards. I think his words were basically, "how many champions have you heard say they practice 3 hours a day?" Can't think of one. Yeah but teams can enforce minimum hours of practice time instead of selectively prohibiting activities done during free time. Even if EG wanted to enforce 60 hours a week of practice time, which would be a high but good number, there'd still be much more than 4 hours of free time to do a podcast. And it's a very very productive use of free time, considering SOTG's popularity and influence. But even so, it'd be perfectly understandable if Geoff had 30 hours of spare time a week and still (unfortunately) couldn't use 4 of them on SOTG. That'd be his call though, not his team's. | ||
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Nidoa
Canada239 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:41 Nidoa wrote: amazing how this thread gets heated discussions even when the show itself isn't rolling. Well it just shows how people care about SoTG.It's great. | ||
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Yiska
141 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:11 djWHEAT wrote: iNcontroL basically said exactly what you summed up last night during Kings of Tin. In fact, with the success of HuK I think it has been a major eye opener for everyone in that regards. I think his words were basically, "how many champions have you heard say they practice 3 hours a day?" Can't think of one. Sure smells like cotton candy in here. | ||
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CrossTheRiver
26 Posts
But when you openly declare that a business, team or entity is a joke, I think that should require some explanation. Not that you are right or wrong, but just leaving it there looks like it is precisely an insult and most people read that as "company X is a joke therefore they are bad or they shouldn't be taken serious" You're very popular in this community Tyler and people put very serious weight to the things you say. @scoots, gotta say man, as a person with no dog in this fight, you don't look very good coming in with your one liner quip. You're better off saying nothing, or if you feel you have to say something, asking Tyler to explain would go a lot further than "oh gee Tyler said we're a joke twice now" Good business sense and practices are always necessary and always relevant when everything you say is under a microscope and everything you do is forever. What you did scoots doesn't really show very good business sense. Hell you'd be better off saying that how EG handles its affairs is none of our business and you'd be right. @DJwheat, been following you on reddit and here, you tend to make the most well thought out responses and make the most sense. I know you are tied to EG so you do have a stake in the this but, that said, I really appreciate your points both here and reddit. | ||
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dpL
Sweden571 Posts
Seriously though, it sucks to see something like SotG be affected by a thing like this. Although I can understand EG I really don't like the dishonesty involved. Also, all this would be easier to tolerate if it weren't for the fact that SotG is infinitely superior to other shows that shall not be named. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
That'd be his call though, not his team's. Unless it IS his team's call. >.> /conspiracies | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
It's just the SOTG that he apparently doesn't have time for. So it's not a matter of time at all, it's a matter of him choosing where to spend his "community time" (that he does still have) on. | ||
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leecH
Germany385 Posts
did i miss something or did u miss that it in fact WAS his teams call? wtf im confused. someone help me? | ||
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Condor
Netherlands188 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Yeah but teams can enforce minimum hours of practice time instead of selectively prohibiting activities done during free time. Even if EG wanted to enforce 60 hours a week of practice time, which would be a high but good number, there'd still be much more than 4 hours of free time to do a podcast. And it's a very very productive use of free time, considering SOTG's popularity and influence. But even so, it'd be perfectly understandable if Geoff had 30 hours of spare time a week and still (unfortunately) couldn't use 4 of them on SOTG. That'd be his call though, not his team's. And even if it were his team's call, than the business decision makes no sense to me. How do you gain anything from ripping your guy from a popular show? How is that a smart business decision? It just seems shallow to assume that same face on a different show equals the same popularity. Shallow, and disrespectful to JP who did and does an amazing job with SOTG. Can't you have your guy on the show of "the competitors" representing you? Microsoft also makes Office for Mac OS X, even though they'd probably prefer everyone to move over to Windows. I'm really curious what iNcontrol actually wanted himself, did he want to stay on SOTG or not? He seemed to have a lot of fun there. | ||
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Ganjamaster
Argentina475 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:14 Liquid`Tyler wrote: To be honest, I have no idea how you really feel about it. I meant nothing more than that I'm amused by the way EG does business. Your reply makes it seem like I insulted EG and you're taking it in stride. I guess it could be insulting because EG isn't trying to be amusing but that'd be a very remote and thin insult. Firstly I want to say that I disliketeam EG, I think all their players with the exception of IdrA are mediocre, and im being generous here. I do appreciate the EGMC, which I think is awesome and they should continue with that although they should be more transparent (Sixjax fiasco) in the future, but since its the first edition its ok. That being said, I would take offense at the remark that the way I do business is "amusing". I think the words SirScoots is looking for when people make remarks about his organization are more along the lines of "upstanding", "respectable", "transparent", and more importantly, "successful". These are all qualities which I find lacking in the way EG members conduct themselves. I do agree with your opinion though that they way EG conducts its business is amusing, not to say laughable. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:47 leecH wrote: did i miss something or did u miss that it in fact WAS his teams call? wtf im confused. someone help me? Responding to Tyler's post saying him on SOTG is HIS call not his teams (the thing I quoted........) | ||
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Kollapse
United States125 Posts
I enjoyed and looked forward to SotG more than any show on television, I hope it can maintain the same level of awesome without InC. | ||
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leecH
Germany385 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:48 nvs. wrote: Responding to Tyler's post saying him on SOTG is HIS call not his teams (the thing I quoted........) but why would scoots say to him "its ok to be a guest" or something like that. makes no sense does it? or is it like a daddy role thing "ok you dont have the time but consider be a guest sometimes". aah i guess is stop thinking about it. not my cup of tea anyway i guess. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:50 leecH wrote: but why would scoots say to him "its ok to be a guest" or something like that. makes no sense does it? or is it like a daddy role thing "ok you dont have the time but consider be a guest sometimes". aah i guess is stop thinking about it. not my cup of tea anyway i guess. ok now I am confused. Moving right along... | ||
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Redlol
United States181 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:44 CrossTheRiver wrote: @DJwheat, been following you on reddit and here, you tend to make the most well thought out responses and make the most sense. I know you are tied to EG so you do have a stake in the this but, that said, I really appreciate your points both here and reddit. [–]djWHEAT 0 points 58 minutes ago It's too bad that people keep wanting to ignore the "business" side of things. Because people want it (eSports) to grow, yet don't want to deal with what needs to happen for it to properly reach those goals. +1 to you. Was a Reddit comment by DJ wheat Source(including what he was replying to and the context): http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/ib2nv/the_last_piece_of_evidence_re_sotg_eg/c22cidj I honestly am less of a fan of DJWheat's as a result. Commenting so callously on something that benefited him, I'm waiting for an explanation on how the transfer of EG players from SoTG to ITG helped ESports. Was EG going to lose SteelSeries as a sponsor if they didn't make this move? Did this move bring new sponsors into ESports? Did this move help the careers of anyone except DJWheat?(Whose career certainly didn't need the boost). If someone can explain to me why this move "needed to happen to properly reach those goals," I would appreciate it. edit: Added a better link to the source. | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:44 CrossTheRiver wrote: @Tyler, I've watched you on SOTG and I have heard you talk about your opinions with EG and I think that is fine. Saying you wouldn't want to do business with one entity or another is all good, doesn't require follow up. But when you openly declare that a business, team or entity is a joke, I think that should require some explanation. Not that you are right or wrong, but just leaving it there looks like it is precisely an insult and most people read that as "company X is a joke therefore they are bad or they shouldn't be taken serious" You're very popular in this community Tyler and people put very serious weight to the things you say. Explaining humor has been ridiculed in this community for years now. I'm absolutely not going to explain why I am amused. That is a joke, too. Taking humor seriously is a ridiculous exercise because of how counterproductive it is. People are free to react to humor however they want, but to then consciously think about it and respond to it without humor is a path going nowhere. If EG wants to laugh at me for laughing, that's awesome. I think they should think my statement is a joke. I won't be offended. Actually, I'd just laugh harder =]! | ||
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Fluffdaddy
United States19 Posts
On June 29 2011 03:39 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Yeah but teams can enforce minimum hours of practice time instead of selectively prohibiting activities done during free time. Even if EG wanted to enforce 60 hours a week of practice time, which would be a high but good number, there'd still be much more than 4 hours of free time to do a podcast. And it's a very very productive use of free time, considering SOTG's popularity and influence. But even so, it'd be perfectly understandable if Geoff had 30 hours of spare time a week and still (unfortunately) couldn't use 4 of them on SOTG. That'd be his call though, not his team's. I hate to cheerlead, but Tyler is right. It would be one thing if Geoff needed more time to practice and decided that he personally couldn't do SOTG anymore. And with the last episode, I was a little sad because a brotoss was leaving, but happy because maybe he would be practicing more often. But now it looks like this was a conflict of interest thing, which would be fine, but once again EG shows that it would rather play politics with the fans and feed them a lot of bullshit. It would have been a lot more honest to say, EG's sponsorships require us to do a sponsored show like ITG and being on SOTG would be a conflict of interest so we can no longer participate. As much as I rail on Destiny, he is absolutely on the mark about this thing. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
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