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Jinro there is an easy way for you to test this for yourself.
Set the windows slider to 6/11, and make sure acceleration/enhanced pointer is NOT on.
If you have mousedrivers installed (which the really hardcore crowd advices against), make sure the OS settings are used (setpoint often have a checkbox for this).
Next goto this link and download the windows 7 mouse fix package, dont install anything but just unzip it and double click the mouserecorder file, it wont install anything on your PC but rather open a little window where you can see if you get 1:1 mousemovement. Black background means you do, red or green, you do not (Note: there will be some reds and greens once you start moving the mouse really fast, but that's a windows/mouserec problem and doesn't mean you don't have 1:1).
Now boot up SC2 and move your mouse around a little, next al+tab out and see the background color in mouserecorder, if it's black whatever sens you have in SC2 is fine, if not you need to adjust it.
I haven't tested this myself, please let me know which SC2 sensitivity you end up with :-)
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Just count yourself lucky you don't have to deal with the SC2's interaction with the horrendously broken (for games at least) mouse acceleration on Mac.
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so if i have my windows mouse settings set to 6/11 and sc2 settings set to say 70% im not loosing precision right ?
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yes then you are loosing precision Avokodo, you need SC2 sens set to 50% and only change your mouse DPI for increased/decreased sens.
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On August 18 2010 03:56 Avokodo wrote:
so if i have my windows mouse settings set to 6/11 and sc2 settings set to say 70% im not loosing precision right ?
The whole point with ops thread was to say that if you change your ingame sens you change windows sens.
And changing windows sens above 6/11 = terrible terrible precision.
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thanks for the wonderful tip
i never knew this. This must be wuhy i got owned in cs all those years
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O.K. Tested it out. 50% sensitivity ingame give a 1:1 pixel ratio.
This is tested with:
- basic logitech M100 mouse (send my razer copperhead back because of clicking malfunctioning).
- no mouse drivers installed.
- markc mousefix for windows 7.
- mouse speed in windows @ 6/11
Tested and confirmed with the Mouse Movement recorder in the MarkC mousefix.rar package
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just tested
MX Revolution (i know, not a good gaming mouse)
setting the windows mouse settings or setpoint on something other than 6/11 doesn't give me red or green (only when moving really fast or going off screen), even though I'm clearly moving 4-6 pixels at a time. I guess it doesn't work that way.
Setting SC2 on something far from 50% does give me red colors. (>55%).
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What settings should I use in Razer drivers for 1:1 pixel accuracy? Changing the sensitivity seems to do the same thing as changing Windows mouse pointer speed, but the Windows mouse pointer speed doesn't change, and it doesn't show any change in advanced settings. Master windows control in advanced settings is the same thing as Windows mouse pointer speed.
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Aha, I remember this from my days of playing CS.
On August 08 2010 01:34 BigT wrote:
Question, if the higher you have your mouse sensitivity set in your control panel is worse (i.e. 11/11 bad, 6/11 good), then why wouldn't you just set the mouse sensitivity to 1/11 and only adjust your mouse's DPI???
1/11 and 11/11 are both worse than 6/11.
At 11/11, Windows 'adds' mouse inputs (skip pixels) to make your cursor move faster.
At 1/11, Windows throws away mouse inputs every X mouse movements to make your cursor move slower.
6/11 is the only setting where the ratio is 1 to 1.
Increasing your DPI but decreasing your Windows sensitivity reduces your mouse accuracy, as does lowering DPI but increasing Windows sens (really bad idea). Keep the Windows setting at 6/11 and adjust DPI if you want it to be faster or slower.
Negative acceleration caused by high DPI shouldn't be an issue at all for SC2 since you're not throwing your mouse around anyways.
Also, mouse accel is bad (guess it doesn't matter much in RTS, but still...)
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thank god starcraft does not have units of less than one pixel display size!
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That's why I have a G9 mouse, 6 DPI settings make everything amazing.
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O.o I use 100% in-game speed, 11/11 mouse sensitivity with acceleration, and I'm not having any issues with it.
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On August 18 2010 01:59 Yukidasu wrote:
Just count yourself lucky you don't have to deal with the SC2's interaction with the horrendously broken (for games at least) mouse acceleration on Mac.
Agreed, Mac also seems to have a lag when you use a USB mouse (I've tried it with a mx518). Anyone know how to make your mouse crisp/no accel for Mac? I found a program called "Mouse Acceleration" that seems to take off mouse accel, but the mouse still seems very laggy in game. Also, the lift-off distance seems to be increased on Macs (that is - when I pick up my mouse, it still tracks the movement, where lifting the same height on my PC wouldn't).
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On August 19 2010 04:38 Chronopolis wrote:
O.o I use 100% in-game speed, 11/11 mouse sensitivity with acceleration, and I'm not having any issues with it.
The real question is this: if you put the windows and SC2 sens sliders at 6/11 and 50% respectively, turn off enhanced pointer precision and increase mouse DPI to get the same curser speed, would you be better off (after getting used to it for a week or so) ?
The answer is most likely yes.
It's kinda like people saying this or that mouse is the greatest, having only tried two different mice ever.
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I was wondering about this. Thanks for the info.
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i've had on max for awhile now, few years, with the same MX510 mouse aswell, when I tried what you said I couldnt even bear the slowness in windows.. didnt even try it in game.. lol..
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On August 19 2010 06:42 SwaY- wrote:
i've had on max for awhile now, few years, with the same MX510 mouse aswell, when I tried what you said I couldnt even bear the slowness in windows.. didnt even try it in game.. lol..
Your mouse is insufficient for SC2 then, you should be able to crank up the DPI until u get a satisfying speed in-game. If you have to rely on setting the windows/SC2 slider above 6/11 or 50% and enhanced precision on, then it's time to get a new mouse.
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On August 19 2010 03:46 jw232 wrote:
What settings should I use in Razer drivers for 1:1 pixel accuracy? Changing the sensitivity seems to do the same thing as changing Windows mouse pointer speed, but the Windows mouse pointer speed doesn't change, and it doesn't show any change in advanced settings. Master windows control in advanced settings is the same thing as Windows mouse pointer speed.
according to that mouse movement recorder tool the ratio is always 1:1 .. also it doesn't create these stairway-like structures in pbrush when u mess with the sensitivity from my point of view
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On August 19 2010 05:14 sycknesS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2010 01:59 Yukidasu wrote:
Just count yourself lucky you don't have to deal with the SC2's interaction with the horrendously broken (for games at least) mouse acceleration on Mac. Agreed, Mac also seems to have a lag when you use a USB mouse (I've tried it with a mx518). Anyone know how to make your mouse crisp/no accel for Mac? I found a program called "Mouse Acceleration" that seems to take off mouse accel, but the mouse still seems very laggy in game. Also, the lift-off distance seems to be increased on Macs (that is - when I pick up my mouse, it still tracks the movement, where lifting the same height on my PC wouldn't).
I use a program called ControllerMate to change the acceleration on my mac. It has a graph that you can mess around with that changes the acceleration, it's really great.
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