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I don't think there needs to be "major" changes to balance races, I mean if you significantly nerf or buff a race, soon there will be these same riots regarding balance, only just different races. Even very subtle small changes can have a big impact on the fairness of matchups imo.
I can't say too much about Zergs itself since I don't play them, I play Protoss in 1v1's and Terrans for arranged teams - in which, personally, I think just changing some of the costs of researches will help the balance a lot. For instance I find concussive shells and siege mode research to be way too cheap. Consider how much value it adds to the unit, I don't understand why they only cost 50/50 and 100/100 respectively. People always talk about how zealot speed and collosi thermal lance upgrade is absolutely necessary and thats why the 200/200 is justified. So why is there such a big difference in the research costs?
I believe that if concussive shells and siege mode costed more, it would already help a ton. Maurader rushes and how fast Terran can start abusing terrains with tanks are what I think a lot of Protosses and Zergs are struggling with. The small extra time bought from the increased costs should result in more timing windows to exploit, and so if for example a terran still wanted to get a quick tank containment, he'll have to get gas earlier which means less minerals for mass raxes and marines in the early-mid stages and so on.
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On August 15 2010 10:58 Tanatos wrote:Zerg is fine race if you are korean 
Why is this myth sticking?
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I know a fair bit about the back end operations of teams and...
1) no money is made on the performance of players. Players made money for themselves on their performance. Thus, Dimaga not winning enough, thus endangering his sponsorship is false.
2) sponsorship is a trade for mindshare, which winning can influence, but lesser players with great mindshare are invaluable. Thus, the notion that he's dropping his race to win more actually harms this (i.e. people will think less of him for it).
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On August 15 2010 10:58 Tanatos wrote:Zerg is fine race if you are korean
cool is playing almost 100% random on ladder, check is starting to play some protoss because "zerg cant win vs protoss" and every other korean zerg thinks its just as bullshit as the foreigners do.
korean zergs are barely any more represented in the highest ranks than foreigners, half the time the top 10 is 7 terrans 2 protosses and whichever 1 of 5 zergs happened to hit a win streak recently.
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On August 15 2010 11:03 HowardRoark wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2010 04:25 Pandain wrote:
Fadoodle this. It looks like there needs to be a Boxer for Zerg, a new Emperoer.
If these pros won't be cool kids and think of varying strats, then it looks like I'll need to fill in the gap.
Time to make Zerg strong again.
Pandain: The Zerg Bonjwa.
Wish me luck! Actually, when people started seeing how weak zerg was compared to protoss, there was still one guy that played zerg amazingly and fresh, and he could even beat top tier players, and his name was TheLittleOne. After the death stroke nerf of zerg in the latest beta patches he sadly moved to Terran like everyone else. Buy I am telling you, we were close to be getting a Boxer for sc2, but I guess Zerg was just too bad even for that to happen. Right now I am teaching my gf to 4gate or void ray rush zergs at diamond league, and so far, she have made it EVERY time with an avarage apm of 15. This. This. This. Blizzard, act now before its too damn late
This is hilarious. But then again, you're from sweden, the Korea of Europe
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agree with most here, Terran is NOT OP, dimaga is just a terrible zerg
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On August 15 2010 11:06 Tritonus wrote:Why is this myth sticking?
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
(Furthermore, I think Carthage must be destroyed)
If you repeat something just often enough, it will be common sense someday.
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On August 15 2010 11:11 sad.wish wrote:
agree with most here, Terran is NOT OP, dimaga is just a terrible zerg
Are you purposely being a troll?
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i don't know, but i am so frustred when i play vs terran and lose when i think i played 10 better of him, but probably we are not so good vs terran :p
but i will not switch Terran i will play Zerg and find another way for win ;D
Another think, the koreen zerg, i saw many games of best zerg koreen and real strong terran they lose with rape!
You need to be probably 100x better of the terran to beat him!
On the begining of the beta it was Zerg IMBA , on the middle of the beta was PROTOSS IMBA, and the final and now it is TERRAN IMBA! It's not because i'm zerg! i said before ZERG IS IMBA and played it
so dont say "you are saying that because you are Zerg!" because i said when Zerg was imba! "Zerg is imba" :p
Anyway its what i think, probably im wrong, i will pracctice myself to beat them!! :p
Good Luck Zerg Players!
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On August 15 2010 11:11 sad.wish wrote:
agree with most here, Terran is NOT OP, dimaga is just a terrible zerg
Best. Post. Ever.
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People are acting like children. So what, he can switch to whatever he wants to. If they nerf T and buff Z, he can switch again. Or if they buff P, he can switch to that too.
Just because he's taking advantage of the game's imbalances (which obviously the developers are aware of), doesn't mean he's a bad player. On the contrary, that makes him a good player. Everyone has a choice and he chooses to win as much as he can. Good players win.
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ppl shud try play zerg and they will understand, instead of the zerg to play Terrans..
also, IMO, there's no room for improvement for zergs at high lvl since it boils down to the "OP" of T that they experienced..
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It would suck if dimaga switched, but i cant say i havent contemplated the same. Will wait for the first balance patch before i switch though. If situation is just as bad after that, bye bye hardmode.
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Dimaga is one of the most skilled foreigners, period. All of you saying he isn't that good or "just has to explore the tech tree some more" have no idea what you are talking about.
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hmmm... maybe they shouldn't have cut the beta short?
maybe they nerf too much or not enough or cause imbas all over the place in other matchups
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On August 15 2010 11:31 mikado wrote:
People are acting like children. So what, he can switch to whatever he wants to. If they nerf T and buff Z, he can switch again. Or if they buff P, he can switch to that too.
Just because he's taking advantage of the game's imbalances (which obviously the developers are aware of), doesn't mean he's a bad player. On the contrary, that makes him a good player. Everyone has a choice and he chooses to win as much as he can. Good players win.
Race loyalty is for LIFE.
If he switches to Terran while Zerg is at a disadvantage he will forever be banished from the Zerg Fraternity of the Swarm.
He will never be allowed to play Zerg again.
This isn't something trivial like a religion, political party, citizenship or gender that one can simply change if they choose, this is Starcraft, this is REAL.
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Ah well, I stuck with Terran when they were UP.
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If anyone knows how Blizzard works, its pretty obvious Terran would be overpowered in a Terran themed game. They seem to have a hard time not favoring Terran because of how much more then worked on them for Wings of Liberty. I have a feeling Heart of the swarm will make Zerg overpowered, and Legacy of the Void will make Protoss overpowered... Blizzard has done this a lot in the past. They also tend to overcompensate when there is a balance issue, and I'd bet Terran falls from grace pretty quickly.
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Its not that he cannot win - he feels that he has to spend a LOT more effort into concentrating vs a pro-level terran who just woke up in the morning.
How many of you here are terran players claiming terran is not OPed yet you enjoy seeing how 6 tanks blow up 1000 hydras+lings? Or enjoy seeing your 5 marauders murder countless roaches? Abused cliffs much in LT, Kulas, or DO?
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