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green.at
Austria1459 Posts
On August 07 2010 22:09 Liquid`Jinro wrote: o_O I've changed my mouse sensitivty both in Setpoint AND in game. Am I just overriding the first when I change the second or something? basically yes (not 100% sure though  )the best thing you can do is set the windows mouse thingy exactly halfway and use your mouse to get the speed you want. | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
On August 08 2010 00:46 Bair wrote: So then...anyone want to reccomend a decent mouse? Something besides the $.50 mouse they give out with crappy new computers? Unfortunately the only mice with >400 dpi that don't have at least some angle snapping/prediction are some Razer mice (DA I believe has a firmware update to get rid of prediction) and SteelSeries mice with FreeMove (e.g. Xai, but unfortunately not Kinzu). In general I would steer clear of laser mice and stick with optical though. Perhaps it's not a big issue for RTS games but lift-off distance with laser mice is still quite bad. I haven't checked out the Zowie gear yet but apparently they use the same sensors as Logitech MX518 so they will have anglesnapping. In short, there's no *perfect* mouse yet. I can only assume it's a ploy by gaming hardware companies to be able to get people to buy rubbish and then slowly upgrade it with each iteration. Whatever you do, steer clear of Logitech Mini Optical — just because progamers use it doesn't mean it's good, especially for StarCraft 2, where you'll no longer be using 640x480. I have two of them and the sensor is just absolutely terrible. Pity though, because the shell is quite nice. Anyway, some decent options (though they either have anglesnapping or lower DPI): MS 1.1 or 3.0 (400-450 DPI) SteelSeries Kinzu (or Xai, but it's slightly larger; Kinzu is more suited to RTS) - 1800 DPI (Xai 3200) Razer DA (1800 DPI I think? The older, better optical sensor anyway) Razer Salmosa (Asian edition is smaller which is good for RTS — you can probably find one on eBay) Razer Krait (haven't used this though) | ||
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Latham
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
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professorjoak
318 Posts
[Windows setting] [Pixels windows moves for every 1 pixel mouse reports] 1 1/32 2 1/16 3 1/4 4 1/2 5 3/4 6 1 7 1.5 8 2 9 2.5 10 3 11 3.5 "Enhance pointer precision" is acceleration, so I turn it off. The fact that liftoff distance for laser mice is bad hasn't affected my gaming, but it's annoying for the times when I feel like slouching in my chair and realize that I can't use my knee as a mousing surface for my G5 the way I could my old Microsoft Intellimouse. On August 07 2010 23:31 floor exercise wrote: But that leaves me this question: at 2000dpi and halfway speed, my mouse is way too slow at 1920*1200, so is there a way to speed it up without losing accuracy? If you are using the full 2000dpi in advanced settings, it means you should cover your monitor horizontally by moving the mouse only an inch, and only .6 inches for vertical traversal. Is that really too slow? | ||
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BigT
United States304 Posts
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SkyTheUnknown
Germany2065 Posts
Furthermore a clarification: 6/11 in Windows, 50% in SC2 and then cranking up the DPI in order to get a higher mouse speed? Without a higher DPI setting the mouse will be WAY to slow for a RTS game, so these recommendations should only be considered when you have a modern mouse. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On August 08 2010 01:24 professorjoak wrote: If you are using the full 2000dpi in advanced settings, it means you should cover your monitor horizontally by moving the mouse only an inch, and only .6 inches for vertical traversal. Is that really too slow? For sc2, yes. | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
It really isn't, it just might take you a couple days to get used to, trust me  Lots of progamers use much lower sensitivity than you might think. For example watch NaDa play in this video here. You'll notice he lifts the mouse quite often — a consequence (although completely unnoticeable once you're used to your sensitivity) of a lower sensitivity. | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
On August 08 2010 01:34 BigT wrote: Question, if the higher you have your mouse sensitivity set in your control panel is worse (i.e. 11/11 bad, 6/11 good), then why wouldn't you just set the mouse sensitivity to 1/11 and only adjust your mouse's DPI??? You can do this. Some mice have issues with ridiculously high DPI though (such as negative acceleration), so it's safer to stick with 6/11 and use the lowest comfortable DPI. | ||
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Waltchelg
United States66 Posts
You do not experience pixel skipping until you're over 8/11 in windows and you also have issues at 1/11 and 2/11. I agree that the in-game slider is fucking retarded and should be changed to a system more like QL/CS as someone else mentioned. for the record I play at 1800 DPI 6/11 in SC2 and 1800 3/11 2.8/3.2 sens for CS/QL | ||
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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Brammaha
United States17 Posts
Plant your hand on your mouse pad. Start making small circles such that your hand (or the base of your hand) won't move left, right, up, or down. Now, I'm at work right now so my mouse probably isn't that reliable but after a while I've noticed that my pointer on my screen goes shift left. The shift is rather gradual but when I'm playing a game I don't want to have to lift my mouse up. I've only tested this at 6/11 sensitivity. The guide says it becomes more exaggerated the lower you go. Just something to think about. P.S. If you really want me to find the guide I'll look for it. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
Anyways, how those then blizzard change the sensitivity for the middle mouse button. I have higher sensitivity when pressing middle mouse button in SC2 in order to move the screen than I have on my overall mouse sensitivity for select units. | ||
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Jackafur
United States116 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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Jackafur
United States116 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
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Nayas
Canada33 Posts
I will try this tonight and maybe adjust the speed with the razer driver instead. Will see! | ||
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Daewon
127 Posts
Read these two posts: http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/173255-cs-s-mouse-optimization-guide.html http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1846538 The first one is a long read, but very informative. The second is how to get rid of that last bit of mouse acceleration that sometimes gets forced on by games, even when turned off in windows (acceleration = enhanced pointer precision). As for OP, I tried turning my ingame sensitivity way up like 100%, tabbed out to find my windows sensitivity on the usual 6/11?!?! Am I doing something wrong here? do I need to reboot first or what? As far as I can see the two sliders don't have anything in common. | ||
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