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GagnarTheUnruly
Profile Joined July 2010
United States655 Posts
October 19 2010 23:07 GMT
#201
On October 20 2010 05:57 intergalactic wrote:
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On October 20 2010 04:08 mOnion wrote:
On October 19 2010 01:37 stafu wrote:
On October 19 2010 01:34 mOnion wrote:
how do I change my mouse DPI???

Depends on if your mouse has adjustable DPI. If it does, it'll either be a hardware switch on the mouse itself or done via mouse drivers. What mouse do you have?


Deathadder 1800 dpi, I tried checking the drivers but I didn't see anywhere to change it X_x

edit: just googled and apparently you can't with the stock drivers, is there another way?


I also have the Deathadder with Razer drivers ( downloaded at www.razersupport.com ), and as you can see with the screenshot I provided, you can very easily switch dpi.

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He probably has the 3G and not the 3.5G like yours, although I *think* the 3G can go to 800 on the Deathadder...
leetSmithy
Profile Joined October 2010
2 Posts
October 27 2010 19:46 GMT
#202
I have a DeathAdder 3500. My screen resolution is 1920 x 1200.
What settings should I use in SC, Razer software ? I'm so confused (((
dave333
Profile Joined August 2010
United States915 Posts
October 27 2010 20:30 GMT
#203
Does this stuff make any difference for a mid diamond player? I don't even know what I use...my pointer speed is right in the middle, I use a presumably crappy wireless mouse, and yeah.

Would upgrading get me better results at all? 1600 diamond.
Moody
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States750 Posts
October 27 2010 20:48 GMT
#204
This is a cool thread full of information I had no idea about, but, I don't think that it matters if you click a millimeter (or less) off of where you were aiming for because your mouse skipped ONE freakin' pixel. If that ever costs you a game, then you didn't deserve to win anyways.

P.S. I'm at work and just cleaned the dust balls out of my mouse. haha
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
October 27 2010 20:55 GMT
#205
On October 28 2010 05:30 dave333 wrote:
Does this stuff make any difference for a mid diamond player? I don't even know what I use...my pointer speed is right in the middle, I use a presumably crappy wireless mouse, and yeah.

Would upgrading get me better results at all? 1600 diamond.

If you don't feel your mouse is holding you back somehow, it's not gonna make any difference...
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Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
December 17 2010 17:21 GMT
#206
Oh man, this thread was absurdly useful for me! I had no idea that the Windows sensativity played that big a role. My crap was set at 10/11 for some reason, notched it down to 7 and it feels much better... No more back and forth trying to click on small things.
Next step- finding a mouse that actually fits my hand. /wrists
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XQlusive
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands58 Posts
January 25 2011 07:06 GMT
#207
^my settings is deathadder (1800dpi version) windows slider on 6/11 use 1800 dpi and middle in sc2 50% and i use Markc mousefix to eliminate to left overs from mouse acceleration and killed all mouse thresholds in regedit con mouse options because thats old accel for me and windows 7 dont use it anymore

here Markc fix http://razerblueprints.net/index.php/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,99/topic,8672.0/

for excatly 1-1 pixel precise if you have 6/11 windows slider otherwise there is in the same rar file a fix builder to get 1 to 1 pixel precise for every windows slider GL and see you un the battleground
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 07:23:40
January 25 2011 07:21 GMT
#208
forgive me if im mistaken but isnt 51% in sc2 the exact match for windows default 6?
I remember a very extensive thread on this a while back here lemme link it and il edit this post.

EDIT: heres the link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165625
I use a razer abyssus at 1k hertz and 1800 dpi. I love the mouse, its awesome for sc2 mainly due to the nice shape and small super lightweight design. ohh yeah..
Lythox
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands161 Posts
January 25 2011 15:43 GMT
#209
I've been reading on the topic of mouse speed settings a little and I see there are people using 3200 dpi mouses, meaning with a full hd screen it would take a little more than half an inch only to cross the entire screen.. Isn't it terrible to play like this?
SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
January 25 2011 18:27 GMT
#210
On January 26 2011 00:43 Lythox wrote:
I've been reading on the topic of mouse speed settings a little and I see there are people using 3200 dpi mouses, meaning with a full hd screen it would take a little more than half an inch only to cross the entire screen.. Isn't it terrible to play like this?

thats too high for me persnally but if you used to it then its perfecly fine. If it were an fps itd be bad but if your moused + settings allow you to do that without a loss of precision then its all good.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
February 17 2011 15:54 GMT
#211
On October 14 2010 13:19 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
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What useful information! Great find. I found I had my settings all messed up and didn't even realize it. Sensitivity through my Razer driver was too low, and windows and SC2 were too high. It meant I was skipping pixels big time. I have some info that may be useful for Razer mouse users.

My mouse: Diamondback 3G, 1800 dpi

Optimal windows performance: 6/11 Windows, set Razer software to whatever (I have mine at 5.0 in Windows)

SC2: Reduce sensitivity to 50%, use Razer driver to increase sensitivity (I set mine at 7.5 or so for SC2). If you increase sens. in SC2, you will start to skip pixels. The diamondback 3G has on-the-fly sens. adjustment, which works for me in SC2, although I can't see the onscreen indicator.

An easy way to test if you're skipping is to place your cursor near the edge of a letter or something with a defined edge. If you are skipping, miniscule mouse movements will fail to read momentarily, and will then cause your cursor to jump several pixels, meaning there are some pixels you can't hit! If you aren't skipping, you will be able to see that small mouse movements move your cursor one pixel at a time. This is pretty easy to notice, and you don't need to alt-tab into paint.

So to recap I've got my mouse at:

Microsoft 6/11
Razer 7.5
SC2 50%

and I'm not skipping. Razer sensitivity adjustment won't cause skipping even at max (10.0) so it's safe to use!


my setting is:
Microsoft 6/11
Razer Deatadder 10/10 with 900DPI + 500Pollirate
SC2 54%

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Krasso
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark74 Posts
April 17 2011 11:46 GMT
#212
wait, so having 6/11 with highest DPI on my mouse is better than (my previous) 11/11 with the lowest DPI?

Sorry if this bump annoys anyone, but i feel like my question is quite relevant.
I could aim, but with this thing, i dont have to
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 19:51:13
May 02 2011 19:50 GMT
#213
On April 17 2011 20:46 Krasso wrote:
wait, so having 6/11 with highest DPI on my mouse is better than (my previous) 11/11 with the lowest DPI?

Sorry if this bump annoys anyone, but i feel like my question is quite relevant.


Why don't you play around in paint a little and tell us what you find out about precision?
Edit: forgot it's may already -.-
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
May 03 2011 07:09 GMT
#214
On April 17 2011 20:46 Krasso wrote:
wait, so having 6/11 with highest DPI on my mouse is better than (my previous) 11/11 with the lowest DPI?

Sorry if this bump annoys anyone, but i feel like my question is quite relevant.

Yes, it's much better. 11/11 with low DPI causes a lot of pixel skipping. Try drawing some smooth shapes in paint on each setting and you'll visually see the difference. In a nutshell, the smallest movement the mouse recognises on a hardware level (DPI) will move a few pixels instead of 1.
zpnq
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 06:00:08
May 04 2011 05:28 GMT
#215
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but there is a setting in the menus of sc2 that by pass's the windows mouse settings.

Reduce mouse lag - oddly found in the graphics interface not the controls one.

i took this post from an old thread.


On December 08 2010 06:49 fdsdfg wrote:
'Reduce mouse delay' will read the hardware input of the mouse rather than the Windows API.

Since it cannot disable window's reading of the hardware input (only lock the pointer), this means the data is being read twice - by windows and by sc2.

Now, instead of SC2 asking windows 'what's my x-y coordinates?' it has to have a hook into the mouse driver to read the raw input, interpret that into relative movements, and finally into x-y coordinates.

Pro - not waiting on Windows API / polling rate
Con - extra overhead


this is the thread : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141067

Basicly it means the windows slider has no effect and you can adjust the in game setting with little to no adverse effects.

RAW INPUT>*

EDIT : using this setting overcomes all the issues in this thread
HOTcarl
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
October 03 2011 14:20 GMT
#216
I seen this thread and have noticed that many people of asked the same thing im about to ask, but with no answer. So if anyone has an idea of what to do i'd really appreciate some help

I have a regular Logitech mouse i got at target (Logitech m505 laser mouse) I JUST set my windows settings to 6/11 and my in-game to 50% after seeing this thread. Only problem now is my mouse is extremely slow. Ive read that to counter this effect you must increase your DPI. Well the thing is i have Setpoint installed and I cant figure out where/how to adjust my mouses DPI. Is my logitech not capable of that? Or do i just adjust my pointer speed and/or horizantal scrolling speed in SetPoint instead?

sorry to bump this thread I cant find the answer anywhere XD
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Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 14:27:24
October 03 2011 14:24 GMT
#217
I use 1800 DPI on 1600x900 screen resolution. If I was to use 1920x1080 how much difference would the sensitivity feel? Would I have to increase the DPI? Also, is there a program that gives you the right ratio the switch it to feel the same sensitivity?
Thanks!
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HOTcarl
Profile Joined August 2010
United States102 Posts
October 03 2011 14:28 GMT
#218
Wrong thread bro... Thats suppose to be in the DPI thread
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Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 14:39:55
October 03 2011 14:39 GMT
#219
On October 03 2011 23:28 HOTcarl wrote:
Wrong thread bro... Thats suppose to be in the DPI thread

This whole thread is filled with DPI talk and all types of sensitivity talk bro... Please stop back seat modding.
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renox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States48 Posts
October 03 2011 14:52 GMT
#220
On October 03 2011 23:20 HOTcarl wrote:
I seen this thread and have noticed that many people of asked the same thing im about to ask, but with no answer. So if anyone has an idea of what to do i'd really appreciate some help

I have a regular Logitech mouse i got at target (Logitech m505 laser mouse) I JUST set my windows settings to 6/11 and my in-game to 50% after seeing this thread. Only problem now is my mouse is extremely slow. Ive read that to counter this effect you must increase your DPI. Well the thing is i have Setpoint installed and I cant figure out where/how to adjust my mouses DPI. Is my logitech not capable of that? Or do i just adjust my pointer speed and/or horizantal scrolling speed in SetPoint instead?

sorry to bump this thread I cant find the answer anywhere XD

I only did some research but no where did I read that your mouse has the option to change DPI, that feature usually comes with "gaming" mice, correct me if I'm wrong though. It's been a while since I've used a logitech mouse but, you should be able to just increase mouse sensitivity in setpoint, just make sure it doesnt change windows and leave sc2 at default.


On October 03 2011 23:24 Beardedclam wrote:
I use 1800 DPI on 1600x900 screen resolution. If I was to use 1920x1080 how much difference would the sensitivity feel? Would I have to increase the DPI? Also, is there a program that gives you the right ratio the switch it to feel the same sensitivity?
Thanks!


If you don't increase the DPI it will feel slower, however you don't really "need" more DPI. It would help to know what mouse you use though, since you should be able to just max out your DPI and adjust your sensitivity in your drivers.
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